You brought 'internet message boards' and then made sweeping generalizations. And that's all you have here which is quite sad.You're the one who brought up LG.net, then when I mentioned a bunch of others where the same opinion is shared, you all of a sudden were talking about the city of LA, the citizens of which you know all of.
You're probably a complete shut-in, aren't you?
the thing is pau is much better when hes playing odom. he gets more room to operate when odoms there. bynum gets less touches with pau, and is limited to rebounding and defense something he is getting better at but not consistent enough. Bynum's either going to have to be the main big in the lineup and the focal point of the post or on the bench.
Or the Lakers and Phil Jackson can just keep doing what they were doing. Which is play the two of the three in crunch that are having the best game.
but you gotta admit pau does suck when bynum's in there with him.
Bynum's +/- is 4 or 5 points below Gasol and Odom..the Lakers are clearly better when a Gasol/Odom frontcourt is together for a longer period of time, for obvious reasons..
Bynum's a good player, but he has some severe flaws that make it logical to bring him off the bench where he can get all the shots he wants for a long period of time..
The Lakers comfortably winning almost every game he doesn't play for 2 seasons proves he isn't a vital cog in the starting unit. So does him getting benched in the PO's last year and sitting down with fouls 10 seconds into every game he did start.What does the Lakers winning a couple meaningless regular season games last season have to do anything with Bynum coming off the bench? You do realize I was using your re ed logic, right?
Inability to co-exist?
The team plays better with Odom on the court instead of Bynum. Because he co-exists with Gasol better than Bynum does. Is this really that much of a mystery?
Bynum's not a blackhole now because he shoots high %. As a goddamn Center. You are the king of inane unrelated connections.1) Phil Jackson > you
2)
3) So now you're calling Phil Jackson blind and brainless.
Like I said, keep digging that grave.
No he doesn't. And you obviously don't watch basketball games if you actually believe that. Let's look at some recent examples of Gasol 'sucking' with Bynum in the lineup:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...003120PHO.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...003150GSW.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...003160SAC.html
Oh my gosh! Pau sucks with Bynum.
Where else do masses of Laker fans congregate to talk? Are you having Laker pow-wow's on Rodeo Drive to ask everyone in LA their opinions?
You do realize you're ON an internet message board right now right, at 11pm?
The team plays better when Odom plays well. You can't rely on Lamar Odom the starter. This is proven. And it ultimately depends on the matchup. It's immaterial who starts the game.The team plays better with Odom on the court instead of Bynum. Because he co-exists with Gasol better than Bynum does. Is this really that much of a mystery?
You just keep owning yourself over and over. You're making this too easy for me.Bynum's not a blackhole now because he shoots high %. As a goddamn Center. You are the king of inane unrelated connections.
Yes? And you don't see me basing my opinion based on made up internet message board consensuses.You do realize you're ON an internet message board right now right, at 11pm?
By what?
Odom as a starter has played significantly better than Bynum as a starter, with respect to their entire careers. Odom as a bench player has done the same. He's been a better player for the Lakers no matter what his minutes were, or where he started, with the exception of a 3 month stretch to start the 08 season after which Bynum has NEVER been the same.
It is material who starts the game because we hamstring ourselves from the start, offensively and defensively. If we started games better we might not have so many close calls.
Only a ing re thinks a center shooting a high % means he is not a blackhole.You just keep owning yourself over and over. You're making this too easy for me.
I can't tell if you're being purposely dense or if you really are this ing stupid.
LOL 21 Blessings' arguments are ing ridiculous..
No, just made up LA consenses from your Rodeo Drive pow-wows.
Most of which probably post on the same MB's that want Odom to start. But they're on the internet, they're not real people...so their opinions don't count.
*looks at 21_blessings*
Oh, the irony. Its almost too much.
Bynum is putting up more efficient numbers than Odom the starter this season. Lamar Odom the reserve has been averaging more efficient numbers than Lamar Odom the starter this season.
Again, you are making this way too easy.
Andrew Bynum was the second option on a Lakers team that was 1st seed in the West in 2008. Andrew Bynum was the second option on a Lakers team that was first in the West without Gasol in 2009.
Bynum has been playing fantastically lately. And is easily playing at the level he was in 08. We saw that when he completely raped Chris Bosh on both ends of the floor the other week.
"We"? Oh yeah I forgot you're on the Lakers coaching staff just biding your time for that blind, brainless Phil Jackson to retire.
Calling a player with a .60 TS%, 20 PER a blackhole has to be one of the dumbest things you could possibly try to argue.
So you really are this ing stupid.
I'll have to ask my buddies at the Rodeo laker fan meeting this friday about the Bynum thing. Their opinions may have changed from the time they log off their computer to when we sit down. You know, when they become real people.
Your lack of reading comprehension is outstanding. Now you're reduced to a pathetic straw man.
Again if you think a message board represents the majority you really need to GO OUTSIDE. Like right now.
LOL..what the does Bynum's PER and TS% have to do with being a ballhog?..it literally has no relation at all..
Bynum is the only post player in the NBA to average 10+ shots per game and 1 assist or less per game..in games where he shoots 15 times or more, he averages 1.1 assists, the only other player that shoots 15+ times and averages only around 1 assist is Amare..these include games WITH Pau and WITHOUT Pau, and his usage % is 25 or over in most of these games, so he's touching the ball a lot..
Good player, but he is a black hole..I see a lot of Laker fans saying this, it isn't a minority opinion..
I am going outside. To the pow-wow, remember? The one where the majority of Laker fans congregate to discuss team dynamics in person.
Sorry but you are a ing idiot on all levels if you're claiming a player that scores on 57% of his shots is a BLACKHOLE. We aren't talking about ballhogging here.
And it's not ballhogging when the Lakers gameplan is to feed Bynum in low-post position, to take advantage of that 57% shooting, during the first half.
Get your definitions straight.
No I'm pretty sure you aren't. Because in the real world you'll just get laughed out of any room in the greater Los Angeles area.
This is how you talk about the Lakers, just a recap:
"We" "Phil Jackson is blind, brainless" "Bynum is a blackhole".
Bynum is a great player when hes getting touches & playing solid defense..His length gives a ton of teams problems but the offense does look a lil stagnant at times when hes in..Ball movement is better when Pau & Odom play together..Ive also noticed that Ron plays better on offense with Bynum not clogging up the paint. They'll need Bynum in the playoffs though. 21- We know you always wanna back him up but sometimes you gotta admit that LO has more of an impact then Drew when he's attacking the rim & playing solid D. Hopefully Drew plays just as well as he was playing before he went out. I heard some of the coaches wanted to bring Drew off the bench but Phil probably thinks he'll get too butthurt & not try as hard if hes not a starter.
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