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in some parts of the country its really true.
hunting. without it, our cities would run amok with deer, dove, and boars.
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in some parts of the country its really true.
I grew up with guns in the house..Dex is right.
Every tim there was a fight me and my brothers had to be stopped from grabbing a shotgun and shooting our pregnant mother in the head. Nearly happened all the time. I guess we were the lucky ones that we never acted on our urge to take a shotgun, walkup behind our pregnant mother, and shoot her in the back of the head. Whew.
I feel sorry for all the preganant mothers that are shot by 11 year old boys in the back of the head daily, which is most of them. That own guns anyway.
Did you guys hear about that person that ran over that other person with a car? If there was ever proof cars need to be outlawed. That is it.
And also...this lightning . Did you guys hear about that guy that got struck by lightning? It's an epidemic I tell you. If we can figure out a way to outlaw lightning, we surely should.
This dude just choked on a chicken bone. I been saying for years chicken needs to be outlawed, and if it were, that dude would still be alive right now.
And this other dude bashed that kid over the head with a rock...same thing, no rocks, no kid bahsed over the head.
Well, I've owned guns for 16 years. I have a license to carry a concealed weapon (and have done so). I have also been in a few heated arguments in that time, involved in two robberies, and have never once thought of pulling a gun to solve any of them. I do agree with bukefal about giving psych evaluations to people buying guns, but not overly restrictive laws making it nearly impossible to get one. I don't feel I should be punished because some developmentally delayed lummox can't control his/herself. As far as the kid in this story, he should be imprisoned for the rest of his natural life. At 11 I knew exactly what would happen to me if I were to shoot and kill someone. As a matter of fact I knew at 6, so I don't understand where this too ignorant to know any better argument comes from. You don't go pick up a shotgun, put it to the back of someone's head, and blow their brains out by accident. That little mother er knew exactly what he was doing, and shouldn't be allowed any special treatment because he's 11.
Personally I think it's the video games that glorify violence. Too much violence for a young mind to handle.
Since our founding fathers, wisely, guaranteed us the cons ional right to bear arms, and they serve various purposes like
defending ourselves from intruders or attackers on the admittedly slim chance that might happen
defending ourselves from invasion
defending ourselves from our own government
whereas video games serve no purpose except to glorify and desensitize children to violence
I think we should just take the video games away from the kids. Propbably violent cable tv shows too. And movies.
wow this stupid kid ruined so many lives, kinda sad...
I know hes only 11 years old but I think he should rot in jail for the rest of his life. I don't care that hes 11, he did the crime now he needs to face the punishment.
Ultimately this was a failure of the parents, for not locking up their guns properly and for not teaching the kid better. Getting rid of guns is a bad idea but I do support stricter gun control laws. This way we don't punish everyone for the actions of a few and the responsible people aren't affected.
LOL @ whott's posts in this thread..quality..
Sad... he probably attended the same school that put on the Scarface play.
They should be charging the Dad for negligent homicide, if the gun is his. No way should an 11 year old be able to access guns without constant, proper supervision.
Hey, I ripped out spines when I was a kid playing MK, and I turned into a (somewhat) well-adjusted, productive member of society.
As long as parents are there to explain violence in movies, and why it occurs, I don't see it as necessarily a 'bad' thing.
But feel free to do so for your children whottt
Im gonna get in trouble for this, but shotgun to the head is pretty in gangsta.
Now tell me that all video games where you are able to kill educate ...
So then he would just take a butcher knife and stab her to death. Or an axe from the garage and just chop her head off.
People, it's not the "gun" that's the problem. It's the idiots who have access to them.
Guns don't kill people. People kill people. And where there's a will, there's a way.
Remember, man was killing man long before the invention of the "terrible gun".
It's odd, but when I was growing up in the 50s, every kid I knew either owned a gun or had access to one. My Grandad gave me my first gun when I was like 8 years old. And most every male kid I knew had one.
But no one I knew went around killing people with them. In fact as a teen growing up, I can't recall one incident.
So it's got to be something else that has evolved in the last 65 years, that has created this "kill, and damn the consequences" at ude.
Guns were around long before all this killing that goes on today.
I don't worry about the people who go through the licensing requirements to acquire guns.
I worry about the people who don't.
And those people will continue to have access to weapons. They aren't getting them legally, and that isn't going to stop. I don't own a gun. I have no desire to own a gun. Because we plan to have children, any guns we did ever own would be in a gun safe, broken down, with bullets locked in another location. Which, for home defense, is pretty useless, which is why I don't own a gun.
But I don't want that right removed from me, as a lawful citizen.
To be fair, it may have happened back then. The media infrastructure wouldn't have existed to carry the story quite as far or as fast as it does today.
No..I'm one of those people that knows what's best for everyone and feels qualified telling people how they should live their lives.Hey, I ripped out spines when I was a kid playing MK, and I turned into a (somewhat) well-adjusted, productive member of society.
As long as parents are there to explain violence in movies, and why it occurs, I don't see it as necessarily a 'bad' thing.
But feel free to do so for your children whottt
First time I see any legislation banning video games and can have the opportunity to impose it upon everyone else...I'm going to do so.
whottt - is it ok to be a little in love with you because of this thread? I'm sure SFIE wouldn't mind.
this is why white people shouldnt own guns
Thank you easjer. And remember, nothing says thanks like bravatars
What is the point of having a juvenille system when in every case of murder, the non-adult is charged as an adult.
Make-a no sense, to me. Is he a child (as in, under 18 years of age)? yes? Then he is charged as a child.
Say what you want, but what is the point?
What separates an 11 year old murderer from an 11 year old armed robbery in one being charged as an adult and the other not?
Makes no sense, and I have yet to hear a compelling argument as to why some kids are being charged in this manner. Disturbing that this country is so quick to defend children in every negligible moral gray area, but will put one to death just as soon as they kill someone.
Last edited by DarkReign; 03-30-2010 at 03:57 PM.
Well, you are exaggerating - not every case is tried as an adult. Or there wouldn't be so many cases in juvenile court.
What I've been given to understand is that it has to do with one of two things - the understanding and mental ability of the perpetrator of the crime to recognize the crime as being right or wrong (especially in relation to the level of planning involved, which could speak to the maturity of the child in question) and the perceived ability for rehabilitation of the child and the potential for future contributions to society.
There probably are children who really shouldn't be given a second chance or whose crimes are so severe and reprehensible that the only way to protect society from them is to treat them as adults so they can be jailed for the long-term.
Mind you, none of that is meant to argue in favor of or against. Just how I understand the distinctions. I've never given a lot of thought to whether or not all criminals should be treated equally under the law without respect to age, or whether all crimes should be dissected by the age of the perpetrator without regard to the severity of the crime.
Do they have murder in Poland?
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