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    It's mesmerizing to me how so many people miss the important factor of marketing behind all this. This is a business. Period. I'm sure the owner of the Spurs thinks he will be making more money than 40M in the next 3 years with Manu playing for the Spurs than not. Manu is a huge commercial success and I'm pretty convinced this was also on the table when they decided to go ahead and re-sign him.

    It's not just how good a player he is or whether he was overpaid strictly because of what he has left in the tank. He's the franchise money-making player.
    you're right. I feel so much better knowing that the FO is more interested in money than winning, rather than just plain incompetent.

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    To the people who keep saying $40 M / 3 year is "high," please explain your rationale. What objective, quantifiable metric are you using to make that statement? It seems so arbitrary and subjective.

    What should he have been paid per year? Something nearer the MLE? Are you guys suggesting that Ginobili deserves to be paid just a smidgen higher per year than the likes of antonio mcdyess?

    Why does he deserve to take a pay cut, then (he's making $10.7 M this year) when every other spurs player is getting a pay increase over time?

    We have a player who can drop 25+ on any given night with greater offensive efficiency than the likes of kobe bryant, and he does all of the other things that don't show up in box scores (taking key charges, making key stops, leaping out of bounds to save a loose ball with seconds left on the clock and allowing RJ to nail the game winning jumper against OKC) and we're getting him at a fraction of Kobe's price ($90M over 3 years, seriously) and you guys still think he's overpaid?

    I guess I just don't understand, that's all. I'd like to hear everybody's reasoning.

    All I'm saying is, my implied statement that $40M/3 years is "just right" is just as arbitrary and subjective as yall's statement that 40M/3 years is "overpaid," but I've made my case, I just want to hear the other side.

    It's unfathomable to me that someone like Ginobili deserves only the MLE.

    Agree. Almost everybody is on crack and is fully ungreateful.

    Most of the people dont understand that after Manu retires, he will be still (and maybe equal or more) a great value for Spurs franchise. If he switches to another team, that value would probably gone.

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    you're right. I feel so much better knowing that the FO is more interested in money than winning, rather than just plain incompetent.
    man, you couldn't have said that better.. this is after all a business and the numbers have to close. the only reason they weren't re-signing him was if he couldn't play anymore due to injuries.

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    lol I can't believe y'all waste your time arguing with vander, rascal and/or ducks... the fail is to even try to make them see value in something that makes them cringe...

    Rough times ahead for them... for each post they have in between the three of them Manu makes more than 100 times in dollars without even playing a minute...

    but you can also be emphatic... give them a break... in March they have been eating rotten crow daily with Manu playing so well...
    Rough times ahead for actual Spur Fans, but not for Manu fans who pretend to be Spurs fans.

    I'll eat crow if he can do anything close to this in the playoffs, until then, it's just a hot streak, lots of players go on them.

    also I want to know, do you think Manu will continue to play like this through the playoffs and for 3 more years?

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    Rough times ahead for actual Spur Fans, but not for Manu fans who pretend to be Spurs fans.
    lol u mad?

    I'll eat crow if he can do anything close to this in the playoffs, until then, it's just a hot streak, lots of players go on them.
    lol as if Manu never did anything similar on the playoffs... question are you a Spur fan? when did you start following the Spurs

    also I want to know, do you think Manu will continue to play like this through the playoffs and for 3 more years?
    butthurt your Lakers won't be able to get him?

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    unsigned manu is better

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    40 mil for 3 years is overpaying him, but I'd rather that then lose him to be quite honest

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    Geez, they were really scared he could bolt. You gotta do what you gotta do though.

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    Hmmmmm . . .

    Manu got to the line zero, zip, no times vs. Phoenix.

    Think he (or his agent) might be thinking about staying in one piece until he signs that extension (hopefully before the next game).

    We need the old reckless Manu flying to the hoop, not the Manu thinking about family and future.

    Make it happen guys.

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    lol u mad?

    lol as if Manu never did anything similar on the playoffs... question are you a Spur fan? when did you start following the Spurs


    butthurt your Lakers won't be able to get him?
    seriously? why shouldn't I be mad? I don't want to watch what happened tonight for 3 more years, maybe you do, but that's pretty f***ed up. this year is the last harrah! for the big 3. it's sad to see the FO try to cling to the past for 3 more years.

    also I want to know, do you think Manu will continue to play like he did for the past month or so through the playoffs and for 3 more years?

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    i was thrilled to read this

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    Hmmmmm . . .

    Manu got to the line zero, zip, no times vs. Phoenix.

    Think he (or his agent) might be thinking about staying in one piece until he signs that extension (hopefully before the next game).

    We need the old reckless Manu flying to the hoop, not the Manu thinking about family and future.

    Make it happen guys.


    I saw him dive To the hoop and drive lots of times he just couldn't buy a call....

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    lol
    he pulled up and played like he was 60

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    and another thing, if that's the way the FO's going to play it, then we better F***ing re-sign Bonner for 4 years 17+ million, that dude wasn't athletic to begin with so he isn't going to get any worse over the next 4 years, only better if anything, 4+ mil per probably isn't even enough compared to what Manu is getting. F***ing Rabble Rabble!! F*** You Spurs FO!!!

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    the signin of manu and +10m in tax for future seasons

    where does that leave us with signin splitter?

    this signin only means one thing...either spurs going for broke to win championships or someone is clearly gettin traded to make way for a new starting pg in ghill3

    whats the possibility of parker leaving the spurs or the spurs dont think his worth 15m a season when his contract is up and looking at resigning

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    and another thing, if that's the way the FO's going to play it, then we better F***ing re-sign Bonner for 4 years 17+ million, that dude wasn't athletic to begin with so he isn't going to get any worse over the next 4 years, only better if anything, 4+ mil per probably isn't even enough compared to what Manu is getting. F***ing Rabble Rabble!! F*** You Spurs FO!!!
    LOL... Go cry to your homebody Kobe...

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    lol
    he pulled up and played like he was 60
    lol
    you were surprisingly missing the last 4 games

    Tell me ducks, how does it feel to have Manu in the team for 3 more season?

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    the signin of manu and +10m in tax for future seasons

    where does that leave us with signin splitter?

    this signin only means one thing...either spurs going for broke to win championships or someone is clearly gettin traded to make way for a new starting pg in ghill3

    whats the possibility of parker leaving the spurs or the spurs dont think his worth 15m a season when his contract is up and looking at resigning
    I think the Manu deal, if anything, means we are going to keep TP. Probably even re-sign him. either you rebuild now or you don't, Manu and TP are both on the same side of that decision. the FO is going all in with the status quo. let it ride...

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    LOL... Go cry to your homebody Kobe...
    I argue towards the betterment of the Spurs, you argue towards the detriment of a random ST poster.

    I find happiness in the Spurs winning, you find happiness in the misery of a random ST poster.

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    I argue towards the betterment of the Lakers, you argue towards the detriment of a random ST poster.

    I find happiness in the Lakers winning, you find happiness in the misery of a random ST poster.
    fify

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    and another thing, if that's the way the FO's going to play it, then we better F***ing re-sign Bonner for 4 years 17+ million, that dude wasn't athletic to begin with so he isn't going to get any worse over the next 4 years, only better if anything, 4+ mil per probably isn't even enough compared to what Manu is getting. F***ing Rabble Rabble!! F*** You Spurs FO!!!
    Maybe it would have made sense if Bonner would have had a better playoffs than Manu last season.

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    do you really, actually think that? and based on what? and even then, how would me being a Laker fan make me wrong about anything that I have said?

    Would me being a Laker fan suddenly make Manu worth 50 million and a total bargain at the price we (the Spurs) signed him for?
    Would me being a Laker fan suddenly make us (the Spurs) the favorites to win a championship this year and every year that Manu is under contract?

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    Maybe it would have made sense if Bonner would have had a better playoffs than Manu last season.
    funny guy

    I would argue that Bonner can improve on his 2009 playoff outing, Manu... perhaps not

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    Tell me ducks, how does it feel to have Manu in the team for 3 more season?


    Seriously though, this is good news.

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    do you really, actually think that? and based on what? and even then, how would me being a Laker fan make me wrong about anything that I have said?

    Would me being a Laker fan suddenly make Manu worth 50 million and a total bargain at the price we (the Spurs) signed him for?
    Would me being a Laker fan suddenly make us (the Spurs) the favorites to win a championship this year and every year that Manu is under contract?
    You being a Laker fan would go a long ways in explaining the overall suckitude of your posts... Lakerfan

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