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    Was there any reason for the Davidians to do anything but cooperate with a raid they knew was going to take place?
    I couldn't answer that for sure, but the fact there was no reason to go in like the ATF did leads me to believe they planned to take them out anyway, and maybe they knew it and decided to stand for their rights.

    Please. What was a serious enough crime to go in with such force? Did we declare war with them or something?

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    I couldn't answer that for sure, but the fact there was no reason to go in like the ATF did leads me to believe they planned to take them out anyway, and maybe they knew it and decided to stand for their rights.
    You think it's standard operating procedure to just start shooting up a place.

    You're an idiot.

    Please. What was a serious enough crime to go in with such force? Did we declare war with them or something?
    Did they go in initially with such force? You are making yourself look completely ignorant with your assumptions.

    These guys were breaking the law. That's just dandy with you.

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    These guys were breaking the law. That's just dandy with you.
    They were set up by law enforcement, weren't they?

    I have seen some real disturbing things about how the ATF did things. Sorry, I myself, cannot think it was nothing but an unnecessary show of force.

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    They were set up by law enforcement, weren't they?
    No. Get back to me when you catch a clue.

    I have seen some real disturbing things about how the ATF did things. Sorry, I myself, cannot think it was nothing but an unnecessary show of force.
    Your bias will prevent you from thinking anything else.

    If I knew the ATF was coming to serve a warrant at my place. I wouldn't barricade myself inside with children and automatic weapons. I can believe you want to cast your lot with criminal cult idiots. You cannot do anything else.

    I will state that the end of the siege was an unnecessary show of force by the FBI, but once you start killing feds, things are not going to end well for you anyway. So just give the up.

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    They were set up by law enforcement, weren't they?

    I have seen some real disturbing things about how the ATF did things. Sorry, I myself, cannot think it was nothing but an unnecessary show of force.
    Are you questioning the official story? That's real interesting, cuz we got a name for people like you...truther!

    C'mon, we've all seen and heard disturbing stuff about 9/11...but no one with half a brain will question events under a Republican President. That'd be wrong.

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    It's considered disloyalty to the tribe to criticize its abuses of power in public. It's much easier to blame everything on the satanic Democrats.

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    Are you questioning the official story? That's real interesting, cuz we got a name for people like you...truther!

    C'mon, we've all seen and heard disturbing stuff about 9/11...but no one with half a brain will question events under a Republican President. That'd be wrong.
    I don't pretend to know all the truth. Just that the feds were o0verkill on the situation. Because of that, I have an open mind to someone abusing their power.

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