MiamiHeat, educate these fools please.
Go eat KFC Dazed and Confused.
Take the win because you guys barely got it. I wish Kobe was on another team because I respect his game so much, but I can't stand LA fans. Durant's not a superstar? He almost won OKC a road game against the defending champs. He has made the newest NBA team an actual playoff team this year.
GTFO.
Don't you have a room that they built you hereabouts to go to, himat? That room they built you guys after they built that shoestore in your ass in the Finals.
Skeedaddle, jagoff.
What planet do laker fans come from? Seriously, you guys are ing stupid.
"Kobe would destroy him"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...anke01&y2=2010
Stats and logic dont apply when it comes to Kobe. He's the "clutchest" player eventhough he missed the most shots, He's better than Lebron the past few years eventhough PER, W/S and other useful statistical metric says so. Kobe does'nt need to "shoot less" eventhough he's shooting 30%. Try again.
99-00...was that the year Kobe got his first championship?What planet do laker fans come from? Seriously, you guys are ing stupid.
"Kobe would destroy him"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...anke01&y2=2010
Yes, he broke his cherry over the dead bodies of the Blazers. Then he commissed to rampaging to a three peat.
Put it this way, Kobe in his absolute prime (27-28 y/o) has failed to lead a team to 50 wins without Shaq or Gasol. Kevin Durant at his rawest form has helped OKC win that much with a bunch of young players and a new coach to 50 wins
That criteria alone makes Kobe > Durant.
WTF good does it do to get the 50 if you can't get the other 16 at the bitter end?
Make the playoffs. Win the last game you play. There is nothing else.
Congrats to Tim Duncan for winning the "i reached 50 wins in every season" award.
Well my point is Durant can lead a team far better than most franchise players. Now, he just need a legitimate big man and experience to go further, so people shoul'dnt just discredit what KD has done this year. He's making history and people should appreciate that. Kid is also humble, so I dont see the hate for Durant here.
Right. While you're at it, congratulate him for winning 4 les and multiple regular season and Final MVP's as well.Congrats to Tim Duncan for winning the "i reached 50 wins in every season" award.
Wow. You are really dense.That criteria alone makes Kobe > Durant.
Everyone here has admitted that Durant is a purer shooter. It's not all about shooting %. Since you use HOF Shaq as part of your argument, have you ever considered that Kobe got those numbers that are very close to Durants while having to defer to a veteran cast around him and that Durant is the focus of his team? You seriously don't think Kobe would have gone off much more and put up better numbers if he was the focal point? If you answer no then it's just your hatred talking. Also, defense is not included in your numbers but then again, you never post the whole picture if any part of said picture doesn't support your obsession.What planet do laker fans come from? Seriously, you guys are ing stupid.
"Kobe would destroy him"
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...anke01&y2=2010
FG% - almost identical. (less than one shot per 100)
Durant better at 3p% (5 shots out of a 100 better)
Durant with the superstar treatment with almost double the free throws. (Kobe actually had to earn his superstar status)
Durant with 1 more rebound a game and same blocks. Hmmm I would think a forward would dominate these stats over a guard.
Kobe double in assists and 2 shots less per game. (I don't hear the "chucker" comments coming from you about Durant. How so?)
Kobe defensive 1st team. I don't think you will find Durant there this year
So yes, Durant is a SLIGHTLY better shooter. He draws more fouls or is awarded more fouls for a player at that age. It's the very reason you are hearing all the comments about his getting jordan status without earning it. Same steals and blocks as Kobe yet you left off rebounds in your highlights. Go figure. He should be double Kobe in rebounds and blocks. And again, to use your own point, Kobe had Shaq and a veteran team of quality players. There are only so many rebounds steals, and blocks to go around. And defensively Kobe was twice the player Durant is at the same ages and last I looked, defense is half the game and the more important half if you want to win championships.
One player had to defer, one player is defered to. Durant is a great player and doing an amazing job at his age. He is a slightly better shooter. The rest of the stats are very similar and in fact support Kobe when considering the position they play. Kobe was a much much better defender. All around player at age 21 goes to Kobe. Unless of course you weigh the slightly better FG% as 90% of your argument.
LOL at obsessed haters calling anyone stupid...
Last edited by cobbler; 04-21-2010 at 08:28 PM.
I haven't seen any hate posts about Durant. I see posts where people freely admit he's a purer shooter but in overall game give the nod to Kobe. The only hate in any posts here is your habitual hate for Kobe and anything Lakers. Durant has a great future in front of him. And if and when he does fulfill that promise I would bet most here would applaud him rather than create thread after thread, post after post, of obsessive hate.
Last edited by cobbler; 04-21-2010 at 09:56 PM.
Contrary to popular belief, I like the Lakers when Kobe does'nt play. They are a fun team to watch, especially Gasol and Odom. And I also dont "hate" Kobe, however I dont like his rabid followers that puts Kobe in a untouchable standard.
And once again... no comments when posts are made to refute your numbers and how you portray them. Same ole same ole...
You can't be a superstar if you're not clutch. Durant is not clutch.
He throws up airballs, fumbles the ball, and generates TO's when the game is on the line. You can see he is not completely comfortable on the floor when the game is on the line the way Kobe, MJ, and even Lebron are. It will come in time, but he's not there yet.
You can't be a superstar if you're not clutch. KD hasn't earned that status yet, no matter how many points he scores. And Westbrook is carrying the Thunder just as much as Durant is, if not more.
Durant - better shooter, scorer
Kobe at 21 - better all-around player
Kobe's a better playmaker, no doubt about that. Durant is a better rebounder. Defensively its a wash. I dont know how you guys can say Kobe is a better all around player.
DEFENSE
And Kobe is a lot closer to Durants rebounds than Durant is to Kobe's playmaking.
It's not rocket science... How can you not consider defense edit: in Kobe's favor?
Last edited by cobbler; 04-21-2010 at 09:05 PM.
I just said defense is a wash
I know you said it... that does not make it correct. Kobe was first team all defense in 2000. You think Durant is? Seriously?I just said defense is a wash
Kobe was significantly ahead of Durant defensively. He was a much, much better man-defender, as good a shot-blocker, better at jumping the lanes. He was significantly ahead of Durant as a playmaker. He was a better ballhandler even at that stage. He was a better game manager during crunchtime.
Durant is better as a rebounder and scorer. And marginally, at that. Those are his only advantages.
Great player, but if he isn't doing his thing scoring I barely notice he's on the court. You could never say that about Kobe, at any point beyond 1999.
No hate, I look for KD to improve his all around game in the upcoming years and push himself into the upper echelon.
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