Robert Horry kind of foul. Cheap, but not as dirty as a Bruce Bowen one.
My favorite part was our coaching staff's reaction. Pop gets up in anger and remembers to turn around and tell every1 to stay the fk where they are (same with our assistants)...and thats what separates us from the suns
A picture is worth a thousand words. Convenient, since I don't know 998 more words that mean the same thing as "dirty bas ". Great pic, Taco.
Ginobili seen here leaving after Game 4, says he will be ready to play for game 5. Ginobili also said he will not be wearing his head peice for game 5.
Awsome.
Ginobili seen here leaving after Game 4, says he will be ready to play for game 5. Ginobili also said he will not be wearing his head peice for game 5.
One of the guys here at work actually told me he thought what Najera did was cool. He said "that's my man." He said Najera was sent in to send a message since the Mavs were getting screwed by the refs. He said poor Dirk has been getting mauled and beat up in every game and not getting the calls. But then he agreed Dallas is a jumpshooting team - some fans are just really ignorant.
Oh - and he's convinced the Mavs are gonna win the next 3
It's gonna be fun rubbing his face in it later this week!
Ray, is that you?
It was a bad foul because it was intentional. Clotheslining Manu. Najera suspended 1 or 2 games.
Paul Pierce would've died.This.
I dread to think what would have happened if it had been someone like Paul Pierce, in Manu's place.Wheelchairs to the rescue!
and come back for game 5
Scott,
It wasn't the dirtiest foul I've ever seen . . . taking someone's legs out when they are in the air is much worse (a legal move in football, by the way, so comparing the two sports is ludicrous), but it was a dirty foul. All the fouls by the Spurs were "basketball" fouls were there is an attempted play at the ball. Najera was sent in to injure someone (which, thankfully he failed to do) and that is the distinction. The outrage stems from people being Spurs fans. Any other fan would express some level of outrage if it were to happen to one of their players and rightfully so.
You admitted to not even watching regular season basketball. So, you aren't even that much of a fan, but you feel you have to come into this thread and insult Spurs fans about their reaction. It seems like you don't enjoy sports unless there is a high probability of injury. Bloodlust like yours is not part of any real basketball fan's mindset. Get help, you sociopath.
As for this, if you watch the replay Pop immediately jumps up, starts marching toward the action with that "end of days" look on his face. Then has the composure to do a very quick about face tells the assistant coaches to keep everybody on the bench, then turns around and continues his march toward the action. I thought this was excellent.
As for Najera, the guy is a total idiot. One of my friends went to high school with him, and told me about two times that he got busted cheating on his Spanish tests . . . Let that sink in a moment. Najera is from Mexico. They let it slide though because he was good at basketball and his parents were rich. My buddy said he has always been an arrogant prick who is a moron.
It's not ludicrous to compare the two, and even the NFL doesn't allow unlimited contact on receivers when they are in the air, and defenseless. Like it or not, what Najera did was dirty, and would have been illegal even in the NFL.
"It is now an illegal hit on a defenseless receiver if the initial force of the contact by the defender’s helmet, forearm or shoulder is to the head or neck area"
Jerry Markbreit, former NFL referee - All players in virtually defenseless postures are protected from unnecessary hits by the defense, which include helmet-to-helmet contact, helmet-to-body contact, and blows to the head. Intended receivers of forward passes who fail to catch the pass are considered to be in a defenseless position immediately after the pass is missed. If the pass is caught, all of these restrictions are off, unless in the opinion of the covering official, something unsportsmanlike occurs.
Cool. Thanks for the fun fact. Not at all what I was talking about though.
Najera needs to be suspended unless the league wants this series getting any uglier. At best in the heat of an extremely physical game he lost his cool and committed a dangerous foul. If the league wants to believe that then putting him on the bench sends a message to both sides exactly where the line is and where it got crossed.
At worst he either came in with his own personal agenda to level someone or worse yet with instructions, implicit or explicit, to level someone. If that's the way the league sees it I don't see how they could not suspend him.
I guess I'm just not in the mood for condescending pricks today.
You said that comparing the two sports is ludicrous. (Since you said it, I assumed you were talking about it.) It isn't ludicrous. Both sports have rules to protect players who are vulnerable from getting the knocked out of them.
If it's dangerous to a player wearing pads and a helmet, playing on grass - it's probably dangerous for an unprotected guy playing on a hardwood floor. Those are the facts. I don't give a if they're fun or not.
You are a sensitive little guy, eh?
I don't know where the wires got crossed, but I think I agree with you. One sport is played in pads on turf, the other is played in what are essentially pajamas, on hardwood. That's why I said the comparison is ludicrous.
Also, the NFL rules you quoted say nothing about hitting a receiver with the ball in the air, taking his legs out, which is what I was referring to.
The NBA did nothing about the Mavs players that directly defied David Stern's warning about criticizing the officials, and shouldn't be surprised that the Mavs feel more and more justified every time Dirk Nowitzki doesn't shoot at least as many free throws as the Spurs team does.
With all the proclaimed "HATE" that Marky Mark has for the Spurs, I wouldn't put it past him to call for that hit.
Yeah... piss poor morning.
I knew your point about undercutting. Actually, I saw a ref call a penalty for exactly that last season. I wish I could remember the teams, but I can't. I was pissed, because I thought the ref was pulling something out of his ass, because it's not in the rules. What I found out was that it's not "explicitly" in the rules. But the refs have the ability to make a judgment call when it involves a helpless receiver. The receiver had gone WAY up for a ball, and it was pretty clear the defender was trying to hurt him. Necks get broken on plays like that.
The main point of the whole discussion is that it's dangerous as to pull a guy down backwards like that - especially when he's up in the air and falling onto a hard surface. If he had hooked Manu and then let go, it would be one thing. But to hold on and continue the motion toward the floor? Bull - that's not an accident. And it could even hurt a guy in pads, if he fell wrong.
Injuries can happen any time. But some behavior makes them too damned likely. Najera needs to sit.
It was a great pump fake by Manu, btw...
McHale/Rambis clothesline, game 4, 1984 Finals = dirtiest foul ever seen.
celebrated/viewable here.
(my favorites about the clothesline: Rambis goes after McHale right away; it's Worthy that intervenes and sends Rambis backwards over the photogs; it's Bird that give Rambis a hand up).
Najera? Najera just sucks. Forget about him, he will be on vacation after next game.
No suspension
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