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    Boston fan should understand better than most the frustration that builds during a Championship drought. They should know very well from their experience with the Red Sox.
    I'm not a Red Sox fan, but obviously I've experimented frustration with the Celtics in the past.

    However, I like to think I never allowed my passions to cloud my judgement. I never tried to pretend that a player having a great series was "tanking" just because I needed to find an escape for my frustrations. I find that pretty pathetic, to be honest. Like I never subscribed the theory that "we can't win with Pierce, he's a natural born loser, empty stats, bla bla bla". I found that ridiculous re: Pierce and it's even more if we're talking about LeBron. I think it takes away from the pleasure of enjoying the game.

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    I'm not a Red Sox fan, but obviously I've experimented frustration with the Celtics in the past.

    However, I like to think I never allowed my passions to cloud my judgement. I never tried to pretend that a player having a great series was "tanking" just because I needed to find an escape for my frustrations. I find that pretty pathetic, to be honest. I think it takes away from the pleasure of enjoying the game.

    I find your know it all superiority complex over the internet to be some of the most pathetic garbage I've ever witnessed.

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    NY would never boo him..
    This is NY we're talking about here. Not only do they boo their teams/players, their media would tear LeBron a new asshole if he played there like he did in Cleveland last night.

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    I find your know it all superiority complex over the internet to be some of the most pathetic garbage I've ever witnessed.
    I find your inability to get over it amusing.

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    I find your inability to get over it amusing.

    Why don't you just "get over" Cleveland fan then?

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    Typical New York BS. ARod is a great, great player. Period. He wasn't the problem in those postseason losses, it was the sorry Yankee pitching staff that did them in.

    As for Jeter, well, he hit .176 during the ALDS against the Indians a few years ago, accounted for something like 19 outs in 17 at-bats, was absolutely awful, and what did Yankees fans do? They blamed ARod.

    Face it, you treated a great player like absolute garbage for years.
    ARod sucked in EVERY playoff series he was in as a Yankee except ONE before the WS run..he had every right to get booed, he was having unbelievably bad series'..he didn't have a good relationship with the fans, had tons of problems off the court when it came to relating with the fans and he couldn't do anything on the field to make up for it..

    He batted over .300 in ONE series in the playoffs before the WS run..he was unbelievably bad..

    When ARod finally stepped up after years of mediocrity, he got his praise..

    Jeter will never get booed, because he earned it..he's a winner, he's a lifetime Yankee that always performed well in the playoffs and he's great at relating to the fans..

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    Jeter will never get booed, because he earned it

    he earned the right to choke?

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    The booing isn't the biggest issue here..fans boo..the issue is that these people are TRASHING Lebron and jumping off his bandwagon before the series is even over..these people are calling him soft and insulting him..this isn't just booing here, these ungrateful fans are trashing a guy over one game..

    Saying his legacy is tarnished, saying he doesn't know teamwork, saying he's mentally weak/soft..some of them saying a lot worse..it's ridiculous and pathetic..

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    Why don't you just "get over" Cleveland fan then?
    Hu, what? I found their reaction intriguing. I doubt I'm the only one, I suppose that's why Abbot write this article and so many people commented it. I thought Abbot nailed it; now there's an explanation that involves extra-basketball motives and not a crazy and unjustifiable overreaction to a bad game from a superb player. I'm not sure if it makes them look any better, but it's not I'll still be thinking about this next week.

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    Hu, what? I found their reaction intriguing. I doubt I'm the only one, I suppose that's why Abbot write this article and so many people commented it. I thought Abbot nailed it; now there's an explanation that involves extra-basketball motives and not a crazy and unjustifiable overreaction to a bad game from a superb player. I'm not sure if it makes them look any better, but it's not I'll still be thinking about this next week.

    I find smelly Spanish people who think they know everything intriguing.

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    Hu, what? I found their reaction intriguing. I doubt I'm the only one, I suppose that's why Abbot write this article and so many people commented it. I thought Abbot nailed it; now there's an explanation that involves extra-basketball motives and not a crazy and unjustifiable overreaction to a bad game from a superb player. I'm not sure if it makes them look any better, but it's not I'll still be thinking about this next week.
    Abbott is expressing the national media's contempt for Cavaliers fans, that's what he's doing. He and most of the others in the media- the exceptions being Brian Windhorst and Chris Broussard, both of whom are from here and understand- don't think we're worthy of having a player like LeBron James on our team. They never have, going back to 2003.

    So of course they think we should be pathetically grateful to even stand in this man's shadow and never, ever question any of his decisions, any of his performances. After all, we really don't deserve LeBron. Some other city does- New York, Chicago, Miami, and in Abbott's case, Portland- but not us.

    All last night did was confirm to them their pre-existing prejudices about Cleveland fans. That's it.

    And Mojo, if you think we were out of hand last night, well...



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    Why would the media have contempt for the CLE fans?

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    Abbott is expressing the national media's contempt for Cavaliers fans, that's what he's doing. He and most of the others in the media- the exceptions being Brian Windhorst and Chris Broussard, both of whom are from here and understand- don't think we're worthy of having a player like LeBron James on our team. They never have, going back to 2003.

    So of course they think we should be pathetically grateful to even stand in this man's shadow and never, ever question any of his decisions, any of his performances. After all, we really don't deserve LeBron. Some other city does- New York, Chicago, Miami, and in Abbott's case, Portland- but not us.

    All last night did was confirm to them their pre-existing prejudices about Cleveland fans. That's it.
    That's paranoia. I had no previous opinion about Cleveland fans and I had the exact same thoughts.

    It's not about being grateful. It's just understanding that every great had off nights and that if a player is putting up 27/7/7 while playing great defense the problem is probably somewhere else. I mean, Boston fans booed the Cs just 2 games ago (and obviously used the "they didn't put the effort, when they put the effort we win easily" excuse), but they didn't pile on like this.

    The thing is: LeBrons performance in the 1st game vs. the Celtics in 2008 was worse than last night one. He followed it by another stinker. Where was this reaction then?

    And just out of curiosity, what are you going to say if LeBron wins a le, this season or in the next one?

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    I find smelly Spanish people who think they know everything intriguing.
    I'm not Spanish, . Now shut up.

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    I'm not Spanish, . Now shut up.

    Wowwww. U mad son? And this guy calls other people racist.

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    That's paranoia. I had no previous opinion about Cleveland fans and I had the exact same thoughts.
    Well why the would you have an opinion? You're 5,000 miles away across the ocean, what do you know? I don't go on FC Barcelona boards and break their balls because I'm aware I have no clue.

    It's not about being grateful. It's just understanding that every great had off nights and that if a player is putting up 27/7/7 while playing great defense the problem is probably somewhere else. I mean, Boston fans booed the Cs just 2 games ago (and obviously used the "they didn't put the effort, when they put the effort we win easily" excuse), but they didn't pile on like this.
    It's NOT that he had an off night, it's that he didn't even give a respectable effort. He mailed it in, in his own building, right in front of his own fans. He was disgraceful.

    That's the difference between last night's game and Game One of the Boston series in 2008. Yeah, he was dreadful in that game- but he was TRYING. It just wasn't his night. That we can accept. But we're a city that applauds effort as much as results, and when the effort isn't there, well... we get a little pissed about it.

    And just out of curiosity, what are you going to say if LeBron wins a le, this season or in the next one?
    He won't. He'll never win an NBA le unless he's carpetbagging a la Gary Payton on the 2006 Heat. He's a loser.

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    bspn article we all know they will always have lebrons nutts in their mouths

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    That's paranoia. I had no previous opinion about Cleveland fans and I had the exact same thoughts.

    It's not about being grateful. It's just understanding that every great had off nights and that if a player is putting up 27/7/7 while playing great defense the problem is probably somewhere else. I mean, Boston fans booed the Cs just 2 games ago (and obviously used the "they didn't put the effort, when they put the effort we win easily" excuse), but they didn't pile on like this.

    The thing is: LeBrons performance in the 1st game vs. the Celtics in 2008 was worse than last night one. He followed it by another stinker. Where was this reaction then?

    And just out of curiosity, what are you going to say if LeBron wins a le, this season or in the next one?


    It's all about expectations. Clevelanders expect their team in the Finals at least. If they lose here it's unacceptable, especially if their star player isn't looking like he gave it his all by driving to the rim when his jumpshot wouldn't fall.

    And yes, it's definitely a type of paranoia, the feeling that Bother bad moment was just around the bend.

    Celtics fans didn't flip out in Game 3 because Celtics fans aren't expecting a le, I think.

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    I'm not Spanish, . Now shut up.
    lol garnet.

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    Well why the would you have an opinion? You're 5,000 miles away across the ocean, what do you know? I don't go on FC Barcelona boards and break their balls because I'm aware I have no clue.

    It's NOT that he had an off night, it's that he didn't even give a respectable effort. He mailed it in, in his own building, right in front of his own fans. He was disgraceful.
    I said I had no opinion. Now I do. It's called the internet, globalization, all that jazz. Welcome to the 21th century.

    That's the difference between last night's game and Game One of the Boston series in 2008. Yeah, he was dreadful in that game- but he was TRYING. It just wasn't his night. That we can accept. But we're a city that applauds effort as much as results, and when the effort isn't there, well... we get a little pissed about it.
    That's baloney. Yesterday his shots weren't falling, his teammates were playing even worse than him and they weren't getting any stops who's a killer if you're facing a half-court defense doubling you inside the arc.

    Do you think the Celtics in game 3 weren't trying?

    He won't. He'll never win an NBA le unless he's carpetbagging a la Gary Payton on the 2006 Heat. He's a loser.
    Yeah, yeah, everything about his career screams loser... Anyway, if he wins a le for Cleveland, you'll refuse to commemorate and even acknowledge it?

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    No, I'll never be a Knicks fan, but I like to see NY basketball succeed..a lot of my friends are Knicks fans, I'd like to see their team do well too..

    I'm also a Lebron fan, as everybody can see, so I'd like to see him go somewhere where he will be appreciated..NY would never boo him..
    be appreciated? LMAO. fans deserve to boo when they pay to see a ty product that doesn't come close to meeting expectations - two times. it lights a fire under the team's ass. Lebron has had nothing but love from Cavss fans ever since he's been in the league up to this point.

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    I said I had no opinion. Now I do. It's called the internet, globalization, all that jazz. Welcome to the 21th century.
    Right. Well, since you're so well-versed on the psyche of Cleveland fan, let's talk about 1964. About Jim Chones's foot. About Red Right 88. About the Drive. The Fumble. The Move. Jose Mesa.

    You can read, you can think you understand... but you don't understand. You can't.

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    Mogrovejo just has to go against the grain. If the consensus seems to be one direction he'll go the other way. He thinks it makes him look smart or something. It's not even worth arguing with him.

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    be appreciated? LMAO. fans deserve to boo when they pay to see a ty product that doesn't come close to meeting expectations - two times. it lights a fire under the team's ass. Lebron has had nothing but love from Cavss fans ever since he's been in the league up to this point.
    Do they have the right to insult him by calling him a loser, mentally weak, soft and all of that?..he's given their franchise more success than they could imagine..

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    Why are CLE fans offing themselves? LOL acting like sports is so important. "You can't understand my pain..."

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