"If Lebron was on the Lakers", and other foolishness

[ChrisRichards]

Lebron right now deserves the criticism, though I still love the kid. Something is wrong with him last night and Im sure the truth will come out sooner or later.


Anyway, Kobe has the best 1st option out of all the Superstars in the league. Gasol is so good, he's a legitimate 1B option. There's simply no comparison. Lebron's suppsedly "2nd option" is Jamison who magically disappeared just like his other ex wizard teammates (Buttler, Heywood!)

[JamStone]

killa,

I don't care about people saying Bron is better than Kobe. I think he is to.

Its just the bull about Kobe needing help thats....some bull . Bron needs the same help. If he didn't, he wouldn't be getting demolished in the 2nd, 3rd round ever year.

All that "Kobe needs an allstar big" looks stupid when Cavs fans and Kobe haters are praying to their God, or Hindu, or Allah, or whoever, that Bron gets the same thing because he can't do without.

Just like 99% of the superstars in the history of the league have needed help. The newflash is coming quick - it ain't just Kobe.

The "LeBron could do more with less than Kobe could" will die down considerably. I don't think you need to get bent out of shape over it.

The talk in large part was a product of what LeBron was able to do in the 2007 playoffs, by leading a team of scrubs to the NBA Finals, almost single-handedly, even though they did get ass raped in the Finals. I think a lot of people looked at that and really gave LeBron an unbelievable amount of credit for how good he is, justified or not. But LeBron has lost some of that shine. Still absolutely a great basketball player and still "arguably" the best player in the league. But, that greatness has definitely taken a hit. Where once there were people seriously talking about LeBron becoming the greatest basketball player ever, now things will temper down and cool off. Now because of the way he bowed out this year in addition to the way he did last year, while not arguing his talent, more and more people will wait and take a "prove it" approach in evaluating how great LeBron actually is.

I think most people understand that now.

[mogrovejo]

1. If he had more help than he had this year, he might still not have got past the Celtics, or Orlando, or the Lakers/Suns. He got knocked out in the SECOND ROUND.

2. If the Cavs had more help than they had this year, they would have as much or more than the other teams. Guess what - LEBRON HAD A GOOD ING TEAM.

He had a team whose 2nd best player was Anderson Varejao and was still a contender and still won 60 games. They were knocked out on the 2nd round because they faced another top-3 team. In the West, they'd be facing the finals.

[picc84]

The "LeBron could do more with less than Kobe could" will die down considerably. I don't think you need to get bent out of shape over it.

The talk in large part was a product of what LeBron was able to do in the 2007 playoffs, by leading a team of scrubs to the NBA Finals, almost single-handedly, even though they did get ass raped in the Finals. I think a lot of people looked at that and really gave LeBron an unbelievable amount of credit for how good he is, justified or not. But LeBron has lost some of that shine. Still absolutely a great basketball player and still "arguably" the best player in the league. But, that greatness has definitely taken a hit. Where once there were people seriously talking about LeBron becoming the greatest basketball player ever, now things will temper down and cool off. Now because of the way he bowed out this year in addition to the way he did last year, while not arguing his talent, more and more people will wait and take a "prove it" approach in evaluating how great LeBron actually is.

I think most people understand that now.

No doubt.

All I ask is some consistency. Nothing against Bron the player, he's fantastic. Best in the world.

Just want all things to be equal, and everyone to be fair.

[ChrisRichards]

He had a team whose 2nd best player was Anderson Varejao and was still a contender and still won 60 games. They were knocked out on the 2nd round because they faced another top-3 team. In the West, they'd be facing the finals.

Mogro hits the spot again.


I dont think people realize how good Lebron is. The problem with the Cavs in the playoffs is once they face a real contender in a 7 game series, they're exposed because they dont have any other game plan other than for Lebron to make things happen.


I really dont blame the role players that much, although a true second option wont hurt. But Mike Brown really has wasted Lebron's last 2 years in the league. A coaching change and minor tweaks in Cleveland should be all they need if Lebron decides to stay.

[JamStone]

You're talking about sports and moreover fandom.

Since when are real sports fans fair or rational?

[ChrisRichards]

No doubt.

All I ask is some consistency. Nothing against Bron the player, he's fantastic. Best in the world.

Just want all things to be equal, and everyone to be fair.

How the do you expect fairness when Lebron's second best player is Mo Williams while Kobe has Gasol to save his ass?

[picc84]

He had a team whose 2nd best player was Anderson Varejao and was still a contender and still won 60 games. They were knocked out on the 2nd round because they faced another top-3 team. In the West, they'd be facing the finals.

So much made up bull . So many excuses. So much revisionist history. You outdo yourself with every post.

[picc84]

How the do you expect fairness when Lebron's second best player is Mo Williams while Kobe has Gasol to save his ass?

What the does that have to do with what I said?

Why the am I even talking to you? Its ChrisRichards....I see you trollin.

[TheMACHINE]

How the do you expect fairness when Lebron's second best player is Mo Williams while Kobe has Gasol to save his ass?

what? i thought having jamison put the Cavs over the top?

Wasnt it UNFAIR to the lakers?!

GTFO

[ChrisRichards]

what? i thought having jamison put the Cavs over the top?

Wasnt it UNFAIR to the lakers?!

GTFO

Who would've thought Jamison would disappear? Are you re ed?

[mogrovejo]

So much made up bull . So many excuses. So much revisionist history. You outdo yourself with every post.

So, do you have any basketball related counter-argument or you're just conceding the point?

[TheMACHINE]

So, do you have any basketball related counter-argument or you're just conceding the point?

did you think the Cavs we're going to get eliminated in the 2nd round?

[Ghazi]

Kick their asses mogrovejo

As the league will find out next year, the difference between having Varejao as your 2nd best player and Nowitzki is ginormous

75 win ecstasy

[TheMACHINE]

Kick their asses mogrovejo

As the league will find out next year, the difference between having Varejao as your 2nd best player and Nowitzki is ginormous

75 win ecstasy

nice...a team of chokers...awesome.

[ChrisRichards]

Lebron with the Lakers. Wont skip a beat. Other players would enjoy the camaraderie and Jackson's job would be twice as easier. They are also the favorite to win it all.


Kobe with the Cavs. Would lose against the Celtics in 4 games.

[Ghazi]

nice...a team of chokers...awesome.

whatever helps you sleep at night

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Ghazi just sucking the he's supposed to suck.

[TheMACHINE]

Who would've thought Jamison would disappear? Are you re ed?

You're the re who thought the Cavs we're the best team if they got jamison...and now you are syaing they are crap. Busting a John Kerry i see.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

my ass mogrovejo

ghey

[TheMACHINE]

Lebron with the Lakers. Wont skip a beat. Other players would enjoy the camaraderie and Jackson's job would be twice as easier. They are also the favorite to win it all.


Kobe with the Cavs. Would lose against the Celtics in 4 games.

yah....you're the expert in seeing how teams do with new players.

[ChrisRichards]

You're the re who thought the Cavs we're the best team if they got jamison...and now you are syaing they are crap. Busting a John Kerry i see.

Uh, they were? Are you blind?


Lebron was'nt even playing near 70%

[ChrisRichards]

yah....you're the expert in seeing how teams do with new players.

Simple answer. Do you agree, yes or no?

[picc84]

So, do you have any basketball related counter-argument or you're just conceding the point?

"In the west they'd be facing the finals".

What kind of counterargument would you like for that? Its just some you made up. People thought they'd be in the finals when the east playoffs started....clearly that didn't go as you thought.

You're not even making arguments, you're just typing random opinions with no basis in reality.

"He needs less help than Kobe to win the finals", "In the west they'd be in the finals".

Sure, buddy...and if Trevor Ariza and Andrew Bynum were healthy in the 2008 finals, Wheelchair Pierce would be ringless.

But thats just my opinion, you see...I don't try to pass it off as resolute fact that you have to counter-argue to disprove.

[TheMACHINE]

Uh, they were? Are you blind?


Lebron was'nt even playing near 70%

lol....

"Cavs are the best team if they get Jamison" to "Lebron needs a second option"