BREAKING NEWS: SI.com "two league sources" say Mike Brown has been fired

[4>0rings]

There it is, Dan Gilbert just denied LeBron was fired.

Larry Brown would be awful coaching LeBron. Larry Brown is great, but sometimes people forget how painful to watch are his teams offenses.

They were going to fire LeBron!!!!

[Crytek]

What can't Brown do for you?

[ducks]

They should get AJ. He'd end that stupid iness of their role players ASAP.

[Giuseppe]

if they fire mike brown lebron should come to the spurs to stick it to the man

Then you'd have 2 s on your team.

[BlackSwordsMan]

the more the merrier
tee hee

[Bukefal]

In this case, it's more than fair. His line-ups this series were appalling.

Well, idk if it's really fair. Because under him and with Lebron, Cleveland has been such a good team. I think it's not about Brown, they just can't handle the pressure in the playoffs. They do so good in the season, also with Brown, and in the playoffs they it up. They can't handle the pressure.

And who should they get now? I think it's over for cleveland.

[Ashy Larry]

you win that coach of the year award, you ass is dead ........

Jerry Sloan hasn't won it yet and has been coaching for 20+ years


Byron Scott, Mike Brown and Avery Johnson wins it and gets axed (Brown's melon is coming off soon)


And is it just me or has anyone else seen all 452 teeth in Mike Brown's mouth when he talks?? Why does dude do that with his mouth??

[mogrovejo]

Well, idk if it's really fair. Because under him and with Lebron, Cleveland has been such a good team. I think it's not about Brown, they just can't handle the pressure in the playoffs. They do so good in the season, also with Brown, and in the playoffs they it up. They can't handle the pressure.

And who should they get now? I think it's over for cleveland.

Who are "they"?

Cleveland has been extremely successful in the playoffs. They made a NBA Finals + 2 conference finals. The other time they were beaten in the 2nd round was by the Celtics who won the championship - and they were the tougher opponent Boston faced and the team that came closer to beat them by far.

In fact, people used to say the exact opposite - that they were a team build for the playoffs because their playoff success was generally greater than the regular season success.

I think Brown has done a good job overall, but his coaching in this series was awful and cost Cleveland the chance of fighting for the series. They were a contender with a coach whose decisions made them a non-contender. I can't recall ever seeing a coaching performance as poor as Mike Brown's in that last series. For that, he should be fired; but in any case, I'm fairly sure he completely lost his team - so he needs to go anyway even if you want to give him another chance.

[scottspurs]

So now they are saying Mike Brown will not be fired and will remain Cavs coach. Ric Bucher was right for once.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5189101

[ginobili's bald spot]

if they fire mike brown lebron should come to the spurs to stick it to the man

The only man he'd be sticking it to would be himself.

[Bukefal]

Who are "they"?

Cleveland has been extremely successful in the playoffs. They made a NBA Finals + 2 conference finals. The other time they were beaten in the 2nd round was by the Celtics who won the championship - and they were the tougher opponent Boston faced and the team that came closer to beat them by far.

In fact, people used to say the exact opposite - that they were a team build for the playoffs because their playoff success was generally greater than the regular season success.

I think Brown has done a good job overall, but his coaching in this series was awful and cost Cleveland the chance of fighting for the series. They were a contender with a coach whose decisions made them a non-contender. I can't recall ever seeing a coaching performance as poor as Mike Brown's in that last series. For that, he should be fired; but in any case, I'm fairly sure he completely lost his team - so he needs to go anyway even if you want to give him another chance.

With they I mean first of all LeBron and with him the whole team. I think it's just a pressure issue that they are falling in the playoffs.

[Killakobe81]

its mike browns fault. If they had Avery, they woulda definately got to the ECF. If they had Pop, they woulda went to the Finals. And if they had Jackson, they woulda won it all. True Story.

i dont know if i agree 100% ...beacuse Phil has lost Finals too ...but I agree with the spirit of your post ...

Mike Brown blows chunks!

[Killakobe81]

Who are "they"?

Cleveland has been extremely successful in the playoffs. They made a NBA Finals + 2 conference finals. The other time they were beaten in the 2nd round was by the Celtics who won the championship - and they were the tougher opponent Boston faced and the team that came closer to beat them by far.

In fact, people used to say the exact opposite - that they were a team build for the playoffs because their playoff success was generally greater than the regular season success.

I think Brown has done a good job overall, but his coaching in this series was awful and cost Cleveland the chance of fighting for the series. They were a contender with a coach whose decisions made them a non-contender. I can't recall ever seeing a coaching performance as poor as Mike Brown's in that last series. For that, he should be fired; but in any case, I'm fairly sure he completely lost his team - so he needs to go anyway even if you want to give him another chance.

Great post. But i blame Ferry YES this team under-achieved in the playoffs ...

Ferry brought in Shaq who clogged the lane, Mo who fails in the clutch and added jamison who sucks on defense ...

BUT they over-achieved in the regular season ...so in reality Mike Brown did a GREAT job with this team even though Lebron is the TRUE leader of the team anyway ...

Much like the Celts are led by KG ... Doc is not that great IMHO

Phil & Pop & Riley are the leaders of their teams that is why they have like 18 les between the 3 ...great coaching + transcendant superstar = le more times than not ...

[Giuseppe]

The rub is the Cavs had this in hand at 2-1, forcing the Celtics into a 3 in-a-row, or, a Game 7 in Cleveland proposition. By God they did the 3 in-a-row without blinking an eyelash.

Something happened. Something exact. A pin dropped. Something. It'd be nice to find out what. In the San Antonio debacle a clear regimen developed in Game 2 and it never went away= Spurs 10 point lead, evaporation, slaughter. In the Cleveland debacle a clear regimen never took place from Game 1 thru Game 6. It was dynamic minute to minute, game to game.

[jonnybravo]

LOL Gilbert aint in around, I would be going ape if I invested that much money & got a 2nd round exit out of it.

If that were the case, you'd have turned the entire Mavericks franchise upside down if you were Cuban .

[Giuseppe]

And the Gilbert fellow talks without his lips moving. He's like Edgar Bergen.

[ChrisRichards]

its mike browns fault. If they had Avery, they woulda definately got to the ECF. If they had Pop, they woulda went to the Finals. And if they had Jackson, they woulda won it all. True Story.

[anakha]

But i blame Ferry

Looking at the Cavs' lineup when Ferry came in compared to the lineup today, I'd beg to disagree.

[JoeTait75]

Ferry came in with no premium draft picks, two years (2005, 2007) with no first-round picks at all, and he was under constant pressure to win now... or else. He was under the gun from the start, in one of the toughest positions any GM in any sport has been in IMO. All things considered, he's done a fine job.

You want to blame a GM, blame Jim Paxson. He's the one who spent a tenth-overall pick on Luke Jackson, traded a lottery pick for Jiri Welsch and let Carlos Boozer walk for nothing. As far as I'm concerned those blunders were the killers. The Cavaliers never really got over them.

Ferry does deserve blame for saddling Mike Brown with scorers who couldn't defend (Mo Williams, Antawn Jamison) and undermining his bedrock defensive philosophy. Cleveland's defense in this postseason, even in the wins, was Doug Moe-esque.

[poop]

the cavs and the Spurs both need to be blown up at this point. and dallas as well

[Danny.Zhu]

Spurs need to bring back both Mike Brown and PJ Carlisimo as assistant coaches!

yeah.

[jdev82]

The guy can flat-out coach though and he would probably be a great coach for LeBron. He, though I'm not sure if Phil was at all interested in 2004, coached circles around the Lakers in 2004. Imagine LeBron under that guys' tutelage? >shudders<

i think thats what ppl said when AI started off with LB. they could clash, and like scott skiles, LB has been known to burn out players who wont change for him. who knows tho. id love to see it. what id love to see even more is don nelson coach him, because donnie is in crazy. remember when stephen jackson said some mildly offensive comments about him and then donnie played him for 48 minutes in a preseason game(its true, look it up!) and then promptly traded his ass for nothing. now THATS coaching

[jdev82]

Great post. But i blame Ferry YES this team under-achieved in the playoffs ...

Ferry brought in Shaq who clogged the lane, Mo who fails in the clutch and added jamison who sucks on defense ...

BUT they over-achieved in the regular season ...so in reality Mike Brown did a GREAT job with this team even though Lebron is the TRUE leader of the team anyway ...

Much like the Celts are led by KG ... Doc is not that great IMHO

Phil & Pop & Riley are the leaders of their teams that is why they have like 18 les between the 3 ...great coaching + transcendant superstar = le more times than not ...

yeah doc hasnt shown me anything special. hes a good coach, but its not like he made that team great. he was their coach when they stunk too. its easy to win a ring when you have one of the smartest and most talented cores in the history of basketball. KG PP and RA had a combined 30 years of bb experience. doc was along for the ride while these thirsty mother ers macheted their way to a ring

[jdev82]

Ferry came in with no premium draft picks, two years (2005, 2007) with no first-round picks at all, and he was under constant pressure to win now... or else. He was under the gun from the start, in one of the toughest positions any GM in any sport has been in IMO. All things considered, he's done a fine job.

You want to blame a GM, blame Jim Paxson. He's the one who spent a tenth-overall pick on Luke Jackson, traded a lottery pick for Jiri Welsch and let Carlos Boozer walk for nothing. As far as I'm concerned those blunders were the killers. The Cavaliers never really got over them.

Ferry does deserve blame for saddling Mike Brown with scorers who couldn't defend (Mo Williams, Antawn Jamison) and undermining his bedrock defensive philosophy. Cleveland's defense in this postseason, even in the wins, was Doug Moe-esque.

that, blame lebron. he put pressure on the front office to pull the trigger on trades he wanted, and they didnt work out. the only thing that mightve worked was the J kidd deal that never was. i wouldve killed to see them play together. but old shaq? jamison? mo williams? puh-leeeeeeeze

[milkshakeballa]

Ferry came in with no premium draft picks, two years (2005, 2007) with no first-round picks at all, and he was under constant pressure to win now... or else. He was under the gun from the start, in one of the toughest positions any GM in any sport has been in IMO. All things considered, he's done a fine job.

You want to blame a GM, blame Jim Paxson. He's the one who spent a tenth-overall pick on Luke Jackson, traded a lottery pick for Jiri Welsch and let Carlos Boozer walk for nothing. As far as I'm concerned those blunders were the killers. The Cavaliers never really got over them.

Ferry does deserve blame for saddling Mike Brown with scorers who couldn't defend (Mo Williams, Antawn Jamison) and undermining his bedrock defensive philosophy. Cleveland's defense in this postseason, even in the wins, was Doug Moe-esque.

Joe, how influential was Bron's input on personnel decisions? I have heard it was QUITE influential...with him possibly even being the decision maker.

True?