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^^^Sounds like a sore loser. We will never all be happy with the ending, you must move on, like Jack did.
Was it from The Fuselage? Die hard Lost fans right there.
and i though i didn't like the ending. this is from a LOST site called The Fuselage.
Well, I shouldn’t be here. I loved this episode!
Just kidding suckers. Let’s beat this dead horse.
Mercifully, for the last time...
Let’s recap!
Let's start off with Lindelof and Cuse’s big gimmicky twist that would make M. Night Shyamalan blush. Everyone in the Flash Sideways is in some vague purgatory waiting to realize they’re dead, or waiting for Jack to realize he’s dead, or helping others to realize they’re dead, or some vague dead BS. After flashing back and flashing forward, Lindelof and Cuse decide to flash all the way to dead. It’s cheesy. It’s a cop out. It’s lame. This twist combined with their inability to address many of the questions and plot lines they raised makes Lost a unique failure in TV history.
Sometimes the dead person remembers important people who were in their life, like their father, sometimes they make up people that never existed like a son, and sometimes they forget the people who were important to them… like everyone on the island. Did you seriously expect there to be some kind of coherent rules at this point?
Desmond is still flittering around purgatory helping everyone remember the island and realize that they’re dead… sometimes by setting up elaborate scenarios and sometimes by blunt force trauma. Part grim reaper, part Cupid, part Hulk Hogan = all stupid.
Charlie looks like he’s a skinhead going to a Goths only Halloween party.
Hurley says to Charlie, “What if I told you playing this concert is the most important thing you’ll ever do”. So apparently Charlie has been gothing it up for awhile and couldn’t move on for some reason until now… which just so happens to also be Jack’s time to move on. So you only exist in purgatory and move on once? So Jin and Sun are once again moving on without their kid? I want to kick Jin and Sun’s Lindelofs and Cuses until they can’t speak English.
Charlie is shot with a dart that knocks him out cold in .3 seconds.
Jack took the job because he says the island is “the only thing in my life that I haven’t managed to ruin.” Really? You believe you made the wrong choice in detonating the nuke, you killed Juliet, you wish you could tell John Locke that he was right about everything, and you had a hissy fit and smashed the magic lighthouse mirrors. You suck Jack.
Sawyer has somehow figured out that Locke needs Desmond to destroy the island. He does some fancy recon by crouching behind a bush 20 feet from Locke. Sawyer is caught by Bad Ben. Sawyer escapes by smacking Bad Ben, because everyone smacks Ben, and Locke lets Sawyer walk away and doesn’t kill him because he doesn’t.
Bernard and Rose have been living in Gilligan and Skipper’s hut. Bernard goes to the same hairdresser as Claire. His grooming habits have really gone down the drain but Rose is still sassy just as the law-of-portraying-an-African-American-woman on TV states she must be.
Desmond has a hunch that Locke wants to take him to a place with a bright light because the characters in the finale are really good at guessing the plot. All of their IQs have been dialed up to 80.
Locke tells Desmond that if he doesn’t do what he wants, he’s going to kill Mr. Howe and Lovey. Desmond makes the Smoke Monster pinky swear that he won’t hurt Scruffy and Sassy if he helps destroy the island… which would kill everyone. Bad deal Brotha. Bad deal.
So Locke is taking Desmond to the magic light cave that he previously couldn’t find but now can find.
Miles finds Richard who has been knocked unconscious for what must be 12 hours.
The world’s worst parents are still at the hospital and can’t speak English. Juliet cameo! What a surprise. Sonogram island flashback! Jin remembers the baby he never met, barely loved, and abandoned. We get another dramatic montage. Jin and Sun are all smiles, can speak English, and seem absolutely thrilled to be dead.
Sawyer meets up with Jack, Hurley, and Kate. Jack says that everyone is meeting up at the magic light cave. Sawyer asks, “Then what?” Jack replies, “Then it ends” and loud music from a John Wayne western is heard. Michael Giacchino must be paid per decibel.
Miles somehow notices Richard has a grey hair but doesn’t say a word about the eyeliner.
Lapidus is alive and has been floating around minutes offshore for over a day.
The whole gang bumps into each other on the way to the magic light cave. Jack tells Locke that he’s going to kill him. So much for the element of surprise. Locke says, “How do you plan to do that? Jack says, “That’s a surprise.” Oh, my bad. It is going to be a surprise. Well, Smoke Monsters love surprises because Locke is perfectly fine with all this and doesn’t even ask Jack to whisper the surprise in his ear.
Jack was married to Juliet for some reason in the Neighborhood of Make Believe. I don’t care. I really, really don’t care. Sawyer asks Jack what his plan is. Jack doesn’t really have one but for some reason thinks Desmond is a weapon. Jack is a great leader. And by great I don’t mean great.
Jack, Locke, and Desmond go into the magic cave where the light isn’t as bright as it is outside.
Hurley and Boone have made some elaborate plan to get Sayid and Shannon together and we get another island flashback. It’s tough work in purgatory where you have to get a certain number of people together and help them realize they’re dead in order to help someone else realize they’re dead.
Claire is still crazy and wearing that dead badger on her head.
Someone tell Daniel that hat doesn’t make him look cool. And make him stop talking in hushed halting tones like he’s Keanu Reeves or something. Mercifully we don’t have to hear much of the Driveshaft concert.
Claire goes into labor as Desmond looks on with the smarmy self-satisfied grin often seen from pompous TV show creators.
Desmond is lowered into the cave by Jack and Locke. Jack somehow believes Desmond is going to become a weapon against Locke. Locke somehow believes Desmond is going to sink the island. They each came up with these theories the same way Lindelof and Cuse came up with this plot. They pulled it out of their magic caves.
There are skeletons in the cave of people who didn’t turn into Smoke Monsters and weren’t spit out of the cave.
Now Desmond is in the very bowels of the island and we see a butt plug shaped stone protruding out of the island’s orifice. Although removing the plug is really bad and will destroy everything and do really bad stuff and junk, no one ever thought to cover the plug with more rocks and seal off the cave. If they would have, there would be nothing to protect and live in fear of. Desmond grunts and groans and finally manages to pull the plug free from the island’s hole.
The island starts shaking and going all sorts of crazy. Everything seems to indicate that Locke was right and Jack was wrong, but that doesn’t stop Jack from impulsively tackling the Smoke Monster and punching him in his Smokey mouth. Locke bleeds which of course means that somehow his Smokey powers are gone. Luckily the Smoke Monster-magic light thing doesn’t have to make sense now because it didn’t make sense before. Keep things vague and unexplainable and you don’t have to explain anything. Locke smacks Jack with a rock but leaves without killing him so that Jack can wake up in a few minutes and come after him.
Claire is going into labor but there are no doctors at the fancy museum benefit to deliver her bay-bee. I guess Kate will have to do it. Great.
Eloise somehow knows everything about everything in the real world and in purgatory. But sorry, no more screen time for your story grandma.
Claire craps out one of those cute non-bloody TV babies and we get more of the dramatic flashback crap that will make the audience feel sad and distract them from the countless mysteries the show introduced and dropped. Bah. What mysteries? This is a show about characters. Bah. What plot holes? Who is Walt? Bah. Best finale evah! Bah.
Back on the island the cameraman is shaking the camera around really hard which let’s us know that all is breaking loose.
Ben who may be good or bad now is trapped under a tree. Miles, Lapidus, and Richard are still determined to fly the plane and are welding something to the windshield with a propane torch they bought at the hardware store.
Locke is at some cliffs where he has a boat. Instead of hurrying to the boat, he’s standing around at the ladder waiting for Jack to catch up with him like any good cartoon villain would. Jack yells his name and instead of climbing down the ladder before Jack gets to him, Locke runs at Jack and Jack obligingly runs at Locke. Jack does a slo-mo jump which somehow must temporarily stun Locke because he doesn’t use his knife to stab Jack. Jack smacks Locke and surprisingly his knife goes flying out of this hand.
Now some stuff happens that I’ve never seen before. The knife is loose and they wrestle around trying to get it. The knife is just out of Locke’s reach! The tension builds! Now Locke has the knife. He politely stabs Jack once in the side and pushes him to the ground. Locke brings his arm way back as if to say “Here it comes, I’m going to stab you” but luckily Jack catches Locke’s wrist right before the blade goes into his neck. The blade is right at Jack’s neck! Despite being above him and having all of his weight to push with, Locke can’t quite push the blade down. Locke takes a moment to taunt Jack and say, “I want you to know Jack. You died for nothing.” Just then, Kate pops up, shoots Locke, and delvers the line, “I saved you a bullet”. Jack kicks Locke over the cliff. Goodbye unnamed evil guy with ambiguous super powers acquired in an unknown way. I feel like we hardly knew ye. Mainly because we didn’t.
Meanwhile back in the Dead Zone, Locke wiggles his toes, has his poignant island flashback and realizes that he’s dead.
Jin and Sun meet up with Sawyer at the hospital and are still smiling all goofy and speaking English. Shut up you two.
Miles worked for a contractor renovating apartments for a couple summers so he knows how to fix the hydraulics in the nose of an airplane… with duct tape.
Kate asks why the cameraman is still shaking the camera now that Locke is dead. Jack somehow has figured out that Desmond turned off something in the cave and somehow has figured out that he can turn it back on. Jack could go with everyone on the plane but he can’t because he says he can’t. Kate and Sawyer could help Jack re-butt plug the island but they decide to leave despite being told previously that everyone in the world would die if the butt was unplugged and the light went out. Ben, who is no longer trapped under a tree somehow, and is now Good Ben, has been welcomed back into the moron posse but says he’s going down with the island. Hurley can carry a man out of a sinking sub to save his life but he’s not going to jump off a cliff into the water to save his life. Dude?
Jack and Kate exchange I love yous completely out of the blue… although Jack was married to Juliet in puratory for some reason. Who knows. Whatever. It’s almost over.
Sawyer runs into Juliet in the Land of Misfit Toys and makes me long for the days we watched her dying for an hour and a half.
Sawyer doesn’t ask her what the she meant by “It worked” but they have their romantic flashes and Juliet spits out the line about getting coffee sometime. They embrace, Sawyer works in some “I got yas”, Juliet says, “Kiss me James”, and he complies after delivering the line “You got it Blondie”. I throw up, urinate, crap myself, and lose control of all of my bodily functions. Sorry, I’m allergic to cheesy dialogue callbacks. Don’t judge me.
Kate and Jack meet up in purgatory. Kate touches him, he has an island flashback, and although he’s grown tremendously as a character, is still too stubborn to realize what’s going on.
Back on the island, Jack is going into the cave and is bestowing his magical mojo to Hurley. Jack doesn’t know the magic spell mumbo jumbo and the river is dried up but Hurley drinks water from a magic mud puddle and shazam! Hurley is the new Jacob.
Jack goes into the cave and tells Desmond to leave despite the fact that Desmond is the only one who can survive the light. Logic and reason be damned! Jack is going to do this himself.
The un-flyable plane is now flyable thanks to some magic duct tape and just has enough runway to take off.
Jack somehow manages to survive the magic light, doesn’t turn into a Smoke Monster, and re-butt plugs the island. After all, Lost is about the characters not about silly things like rules, plot consistency, or story logic. Bah. Jack lays on the ground and laugh-cries. A new twist on the old sissy-face man cry.
If only someone special or magical knew that the way to cause the Smoke Monster to lose his power was to pull the plug on the magic drain and then quickly re-plug it, Desmond could have done that long ago.
Hurley and Good Ben have a good chat. Dude asks Ben, “What the am I supposed to do?” Ben tells Dude to do what he does best. Say dude a lot and eat stuff? No, “take care of people”. What people? Hurley asks if Ben will help him. Great idea Dude. What are the chances that Ben will turn bad and screw you over at some point? Hopefully the magic fairies keep dropping those Dharma supplies from their magic fairy spaceships.
Hurley has a heart to heart with Ben in purgatory. Hurley tells Ben he was a great number two. Lost is a great number two. A great big smelly number two.
Jack arrives at the funeral home where everyone else has gathered. He touches his Dad’s coffin and has more island flashbacks. Jack opens the coffin and there is no body. And then it happens… you were force fed one cheesy scene after another for over two hours… here comes a 10 minute enema.
Dear old drunken Dad is actually in the room behind Jack… and he’s dead… and Jack’s dead… and everyone is dead. Lost is dead.
Back on the island, Jack has somehow survived the light cave and somehow has been magically transported out of the cave. As he stumbles through the jungle, everyone in purgatory hugs and sad music plays.
Christian heavy handedly opens a door and a light shines through. On the island, Jack lies down. Vincent lies down beside him and we get a close up of Jack’s eye as it closes. Vincent perks up a bit. He’s hungry. Very, very, hungry.
Horrible.
Last week on the forum someone compared Lost to a bad relationship and I said…
After Sunday I’m breaking things off. I’m going over to her apartment, getting back my CDs and sweatshirt and calling her a dirty .
Well… Lost, you are a dirty . You lied to me, faked it, and probably gave me an STD.
^^^
Was it from The Fuselage? Die hard Lost fans right there.
it was the fuselage and actually that particular site was pretty much thumbs down. as of course are all the "skaters" that were out there. of course their server is down now due to traffic.^^^
Bernard and Rose have been living in Gilligan and Skipper’s hut
I do understand about the flash sideways and I am satisfied with the ending. But I keep thinking about the H-bomb and now I'm convinced that the bomb didn't blow up but instead triggered the flash sideways like someone pointed out. Remember Sawyer was carrying a dead Juliet? He looked at Jack and blamed him for her death. Juliet may have been dead but she was intact, not blown to bits.
I mean obviously the bomb didn't go off in the normal sense - they were all walking around after being like 50 ft from it. It was an Hbomb. LOL
Juliet did fall a long way. That's probably what killed her.
Whatever happened, happened.
Miles was always right. The losties provoked the same event they were trying to prevent. No Jughead, no "Incident" (the Incident being, hitting the pocket of energy AND using Jughead to seal it), no second purpose of The Hatch (releasing the build-up of energy), no 'no hitting the button' for Desmond, no Oceanic 815 crash, no losties, no Locke convincing Desmond not pushing the button, no failsafe, no island not invisible anymore, no 'not Penny's boat', no Ben moving the island, no time flashes, no Locke getting off the island to get everyone back, no Ajira flight, no time travel to 1977, no Jughead.
If I took the same at ude some people have had to this show to any SciFi or Fantasy story it would be amazing.
Well how does the one ring control them all? I mean how does only the fire of Mount Doom destroy it? Oh I see, Tolkien just went to the magic card to explain all of that - what a crock of .
Oh so how exactly does a wormhole in star trek work? Why doesn't everyone just beam everywhere? Oh I see, Gene Roddenberry just went to the future card to explain all of that. What a crock of .
That's how LOST ended? seriously? "They created a place to find each other after they died" That is supposed to be a fitting end to everything that happened? It's bull .
Explain at least SOME of the wacko that was thrown at us for 6 years instead of saying it was all magic, and then they had one last party before they all walked through the doors into heaven and lived happily ever after. I don't understand how anyone can argue that this was a good end to the series.
this is one i agree with more than the first ranting:
and then a few others:OK, so Sun is about 20 weeks pregnant, and yet she's not showing at all and has a nice flat belly when Juliet does the sonogram? Sun and Jin's AHA moment was them seeing baby Ji Yeon on the ultrasound, this is the same baby that they didn't care enough about in the other timeline for Jin to go and raise her? And after their AHA moment, they can both speak English perfectly?
Why exactly can MiB now bleed, because Jacob is totally gone (fire has gone out) or because the bathtub water has drained out? How did Boone remember? In the FS, Jack's neck bleeds, yet his deep lower right quadrant wound doesn't? Not too mention it doesn't bleed very much in the OTL. That was a deep wound and on the same side as the liver, so it should be gushing blood, but hey, whatever, he has to go back and put the plug back in the bathtub so the magic water can start running again.
Those are all the things I can think of off the top of my head at the moment. Like I said, if the ending had been different, I might not have cared much for most of those things I listed above, but that blasted ending ruined everything for me. With 30 minutes to go, I actually was thinking about retracting what I said and buying the S6 Blu-ray, but then that ending came, thankfully it did, because I'll save myself the $50.
This episode almost redeemed the monstrosity that was Season 6. Almost. The first 2 hours was actually pretty good. But the ending ruined it all. The thing that upsets me the most is that it made the entire Flash Sideways utterly pointless. They spent half the time of the Final Season focusing on a meaningless purgatory reality. Instead, they could have focused everything on-islandI have to say, I'm a disappointed. It just felt so unfinished. The Sideways turned into a cop out. Not happy with everyone surviving. And we don't even know what happens to Frank, Kate, Miles, Claire, Sawyer, etc. I don't like that. I honestly feel like the show was better when they didn't have an end date. The writing was more interesting. After season 4, I feel like things started to drag.I mean, that scene in the church has just ruined so much for me. I loved this show. I loved this episode, even. But THAT is the flash sideways?? Why why why why? After all the promises about no purgatory, about the sideways mattering, about the two time lines merging, why did they have to do that to us? UGHSo, after one awesome season and five tedious, glacially paced seasons of "easter egg"-laden, carrot-dangling filler, there is ultimately no explanation for the island, the light, the energy, the numbers -- none of it??? I hope that when the embers from the afterglow burn out fans see the show for what is truly was: a long con.So we missed out on answers because they spent half the season on the after life? What?A little disappointed.
Too much stuff has remained unanswered, stuff that should not be left to viewer interpretation.Lost fans are the most nitpicky, detail-oriented, argumentative bunch out there. On the other, give us a few obviously tailored-to-please scenes of mushy memories and some of us will forget everything else. As long as my favorite character gets a happy ending (that doesn't make sense at all) I don't care what else happens!
I think really that the people who continue to love it no matter what, will simply tailor their view on things to fit whatever situation is at hand. If a scientific theory helps make the show better, then that's what they go with. If on another occasion, ignoring plotholes and saying "it's just a show that entertains" fits the bill, then they will do that.
I for one can't be so wishy-washy. I have to be consistent.
Right now, I think most people are in the latter frame of mind.
I have to like this ending, because liking it will make the show better. If I don't like it, then I will feel like a fool for spending so much time and emotion on it, and who wants to feel like that?I still love Lost,it's still one of the best shows ever,certainly the smartest,but the ending kind of ruined it.I used to think no show could ever top Lost but with that ending another show could.I think I'll still be able to watch Lost but it will be different.It will be harder to invest in the characters which were so important to the show.Ultimately Lost was a character driven show and they let the characters down and in turn let the audience down.Maybe someday watching the show all the way through will make it better,but I'll never be able to watch it quite the same.
The ending killed a large part of the magic that was Lost.
Lost was a wonderful show (up until the last 10 minutes or so) and I'll miss it.It was the smartest ,most creative show I have ever seen (and probably ever will)and it had a wonderful very talented cast.
I really do find it funny the stuff they have trouble with. I really want these people to do a few posts on the LOTR or some other fantasy/sci fi story because I'm sure it would be rather epic.
My favorite are the ones who say the ending ruined it. Oh, has the finale suddenly made it to where you weren't entertained and enthralled through the years you watched the show? Nice!
well for the record, tolkien indicated from the very beginning that the only way to destroy the ring was to cast it back into that from which it was made. evil came from the pits of (or mordor, symbolically) and thus it had to be cast back and only the one who could resist all the temptations along the way could succeed.
Those who say this wasn't a fitting ending missed out on the heart of this show for the past 6 years imo.
Yes but why only the fires of Mt. Doom? Because they were magic? What a cop out! I mean if we read through the entire book don't we deserve to know HOW it destroys it? I'm sorry but that ending totally ruined LOTR for me. Tolkien was just lazy.
i do not see that as the case. they had no problem with the rest of the show up until the very end.
I really do find it funny the stuff they have trouble with. I really want these people to do a few posts on the LOTR or some other fantasy/sci fi story because I'm sure it would be rather epic.
My favorite are the ones who say the ending ruined it. Oh, has the finale suddenly made it to where you weren't entertained and enthralled through the years you watched the show? Nice!
at calling a man who, for the purpose of this book, created his own languages complete with syntax, phonetics and vocabulary as "lazy".
The thing is, LOST was never based in a magical kingdom. It dealt with science not magic, the only thing that was magic the whole series was the black smoke and even that made mechanical sounds. Then at the end to say it was all based on magic and not even attempt to explain all the hundreds of mysteries that served as cliffhangers and major plot twists throughout the entire series is bull .
Tolkein didn't pull a "magic" card, LOL at you even saying that. From the beginning of book one (or at least the Council of Elrond can't remember) you knew in order to destroy the ring you had to toss it into Mt. Doom. That was the whole point of the quest that covered 3 books. Yea it was magic, but that's why you read those books. You didn't watch lost for 6 years just to have them say 2 episodes from the end that it was all magic, it is just bad story-telling and lazy writing
I know man, but the reasons stated that "too many things were unbelievable" and nit picking details that seem unrealistic are a pretty stupid reason (in my opinion) to hate on a show that through its six years has had a ing smoke monsters on a mysterious uncharted island chasing people who see dead people. You'd think that through those six years they would have learned to suspend disbelief just for a second. Did they expect Jacob to explain the laws of physics that make time travel possible and allowed MIB to turn into the black version of a spider man villain?
Jesus Christ you're making my head hurt.
rofl @ Tolkien being lazy...
it was created in mt. doom thus the only place it could be destroyed
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Lost was based on science the same way Star Trek and Star wars are based on science. I completely understand why some of you are butt hurt now. You think smoke monsters are based on science. You know what happens if this series is based on science? THEY ALL ING DIE IN THE PILOT.
LOL.Tolkein didn't pull a "magic" card, LOL at you even saying that. From the beginning of book one (or at least the Council of Elrond can't remember) you knew in order to destroy the ring you had to toss it into Mt. Doom. That was the whole point of the quest that covered 3 books. Yea it was magic, but that's why you read those books. You didn't watch lost for 6 years just to have them say 2 episodes from the end that it was all magic, it is just bad story-telling and lazy writing
There is a line in this thread that has been crossed.
Please leave LOTR out of this.
I agree with the people who are pissed at the lack of explanations, but at the same time I am content with the ending. I dug the Spiritual twist once it sunk in.
LOL Obviously. Thats the way things work in the real world. My bad. Tolkien >>>>>> Lost writers.
For those that say the characters were not the driving force of the show need to go back and watch the series again. Mythology played a large part but the majority of episodes were much more focused on the people. Internet sites were more driven on the details than the actual show was.
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