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    being less skilled.



    shooting: roddy > hill

    man defense: roddy > hill

    ball handling: roddy > hill

    penetration: roddy > hill

    finishing: roddy > hill

    footwork: roddy > hill

    passing: roddy > hill


    this isnt really a skill, but...

    athletic ability: roddy > hill


    hitting wide open shots due to three future HOFs being on the floor at the same time: hill > roddy

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    Roddys footwork (big soccer player) and abilty to finish at the rim are what make him so good. His three point shooting makes him have the potential to be nearly unguardable.

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    Roddys footwork (big soccer player) and abilty to finish at the rim are what make him so good. His three point shooting makes him have the potential to be nearly unguardable.
    I agree, if George Hill would play soccer during the offseason, we would definitely be a championship team next year.

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    Dragic is a better PG.
    Roddy is a better scorer.
    I used to think Hill was better defensively, but he messed the bed in the postseason and hasnt shown lateral quickness...so I'd give the defensive edge to both Dragic and Roddy. All three of them are extremely athletic, though. Dragic is extremely underrated when it comes to athleticism.
    The only real area where Hill has an edge is his composure. Roddy gets kind of wild sometimes and plays too fast for himself and starts overplaying everything. Dragic also has very good composure.

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    Roddys footwork (big soccer player) and abilty to finish at the rim are what make him so good. His three point shooting makes him have the potential to be nearly unguardable.
    So where's the problem - I never took that away from him. He is already an efficient player on offense and a threat to any team.

    Both Hill and Dragic improved drastically the past season on multiple levels. Roddy right now is Jason Terry v2 although with more creativity and efficiency on offense and athletic ability. If he manages to improve his playmaking skills and defense the next season (with hopefully enough playing time) I can second your assumption that Roddy will be the better player with conviction.

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    hitting wide open shots due to three future HOFs being on the floor at the same time: hill > roddy

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    Beaubois >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hill

    I mean it's not even fair...

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    The only real area where Hill has an edge is his composure. Roddy gets kind of wild sometimes and plays too fast for himself and starts overplaying everything. Dragic also has very good composure.
    Yes Roddy showed terrible composure when he set on the bench the first 5 games before finally coming in game 6 in SA with his team down 20 and almost single handedly catching the Mavs up. For a rookie to do that, that shows he has great composure. Remember that when Dragic was a rookie his nerves were all over the place.

    He has tried to overplay sometimes. But for the most part, he handled being jerked around by Carlisle very well.

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    Beaubois >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hill

    I mean it's not even fair...
    If he were consistent, then maybe. All three (dragic, hill and roddy) are great at times but they're too inconsistent to say that one completely outclasses the other.

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    So where's the problem - I never took that away from him. He is already an efficient player on offense and a threat to any team.

    Both Hill and Dragic improved drastically the past season on multiple levels. Roddy right now is Jason Terry v2 although with more creativity and efficiency on offense and athletic ability. If he manages to improve his playmaking skills and defense the next season (with hopefully enough playing time) I can second your assumption that Roddy will be the better player with conviction.
    .

    I have a feeling that, although JJ will finally be getting DNPs, next year JET will be the one holding Roddy back. Carlisle has showed a even bigger man crush on Jet than he did with JJ.

    This is all assuming Roddy isn't with CLE next year, of course.

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    The only real area where Hill has an edge is his composure.
    Really? It's easy to show composure when you only have the ball in your hands to shoot wide open shots that Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker get for you.

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    Yes Roddy showed terrible composure when he set on the bench the first 5 games before finally coming in game 6 in SA with his team down 20 and almost single handedly catching the Mavs up. For a rookie to do that, that shows he has great composure. Remember that when Dragic was a rookie his nerves were all over the place.

    He has tried to overplay sometimes. But for the most part, he handled being jerked around by Carlisle very well.
    Roddy gets kind of wild sometimes and plays too fast for himself
    I never said he wasn't a rookie.
    I never said he wouldnt improve.
    I never said he showed terrible composure.
    All you did was agree with me.

    He's still a rookie, so it's understandable that he'll be a little behind when it comes to remaining composed in big moments. Like dribbling the ball into Ginobili's hands in the 4th quarter of game 6.

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    If he were consistent, then maybe. All three (dragic, hill and roddy) are great at times but they're too inconsistent to say that one completely outclasses the other.
    Except for the fact that Dragic and Roddy actually create and make things happen. Hill just sits in the corner and shoots 3s, or lets someone get into the lane, gets a pass and tosses a wide open floater due to having others create for him. But I haven't seen very much ability from Hill to be able to create for himself, or to create for others.

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    I have a feeling that, although JJ will finally be getting DNPs, next year JET will be the one holding Roddy back. Carlisle has showed a even bigger man crush on Jet than he did with JJ.

    This is all assuming Roddy isn't with CLE next year, of course.
    In a S&T package for LeBron? :P

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    Like dribbling the ball into Ginobili's hands in the 4th quarter of game 6.
    You mean Tony Parker grabbing Roddy's hand and having no foul called, resulting in a turnover? Only a blind like yourself couldn't see that.

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    Except for the fact that Dragic and Roddy actually create and make things happen. Hill just sits in the corner and shoots 3s, or lets someone get into the lane, gets a pass and tosses a wide open floater due to having others create for him. But I haven't seen very much ability from Hill to be able to create for himself, or to create for others.
    you mad.

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    It's impossible to compare these three players right now because of the minute discrepancy. As far as who I think will turn out the best, Dragic = Roddy > Hill. Dragic probably will never be the scorer Roddy is, but Roddy will never be the defender or passer Dragic is. Right now Dragic's growth has been stunted because Barbosa's presence has ed him up. I wanna tear my hair out when I see him settle for 3's and lose complete control of his body, stuff he wasn't doing at all before Barbosa came back.

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    Dragic is better than both of them. Hill and Beaubios are pretty much interchangable.

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    In a S&T package for LeBron? :P
    you know it

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    Really? It's easy to show composure when you only have the ball in your hands to shoot wide open shots that Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker get for you.
    I actually like how Hill handles himself during big moments and important possessions. He's clutch when it comes to late game FT's, midrange J's, and threes. I was honest and gave roddy his props, sorry you want me to blow him.

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    lol 4-2

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    this was a good argument with decent opinions until gray named spurfan showed up.

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    You mean Tony Parker grabbing Roddy's hand and having no foul called, resulting in a turnover? Only a blind like yourself couldn't see that.
    Or like him running full speed into a double team of tony parker and ginobili only to have the ball stripped from him. I dont care if parker caught him with an elbow to the face, why did he dribble into a double team at the 3-point line?

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    this was a good argument with decent opinions until gray named spurfan showed up.
    lol 4-2

    lol roddy beaubois overrated

    lol mavs

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