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Yoni's limited intellect makes a well-known error in logic,
B followed A, therefore A caused B.
St Ronnie was the first battering ram, a stupid, duped tool like dubya, in the capitalist/corporate/conservative oligarchs war to destroy America.
I thought Yoni believed that Reagan brought it down simply because he demanded they bring down their walls?
Yoni's limited intellect makes a well-known error in logic,
B followed A, therefore A caused B.
St Ronnie was the first battering ram, a stupid, duped tool like dubya, in the capitalist/corporate/conservative oligarchs war to destroy America.
Pretty simple thinking there. But, if you take that kernel and build on it; you just might learn a few things.
couldn't stay on subject even a little huh
Our military spending is all on the books somewhere. Most of the secret squirrel stuff gets put in the Airforce budget since their's is so large.
Spending for defense is a government's obligation. Manipulating our energy sector isn't. Also I doubt anything new would have been created. Just a less secure, trained and equipped military.
St Ronnie's military build-up, esp the totally bull , ineffective Missile Defense System, was nothing but a gift of taxpayers' dollars to the MIC. MDA is still screwing taxpayers out several $B/year/.
He also raised payroll taxes while cutting taxes for the wealthy, (which included himself), and sanctioned the war on unions and all employees by firing the air traffic controllers.
USSR was bankrupted of hard US $ by invading and losing in Afghanistan, while USSR's primary source of $$ plummeted due to the collapse of oil prices after the recession of the early 80s.
Look at the price of oil when USSR invaded Afghanistan in 1980, and how it dropped through the decade up to 1989.
USSR couldn't even keep fighting just in Afghanistan, never whatever the St Ronnie was doing to enrich the MIC, or whatever sound bites he was spouting.
ie, St Ronnie was the perfect warrior in the conservative/capitalist class war on the lower 95%.
Captain Obvious.
The question we are asking is, why aren't we scaling back to peace time levels, pre-cold war levels.
We are still spending as if the USSR never fell and we have some imminent threat to American shores.
It was the speech that won the cold war..or so Yoni thinks it did..
"why aren't we scaling back to peace time levels, pre-cold war levels."
a wasteful, bloated, fraudulent, corrupt military budget is how the MIC sucks wealth out of taxpayers pockets. The MIC owns Congress and the Exec. The Repugs, total wimps on national defense (WTC was their fault, Iraq/Afghanistan were their ups), would crucify any serious Exec or Congress people who proposed cutting back military budget.
And the military is ing useless also, $1T available, they can't beat a bunch of ing ragheads after 10 years of trying.
agree with everything but your final sentence.
Our military did a fine job and annihilated the conventional Iraqi military.
What's left now is just regular people, terrorists/freedom fighters/rebels who look like everyday Joe Schmoe's and hide among the populace.
There is no way to defeat that unless you take the gloves off and ignore crimes against humanity. We don't do that...
"the conventional Iraqi military"
... bull , the feared/hyped Iraqi military were under-equipped, had no air power, and were not willing to die for Saddam, much like they turned tail and ran in the first Gulf War, to be slaughtered while they were retreating.
You do know thousands of Americans died too. Sure you do, you ing idiot. And lets not forget we are still there thanks to the broken promises of Obama. Change and hope noone can believe in but keep supporting him bag. Keep spewing hate and stupidity.
"You do know thousands of Americans died too"
and you refuse to admit those 1000s of US and other lives were wasted in the Repug/neo-c*nts bogus Iraq war-for-oil. GFY
You refuse to admit Obama has continued that legacy. You are a fraud.
Boutons just mad that St. Ronnie descended from the heavens and brought down the walls like Jericho.
We've all had this conversation before.
The Soviets were in financial trouble when Reagan took office. Through an increase in the arms race ( and, when combined with tax cuts, a huge increase in the the US debt), we spent money that the USSR tried to match in order to match the arms build-up, and in so doing, finished off the process of bankrupting themselves. The USSR's war in Afghanistan helped the bankruptcy problem.
This left the US with a huge national debt, which Bush 41 tried to address by acceeding to a tax increase, which resulted in him being abandoned by the Republican base in the next election.
Also during Bush 41, the US led an international coalition of nations in the first Gulf War, which resulted in a semi-permanent presence of US forces in Saudi Arabia, which pissed off Arab fanatics ( like Al Qaeda) because 'infidels' were in their holy places.
Enter Bill Clinton, who increased taxes again, losing control of both houses of Congress in 1994, and presiding over a drop in military spending (encouraged by the Republicans in both houses of Congress) due to the 'peace dividend' that was supposed to follow the end of the cold war.
The first budget surpluses since before FDR were in the last two years of the divided government that was characteristic of the last 6 years of the Clinton administration.
The Republican campaign in 2000 ran on a campaign of "the fact that there is a budget surplus is proof that the government is keeping too much of your money". (No mention of paying down debt with the surplus, which Clinton and Gore had suggested).
Enter Bush 43...reduced taxes, and 9/11, which was blamed on Clinton because he had "let the country's military preparedness decline" (remember the decreased spending by the divided government due to the 'peace dividend?).
Result? United government in both the executive and legislative branches under Republican control that by reducing revenues and increasing military expenditures, never had a balanced budget (even though the war spending was never part of the budget) and increased the national debt by a factor of about 2...and finished with the worst financial collapse in recent memory.
Result? United government under Democratic control of executive and legislative branches which AGAIN reduced taxes (remember that a huge part of the stimulus was a tax cut) and continued both wars and increased domestic spending.
Result? Worst debt as a percent of GNP since WWII.
So, who's gonna fix it?
Link to where I refuse to admit Magic Negro is continuing dubya's ups, rather than fixing them?
Two years exactly? Did he say that his speech would take down the wall in exactly two years?
If it had been one more day until the fall, would the speech still get credit?
Quite a but. I can excuse most of his spending because it was 9/11 related, Katrina related, etc.
I cannot excuse the excess of social spending Obama is doing. There is absolutely no excuse for it. This is something that is next to impossible to stop spending on once implemented. We cannot sustain these rates of spending. Wars end and so do disasters.
You can excuse lying about Iraq and forcing us into that war? It's easily the most expensive endeavor for the USA in a long time.
You are under the false premise he knew things weren't quite as they thought they were.
How can anyone have a reasonable debate with someone like you who refuses to see the truth, and boldly claim he lied when there is no evidence he may have just thought it to be true..
I'd like to see you try. Seriously, instead of parrying all comers aside on crypto-rationalist grounds before the melee. That'd be a hoot. You should start doing that, WC.
That MH's opinions so clearly outdo yours in both pungency and crudity proves nothing at all as to yourself, excepting your demonstrated tendency to cling to the forums' extremer examples for self-serving contrast. JMO.
why would you have the US withdraw irresponsibly jack? is that what you want?
there is outrage over negotiations not being on c-span yet utter silence on why we started a war... not a peep from the right on the many contradictory reasons why we had to rush into war.. yet they are still stuck on teleprompters..amazing
Son, US military will never leave Iraq. Wake up.
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