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    The 66% FT average means he would fit right in immediately with a team that can't shoot free throws.

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    Actually, that's pretty much the definition of an opinion, since for the entirety of 2008-2009, Tony blew away Manu's production on a daily basis. Words are fun. You should look them up before using them.

    On the Big Contract: I'm not saying he is shooting for a huge contract, but answer me this: why wouldn't he be?
    You're right. He's an all-star PG. Shouldn't he shoot for a big salary?

    He is worth more than the Spurs would likely be willing to pay him. Thats common sense.
    Unless you've suddenly developed some kind of strange relationship with Buford or Holt, who are you to say what's common sense about how much the Spurs organization will be willing to give Tony?

    I'm simply giving reasons as to why we we may be shopping Tony, but one thing I believe is that with Tony's name being kicked around like it is, there is no doubt that he is being shopped. Your part of the blinder crew.
    Obviously Parker is being shopped. Just like Manu was being shopped last year. Where were you when his production was in the toilet and we were in danger of not even making the playoffs?

    Fact? Those were ING QUESTIONS, , how the am I stating them as fact? Your cred is because you're reading comp is 4th grade level.
    "2. Are the Spurs aware that Tony will be demanding too much on his next contract?"

    Was your initial comment. This is a statement within a question, since the question is already attempting to assert it as fact that Tony will be seeking too much in his contract.

    If I asked, "Is Spurstalk aware that you don't know the difference between fact and opinion?" it would be both a question and a statement, since the question hinges upon the idea that you have problems comprehending the differences between a fact and an opinion as a substantive, verifiable conclusion.

    The problem with your question is it contains a fallacy with no ability to assert itself as substantive. This invalidates your question and makes the statement within it subject to criticism. If I asked Spurs_Fan_In_Exile, "Hey, how do you feel about the 400 rabid monkeys in your house?" there is a pretty good chance he would not immediately take it as a question that's answerable, because it contains an assertion with no merit (at least, that's what he thinks ).

    In short: Don't phrase things in an extremely poor manner, and then get flustered when people aren't in a rush to agree with what you say. Insulting me doesn't help your case, it just makes it readily apparent that what I'm saying is hitting a nerve and you can't deal with it rationally.

    And yet again, you prove you cant read by misconstruing my statement on replacing Duncan, then putting some words in my mouth about the draft.
    No, I just asked you to name a big we could get for Tony right now who would actually be worth it. I'm waiting.

    Read it again...it will take several players to replace tim. Tony's worth helps acquire help in the frontcourt.
    Who would be worth trading for?

    I'm not going to re-read every one of my posts to your special ed ass...pick it up or shut the up.
    Meltdown after my first response. Nicely done.

    Its always a reaction to jack-ass Tony Parker die hards.
    Please show me where a TP "die-hard" posted in the thread before you. All I see is random speculation about what's going on before you come in, full guns blazing about how much TP sucks.

    Tony as a player works out fine either way. But I, like many, would prefer size and a servicable point to a scoring point and the bigs we have now.
    Who? Or are you taking the approach BP is using to the oil cleanup? "We HAVE to do something... wait... you want ideas? Don't look at me!"
    Last edited by Cry Havoc; 06-15-2010 at 10:08 AM.

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    i see what you did there

    lol people thinking that tony gets traded for unproven garbage. tony's done way too much for the organization. tell em CH, tell em.

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    No one ever comes out and says who'll be replacing Parker at PG if he gets traded.

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    No one ever comes out and says who'll be replacing Parker at PG if he gets traded.
    Or what big we could possibly hope to acquire.

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    who cares? let the chips fall where they must.

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    This trade is definitely doable in my opinion. We get super Bonner, Brandon Rush, and supposedly a dinosaur. I love dinosaurs. This is going to be such a steal of a trade.

    For our future PG, if Temple could grow another 3 more inches, he would be Magic Johnson with a 3 point shot. This is a good deal, no question.

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    This trade is definitely doable in my opinion. We get super Bonner, Brandon Rush, and supposedly a dinosaur. I love dinosaurs. This is going to be such a steal of a trade.

    For our future PG, if Temple could grow another 3 more inches, he would be Magic Johnson with a 3 point shot. This is a good deal, no question.


    Could it be this guy, perhaps?


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    Could it be this guy, perhaps?

    Seems quite comparable.



    Yep, a dinosaur.

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    Perhaps to you. I believe that the Spurs may very well be willing to pay him what he his worth. Parker and the Spurs may disagree as to that number, but negotiations haven't started yet.
    Honestly, if Parker and the Spurs can agree on a figure, we are a better team for it. We are better with him than without him. But, we are also facing a sharp cliff when Timmy leaves, which may be another reason Parker is traded.

    As for 2008-2009 Parker, I honestly still believe he was a good player on a bad team. Looking back, we had Finley starting and he was one year out of retirement. We had RMJ all season, and he was one year from having to scrounge for a spot somewhere in the league. We featured matt bonner, who...well, need I say more...

    Without Gino, Parker had tons of opportunity, but for all of Parker's scoring, we were still an inferior team. And to be fair, a Parker led Spurs team traded buckets with teams all season. The Spurs D went in the tank. We couldn't even win two games in the playoffs. Tony Parker on the 2008-2009 Spurs was equivalent to Phoenix Suns brand play, which is why I never bought into the scoring Parker. Give me a facilitating Parker who is still willing to dig in on D any day...

    On the other hand, Gino took the guys around him and made them better all season. And if Georgie continues to improve, there is no reason Manu cant play point in my opinion.

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    The Spurs are killers in the draft. If Tony goes for picks, I trust our front office to continue the trend. There is no precedent for assuming we will wind up with unproven garbage.

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    Who is to say that the Spurs dont see Manu transitioning to point as his game slows in this last contract?

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    Honestly, if Parker and the Spurs can agree on a figure, we are a better team for it. We are better with him than without him. But, we are also facing a sharp cliff when Timmy leaves, which may be another reason Parker is traded.

    As for 2008-2009 Parker, I honestly still believe he was a good player on a bad team. Looking back, we had Finley starting and he was one year out of retirement. We had RMJ all season, and he was one year from having to scrounge for a spot somewhere in the league. We featured matt bonner, who...well, need I say more...

    Without Gino, Parker had tons of opportunity, but for all of Parker's scoring, we were still an inferior team. And to be fair, a Parker led Spurs team traded buckets with teams all season. The Spurs D went in the tank. We couldn't even win two games in the playoffs. Tony Parker on the 2008-2009 Spurs was equivalent to Phoenix Suns brand play, which is why I never bought into the scoring Parker. Give me a facilitating Parker who is still willing to dig in on D any day...

    On the other hand, Gino took the guys around him and made them better all season. And if Georgie continues to improve, there is no reason Manu cant play point in my opinion.
    How big will Parker's contract be?

    Who are we going to trade him for?

    What big is worth getting to replace Duncan?

    Who will run point when Manu needs to rest or gets injured again?

    You seem to have all the answers without saying anything, P2112. I and several other posters have asked you several questions that you've repeatedly ducked so far. Are you going to answer or just continue to insist that Tony must be moved for "the next Tim Duncan"?

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    ill rather have ian than him

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    Well the Spurs have always been known to make their intentions clear to the league. Everyone knew we were going to take Parker, Manu, Ian and Hill so it makes sense that they would release this info.

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    Ah no!

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    How big will Parker's contract be?

    Who are we going to trade him for?

    What big is worth getting to replace Duncan?

    Who will run point when Manu needs to rest or gets injured again?

    You seem to have all the answers without saying anything, P2112. I and several other posters have asked you several questions that you've repeatedly ducked so far. Are you going to answer or just continue to insist that Tony must be moved for "the next Tim Duncan"?
    I AM SPECULATING AS TO WHY HE'S ON THE BLOCK. NOTHING MORE. Think, McFly.

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    I AM SPECULATING AS TO WHY HE'S ON THE BLOCK. NOTHING MORE. Think, McFly.
    Manu was our saviour over the regular season. Tony was hurt, but on his best day, he could have never brought what Gino was doing night after night. Thats ing fact.
    You have an odd method of speculation.

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    How big will Parker's contract be?

    Who are we going to trade him for?

    What big is worth getting to replace Duncan?

    Who will run point when Manu needs to rest or gets injured again?

    You seem to have all the answers without saying anything, P2112. I and several other posters have asked you several questions that you've repeatedly ducked so far. Are you going to answer or just continue to insist that Tony must be moved for "the next Tim Duncan"?
    Duncan cant be replaced, dumbass. We need to take the same approach that the two teams currently playing in the finals have taken: an array of players with size and varied skillsets. The way I see it, we have only Blair, Tim and Dice. If Tiago comes, I think that: 1. we start running out of cap to cover Tony's next contract, and 2. we are still one big away from competing for a championship.

    And this doesn't even begin to address our roster once Tim and Dice gone (1-2 years for Dice; 3 years or less for Tim).

    The Lakers seem to be doing alright with a great frontcourt and a serviceable point. And Rondo has been developed in a short time. If Manu buys some time, I think we can load our frontcourt with no falloff.

    Who can we get? I dont think we need a blockbuster, I think we need to keep adding talent on the cheap.

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    You have an odd method of speculation.
    I assumed you were just an asshole, which I still think, but now I understand you are an asshole who doesnt adhere to reason...maybe you just dont have any reasoning ability of your own?

    These types of assholes are the worst.

    Put down the iphone, havoc, someone needs a large order of fries on register two.

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    Yeah, another undersized PF is just what we need.

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    I assumed you were just an asshole, which I still think, but now I understand you are an asshole who doesnt adhere to reason...maybe you just dont have any reasoning ability of your own?

    These types of assholes are the worst.

    Put down the iphone, havoc, someone needs a large order of fries on register two.
    Full meltdown in progress. Hilarious.

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    This is some really good news, IMO; and Bruno nailed it with a spectacular selection of imagery.

    There definitely seems to be a fire producing the majority of this smoke but the Ed Davis rumor has to be some additionally manufactured.

    Why would the Spurs ever tip their hand about whom they're trying to move up to get? Whom in their organization would ever let slip their true target at such a crucial time? No, this is a smokescreen. The Spurs must simply want others to believe that's who they're targeting so the player they're after will be there at 10; if other teams caught wind of who they were high on it could sway a team ahead to scoop him up and those behind to trade in front.

    Everybody and their mother expected the Spurs to target a wing in this draft but all we've heard about are Bigs. Maybe there's some validity to it. Maybe there's a prospect they're really high on to bolster their front court. Maybe. But then again, maybe not . . .

    This is the Spurs, people!

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    Full meltdown in progress. Hilarious.


    parker, QFT. you give your opinions and say they're facts. CH points out that they're opinions, and you try to flame him over it.

    come on son. name the PG to replace parker then. you really want two undersized PFs on the team? not enough room in the paint for that. and blair's enough for that.

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    Full meltdown in progress. Hilarious.
    You hit my sweet spot trick. That sweet spot being twisting my words and putting words in my mouth. Then I just realized you dont read so good.

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