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Murphy is very underrated. Him being able to spread the floor gives Tim room. Without Tim Spurs are nothing. Why do you think Bonner and Horry played so much???
Get a clue
We wouldn't have beaten the mavs if Jim Carrey had played Beabois throughout the whole series, either.
Murphy is very underrated. Him being able to spread the floor gives Tim room. Without Tim Spurs are nothing. Why do you think Bonner and Horry played so much???
Get a clue
I second. Foolish to trade 1 of the two decent point guards in the team; unless they do a blockbuster and get a durable star in return.
If you think about it, it is a rebuilding process as the players coming in are the ones they want to help build around as Tim and Manu eventually retire in a couple of seasons.
Paul needs athletic bigs who can finish his myriad of dump offs and alley oops to get the max effectiveness out of him.
Duncan and his 2 inch vertical does not fit with Chris Paul's game in any way, shape or form.
If Chad Ford thinks they would do this to rebuild the he's out of his mind. As long as Tim Duncan is playing there is no rebuilding process for the front office.
When the dust settles and the smoke clears or whatever I don't think tony parker or george hill will be traded, but just in case I got on trade machine and went through picks 2-11 and found trades with each team that are somewhat realistic and I would be happy with. I believe there are only a couple of players I would trade either for if the price is right.
Pick #2: Spurs trade Tony Parker, #20, 2011 1st, 2013 1st and Antonio Mcdyess to 76ers for #2, Elton Brand and Lou Williams
Spurs get the young athletic big they are looking for in Favors and a backup point without giving up Splitter. 76ers get rid of Brand's contract and get Tony Parker who would thrive in the Eastern Conference giving the 76ers a player they can build around. They also get a boatload of draft picks for now and the future. If they can clear enough cap space by the July, 1, 2011 maybe they can make a run at Carmelo Anthony or Kevin Durant.
Pick #3: Spurs trade Tony Parker, #20, 2011 1st, and 2013 1st to Nets for #3, Devin Harris and Keyon Dooling
Spurs once again get Favors and can leave Hill at 2-guard because of Harris. Nets get Tony Parker who could entice a top free agent to come to New Jersey. Also a boatload of picks.
Pick #4: Spurs trade Tony Parker, Dejuan Blair, Rights to Splitter, 2011 1st to T-Wolves for #4, Al Jefferson, Ramon Sessions and Pick #23
Spurs get very skilled big man in Al Jefferson and can choose between Wesley Johnson, DeMarcus Cousins and Greg Monroe with Pick #4. T-wolves get rid of Jefferson who is causing problems and pick up two talented big men. They also get Parker giving them all the point guards they could ever want.
Pick #5: Spurs trade Tony Parker to Kings for #5, Beno Udrih, Francisco Garcia, and Pick #33
Spurs get whoever is left out of Cousins, Johnson, and Monroe. Kings can move Evans to 2-guard and get rid of bad contracts.
Pick #6: Spurs trade Tony Parker, 2011 1st to Warriors for #6, Corey Maggette, and Anthony Randolph
Spurs get to draft the last remaining out of Monroe, Cousins, and Johnson. They also get a scorer in Maggatte and a talented young big in Randolph. Warriors get parker and Don Nelson gets to stick it to the League, the Mavs, and the Lakers on his way out the door.
Pick #7: Spurs trade George Hill, Antonio Mcdyess, and #20 to Pistons for #7, Jason Maxiell, and Jonas Jerebko
I admit this trade doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but pistons need a true point and maybe they believe Hill can be that guy. They can move Stuckey to 2-guard and get Mcdyess back who produced better than Maxiell. Spurs get young talent and draft either Ed Davis, Ekpe Udoh, or Cole Aldrich.
Pick #8: Spurs trade George Hill to Clippers (Use Camby Trade Exception) for #8, and #54.
Once again makes no sense. Spurs draft whoever is left out of Davis, Udoh, and Aldrich. Clippers get someone who can play for Davis while he spends the season in a suit which is destin to happen.
Pick #9: Spurs trade George Hill and Dejuan Blair to Jazz for #9, Ronnie Price, Sundiata Gaines, and Pick #55
Not going to happen, but whatever. Spurs pick last remaining out of Davis, Udoh, and Aldrich. Jazz would put Hill at 2-guard and replace Boozer with Blair. Jazz get to laugh at spurs for years for making the deal.
Pick #10: Spurs trade George Hill, Antonio Mcdyess, Malik Hairston, and #20 to Pacers for #10, Roy Hibbert, Brandon Rush, and Dahntay Jones
To me this trade makes sense. Spurs get a lot of young talent at multiple positions. They might actually draft a 3 if this happened instead of a big and would have their choice of the litter with Paul George, Xavier Henry, Gordon Heyward, or whoever else they like. Patrick Patterson might be perfect for the spurs here. Pacers get hometown star/hero Hill making money while saving money by trading back.
Pick # 11: Spurs trade Tony Parker, Antonio Mcdyess, Malik Hairston, #20, 2011 1st, and 2013 1st to the Hornets for #11, Chris Paul, James Posey, and Julian Wright.
Spurs get an upgrade at point guard and whoever they like most with pick #11. If the Hornets don't believe they will be able sign Chris Paul in a couple of years now could be the time to trade him. They may not be able to resign Parker either, but at least they get a head start on rebuilding. They get a boatload of picks in order to do so and can trade parker at the trade deadline in february for more future potential.
What do you guys think? Do any of these trades sound reasonable? If Tony Parker/George Hill really are on the block you have to at least explore the possibilities.
Um What do you call Blair, Hill, Harryston, Gee and Temples?
They are already in the transitioning stages, only they still have their core.
It's in progress already as we speak, but we are also still contenders.
Get a clue
Basically. Whatever move they do will be something they genuinely believe gives them a better shot at winning No. 5 with Tim. Sans that, nothing else makes much sense.
They're trying to reload on the fly, not look to rebuild for the future . . .
Blair? I call that getting extremely lucky. Why would they not pick him? Its not like they went out of their way to trade up for him. The Spurs made no move in particular to get Blair. He fell into their laps.
In fact the same thing happened with Hill.
When the Spurs make moves specifically to acquire better draft picks by trading away talent and unloading large contracts then they will be in rebuilding mode.
So next time before you tell me to get a clue maybe you should know what the you're talking about. God damn I hate some of you new idiots so much. You've ruined the out of this board.
No you just don't know a . You really need to get a clue.
I've been a Spurs fan for the past 3 years after the Suns and Pacers disssapointed me and I'm aware with what is going on. You obviously don't.
You think Spurs aren't rebuilding, well newsflash tough guy. The transition is already started on the fly even while they are in contention..
Its happening and thats a fact..
So yeah you really need to get a clue.
Oh , 3 years. My bad. Carry on my friend. You've proven yourself here.
No you have proven yourself with horrible opinions.
" SPURS aren't rebuilding...
GTFO
It has started already. That is reality...
I guess post counts don't really matter after all. Mr. 34 thousand
read it online at work today
Apparently it was a David Kahn attempt at lowering Favors' value to let him fall off Top 3 and try to get him at 4. Thats the consensus everywhere. The Nets meanwhile love him after seeing him play simultaneously with Cousins. Cousins seems to have a good long mid-range as well, but Favors' has tremendous low post upside and athletic ability.
The Mandatory link - http://netsarescorching.com/2010/06/...errick-favors/
Guess not. Well played bro. Well played.
What do you call Blair, Hill, Mahinmi, Harry, Temple and Gee then?
Well by your logic every team is rebuilding because they have draft picks. I call them late round picks and scouring the D league. Do you remember when the Spurs traded a big player to get one of those you mentioned?
Yeah, neither do I.
Maybe after watching the Spurs for another 3 whole years you'll understand what the difference between using late round picks that everyone gets and rebuilding is.
June 21st, 2010 at 2:44 PM
This is what Favors said today;
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Favors admitted that the story out of Minnesota, about him being out of shape, had some truth to it.
“I’m not in the best shape,” Favors said. “I’m not in game shape. But I’m in good workout shape where I can push through my workout. I just took as it a criticism. .. .It was a good criticism.”
-I don't believe this at all, I would be extremely surprised..not out of logic or anything, but the Spurs are always heavily involved in off-season rumors, and the rumors rarely come through..
-There isn't really a scenario I can see where the Spurs would get good value for Parker..the 10th pick in the draft is not good value..I fully understand that Parker will be demanding a lot of money and will most likely see a decline in the next few years, but the Spurs plan is to win right now, and having Parker on the team is the best way to win right now, unless some mind-blowing offer hits the Spurs..
-Hill and Blair are extremely overrated on SpursTalk, especially Hill, so I wouldn't mind seeing them moved for the right offer..
-I will be extremely angry if the Spurs take the Indiana deal..Murphy is a horrible defender and would add to an already-slow frontcourt..Rush doesn't really have much potential left IMO..getting Devin Harris would upset me as well, unless the #3 is involved, which would be stupid for NJ..I haven't really heard any other rumors..
Spurs don't have to go into total tank rebuild mode you moron.
They are doing the rebuilding process on the fly. The smart way, the way you aren't aware of because you think rebuilding is getting rid of everything.
That is a fact..
You really need to pay more attention.
No but Chad Ford is talking about them going into total rebuilding mode so thats what we're talking about. Are you so ing dense and illiterate that you can't even follow the posts in the thread you're posting in?
Really? I need to pay attention?
God damn why am I responding to someone who's probably trolling me.
(If you're a troll 8/10 good job - the 3 years touch was gold)
Who the are these new guys acting like know it alls... WTF?!?!?
Chad Ford is assuming the Spurs are going into total rebuilding mode, but that is not a fact with Manu and Tim strapped up with the Spurs for the next 2 years at least. Trading Parker for top 5 pick that can help now and for the future as well to team up with the young core of Hill, Harriston, Blair, Mahimmi Gee and Temples is rebuilding on the fly, not totally rebuilding.
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