Yea, Indiana was getting bashed from all cylinders for this yesterday when news of this came out.
But you do bring up a good point here. If this involve us though, I would be a little unhappy as the "advertised" offer given to us would suck balls!
beasley's been better than thompson, randolph, and gordon.
the other 4 have been better thus far, but that draft is proving to be a much deeper one that originally thought.
beasley, despite the inconsistencies, has still had 2 above average NBA seasons before his 22nd birthday. he'll never be the franchise player of a championship team (i doubt any of the guys you mentioned will be either) - but I expect him to settle into Lamar Odom with a jump shot. And that's NOT a bust.
T-Wolves turn down Pacers offer of the 10th pick for PG Jonny Flynn.
http://twitter.com/Wells222/status/16717504409
Even if he's been marginally better, would you still take him over those guys regardless of draft position? Oh and he definitely hasn't been better than Eric Gordon.
He was the #2 pick and he doesn't have a clear position on the floor.beasley, despite the inconsistencies, has still had 2 above average NBA seasons before his 22nd birthday.
Westbrook, Mayo, Gordon, and Lopez all have so much more potential.he'll never be the franchise player of a championship team (i doubt any of the guys you mentioned will be either)
Only he's not as long and doesn't rebound. He's a bust as the #2 pick.- but I expect him to settle into Lamar Odom with a jump shot. And that's NOT a bust.
He's been better than Gordon, just not quite as much PT - but the per 36 and PER numbers are better.
Beasley's rebounding has been hurt by having to split time at the 3. He'll find some success - whether that's a rich man's Lamar Odom or a poor man's Chris Bosh - when he is played exclusively as a slightly undersized 4. The guy led the NCAA in rebounding his first year in it. Rebounding USUALLY translates well to the next level - so I'm not ready to write him off on that just yet. 8 boards/36 isn't awful.
If he's settles into an efficient 18/9 - not an outlandish prediction for a guy who is a fairly efficient 15/6.5 as a 21 year old - there's nothing wrong with that. Maybe a little disappointing for the #2 pick in a deep draft - but under no cir stances is that indicative of a bust. If you're going to label Beasley as a "bust", a word that usually brings to mind guys like Olowokandi, Bowie, and Milicic, then we just need to retire the term because it's far too broad to be a worthy identifier.
Last edited by K-State Spur; 06-22-2010 at 03:38 PM.
Is this trade final?
as deep of a draft as this is, thats a good trade for the T-Wolves.
I don't see the benefit of trading a Parker or Hill and continually opening up needs.
Trading up to 12 makes sense if George is still available. Even in the event that Babbitt were, I wouldn't do it. I don't think he has enough upside to warrant giving up what it would take (probably a future 1st in addition to 20) to move up 8 spots. I'd rather take Williams at 20 and not have to give up another asset(s).
If we got a lottery pick, why the would we use it to draft a Big Man? Am I the only one that sees this. We have Splitter coming over to start, and Blair is probably getting more minutes off the Bench, so why the would we draft another Big Man?
Not to mention Iah Mahinmi, who we might re-sign. All this Favors-Cousins-Aldrich talk doesn't make sense.
this sunday CP3 will be @ Paris for the streetbasketball contest "LE QUAI 54"
http://vimeo.com/9697473 I will try to talk with him and IF TP isnt traded yet...i will say him ASK A TRADE TO SAN ANTONIO!!! you and tim are from wake forest and you will get your ringS there!!!
Re is on radio again if anyone wants to listen in and update us on any news
chadfordinsider
On Mike & Mike this morning at 7:10 a.m. ET to talk NBA Draft. Here's the link to both radio & video http://es.pn/LW0fe
http://twitter.com/chadfordinsider
If you know a guy isn't going to re-sign next year and/or you're not going to pay him what he wants to stay, wouldn't you make sure you got something for him?
That no. 10 pick is really expensive if it's somewhere between Tony Parker and Johnny Flynn. It's worth more than Flynn but certainly not as much as Parker.
Edit: Read this backwards. I wonder how good Minnesota thinks Flynn is.
Last edited by Mr. Body; 06-23-2010 at 08:52 AM.
Interesting. I hope this is not true but if it is we might as well get something back for him. I would hate to lose him though.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/basket...list-1.2045510
The Knicks have explored a few options, including Spurs point guard Tony Parker, who has told confidants that he would like to be traded if San Antonio goes with George Hill as the starter....
A couple of years ago, the NJ Nets fleeced the Mavs in the Jason Kidd trade. The Nets obtained several players AND two 1st round picks in non-consecutive years. Obviously, J-KIdd is a highly-decorated, HOF-bound PG. However, TP is a 3-time NBA champion, former NBA Finals MVP and is likely bound for the HOF himself. He's also still in his prime.
While Parker is a different PG than Kidd, he has undoubtedly been a very a great player for the Spurs and a very integral part of the Spurs championship run.
My point is TP has a ton of value. He's in mid-career, has championship experience and is still in his prime. If the Nets got that much for Kidd, the Spurs should at least be able to at least get the Nets top pick this year, a really good current player from their roster, and possibly another pick in next year or a later year. All the while, retaining their own #20 pick. It just makes sense.
might be true he wants to start in his contract yearInteresting. I hope this is not true but if it is we might as well get something back for him. I would hate to lose him though
http://www.newsday.com/sports/basket...list-1.2045510
The Knicks have explored a few options, including Spurs point guard Tony Parker, who has told confidants that he would like to be traded if San Antonio goes with George Hill as the starter....
I think he wants to start
I do not think he minds playing with hill though
hill and tp work well together outthere
The ONLY scenario that I have seen that even remotely makes any sense is the Nets' #3 pick and Devin Harris.
If those alleged comments are true from Parker, it makes me believe that something IS going to transpire on that front. I really don't want to see either Hill or Parker go. However if I had to choose between them, it'd be Hill. The reason being is because Parker's contributions and importance to this team are far too monumental to replace. However, the money situation, and impending free agency, surrounding Parker would dictate that HE would be the likely trade chip.Interesting. I hope this is not true but if it is we might as well get something back for him. I would hate to lose him though
http://www.newsday.com/sports/basket...list-1.2045510
The Knicks have explored a few options, including Spurs point guard Tony Parker, who has told confidants that he would like to be traded if San Antonio goes with George Hill as the starter....
Again, if these comments are true, it's becoming obvious that one of them needs to be moved. In Parker's defense, I can see his point. As such an accomplished player, he shouldn't have to defer his starting role to anyone.
It's time to pass the torch to Hill. He will have ups and downs like TP did in the beginning, but the time has come. Although injured last year a bit, TP's game style is easier for teams to defend nowadays. Players are faster and more athletic. I have finally convince myself Spurs need to part with him.
LMAO..............what? Trade a player that you KNOW what he can do.........still in his prime? and keep a player who may have played his best already....or may not have? That is too big of a gamble. Tony is an all-star, that is why everyone who needs a point want him. He has TORCHED these teams in the past with his quickness and drives to the basket.
and duncan will be gone
that is why trading tp has to be for a very good piece RIGHT NOW
Tick. Tock.
I almost can't make myself come to the site these last couple of days, since I'm half-expecting the Spurs to make a move that would make the Scola give-away seem like nothing in comparison.
Oh no...more fanning of the flames to the inevitable ST Manu v. Tony argument
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