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exactly, joe johnson doesn't give us what we would need. pretty much only wade or james does. it was time to rebuild after 2007.
joe johnson as the missing piece to contending against the lakers?
get real.
exactly, joe johnson doesn't give us what we would need. pretty much only wade or james does. it was time to rebuild after 2007.
well, roddy should be a lock in any plans for the mavs. the idea of trading him for something that makes you even slower, is nuts.
yeah if we give up roddy then i just renounce being a mav fan or even an nba fan and just go watch ncaa. i'm tired of the mavs pathetic failures combined with the idea of a somewhat rigged league, i think i need a break.
Seriously they need to just face the music and start over. With the Lakers still dominating, and the possibility of two super teams out East, we have a less than 0% chance at winning it all.
As it stands we're probably like the 7-8th best team in the NBA and there's gonna be a HUGE gap between 3 and 4. As a Mavs fan we've already been close to the top, so if our team can't realistically win a championship with this same core we need to start over.
It would be one thing if we were a team like Charlotte and we were on the rise but we are obviously on the decline and we're just holding out hope that just isn't realistic anymore.
He'd do more to beat the Lakers than Roddy Beaubois would.
Yeah but did he give you any fashion advice? How did his facial features compare to yours?
We're not beating the Lakers. Period. Anything that stunts Beaubois' growth as a player at this point should not even be considered
So we can pencil you in as a dumb who wants to see the Mavs suck for a decade?
I'm ing sick of these re ed Mavs fans who didn't even follow the team in the 90's thinking that blowing it up is a good option. Blowing it up doesn't guarantee that a solid rebuilding process will happen. Blowing it up just guarantees your team will suck for an extended period, and if you're lucky it won't be more than 3-4 years.
If you actually followed the Mavericks through the 90's there's no way in you want to see them blow this up. This is heaven compared to that era.
then can i pencil you in as a dumb who's completely happy and content with mediocrity? cuz that's all you're gonna get with your gameplan.
Savvy?
You have no ing clue what mediocrity actually is, you spoiled ass post-2000 Mavs fan.
funny, that's the first thing i think of when i log on spurstalk. mav fans are funny guys, but have a warped sense of basketball knowledge from following this team for so long.
roddy's speed does more for other mavs.
joe's speed doesn't. haven't we seen enough of this?
28, 22, 11, 13, 36, 26, 24, 20, 19, 40
That's the Mavs win totals each year in the 90's.
If you have a hard-on for those win totals, by all means, advocate blowing this team up.
wouldn't that be worse than mediocrity? THIS is mediocrity. and yeah i'm not old enough to have followed them throughout the entire 90's, but i was a fan for a few of those pathetic seasons, since about 96-97. Before Dirk at least, before winning seasons, etc so get off your high horse.
I'm not in any hurry to be bad. Am I optimistic that we can still win a le with Dirk as our best player, given the current composition of the Lakers roster and the Magic, LeBron's team (whoever that ends up being), Celtics and a possibly resurgent Heat team in the East? Nope, not at all. But you keep trying, and you ride that era out as long as possible. Think Hakeem dominating for years while the Rockets were pretenders. Think David Robinson being a perennial All Star while the Spurs seemingly were a second-round exit year after year. Think Kobe stuck on a Lakers team going nowhere after Shaq was traded.
Maybe at some point the Mavs get a stroke of luck and a really good player falls into their lap (Spurs drafting Duncan, Lakers getting Gasol). The way our roster is right now, we're good but not great. Which is where the Robinson Spurs and pre-Gasol Lakers were at. Rebuilding is not a guarantee of anything. The Blazers and ex-Sonics got lucky with Roy and Durant, but the Kings, Wolves and Clippers are in the lottery year after year. I don't see the logic in "blowing things up."
unless we do something, we are only going to slowly descend down the slippery slope into these types of win totals. why prolong the inevitable? dirk is going to be old before you know it, and kidd is going to be retired in a couple of years. we need to start planning for the future so we can be good again as soon as possible. now i'm not saying go ahead and trade everyone for picks and suck next season, but any plans involving moving Roddy, our only future piece, are re ed.
Mediocrity is 41-41, or thereabouts. Winning 50+ every year is not mediocrity. No Mavs fan I know is satisfied with winning 50 games and losing in the first round every year, but it beats the alternative of being a suck-ass team.
roddy for johnson is just a stupid move to make a move.
don't look at it so black and white by just win totals. 41-41, 50-32, whatever. mediocrity to me means not sucking ass, yet having ABSOLUTELY NO SHOT at a championship, which is right where we are. kobe could fall out of bed and sprain his and be injured for life tomorrow and the mavs STILL wouldn't have a shot in at a le. we are a perennial first round exit team. that is as "mediocre" as it gets.
now i'll agree that mav fans were spoiled back when we at least had an outside chance at a championship every year from about 2002-2007. but that window has closed, and although our yearly win totals are somewhat similar, it's just not the same because everyone knows that we have no shot at going all the way. none. nada. savvy?
Go back to 1987. If you don't have Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas, Michael Jordan, Hakeem Olajuwon, Tim Duncan, Shaquille O'Neal or Kobe Bryant, then you're not winning a championship. Those 8 guys have had a hand in like 22 out of the last 24 les. Winning an NBA le is exceedingly hard. I'd rather be one of the top 8 teams in the league with a remote, outside shot at a le than no chance at all.
So the Mavs had a chance at a le in 2002, 2004 and 2005, but not now? Explain your logic.
i don't think its closed, but if you start making trades like roddy for johnson......you might as well brick it up.
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