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    who gives a . anyone's an upgrade at this point. he was terrible and a waste.
    how can spurs get someone
    rj does not have to do a sign and trade!

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    you guys saying it's bad are ing re ed.

    Hey , Spurs are over the cap, how the do they replace him and with what?!!?

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    i cannot believe how much bull is coming off you guys' keyboards after the season Jefferson just put up. now everyone's suddenly on the bandwagon!? ST is classic.
    in case you are a full time idiot we are not band wagoning the player. he was better than nothing - which is what we might end up with now.

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    i cannot believe how much bull is coming off you guys' keyboards after the season Jefferson just put up. now everyone's suddenly on the bandwagon!? ST is classic.
    you think a minimum contract player is better? We are over the cap, and have the LLE. We have no sf starter and no backup.

    Unless we pay rj a contract now with his bird rights, that he likes, he walks and we get nothing.

    explain how this is better than:

    31 min

    46% fg

    12 pts

    4.4 reb

    I see no one on the horizon that will give us that at the sf position that we get for the LLE or less.

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    so now that the spurs are under the cap we dont have the MLE right?
    wrong, still the same, MLE and LLE

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    this is a good thing u eric b rj sucked ass im glad hes gone more playing time for gee and hariston
    I want a le
    I thought rj off the bench would be great
    rj off the bench could have got the 6 man award

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    i cannot believe how much bull is coming off you guys' keyboards after the season Jefferson just put up. now everyone's suddenly on the bandwagon!? ST is classic.
    You ing moron.

    sucked. But he's going to look like ing Michael Jordan when you see someone like Roger Mason Jr. as his replacement. Because in case you havent noticed thats the type of caliber player the Spurs will be able to afford as RJ's replacement. Not only that but they lose a 15 mill expiring trade chip. Only a clueless dumbass would be rejoicing over this news.

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    so how does this actually work? i'm no number cruncher or FO personnel.

    so he opts out which leaves 15m? but we can't spend that? i don't get it. i understand the whole trade bait thing but not the whole opting-out thing.

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    i cannot believe how much bull is coming off you guys' keyboards after the season Jefferson just put up. now everyone's suddenly on the bandwagon!? ST is classic.
    You are no economics genius, are you?

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    This is bad for the Spurs. Now they have no SF - and still no money to spend.

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    Could this possibly mean that the Spurs have a S&T deal in the works for RJ? Hopefully the Spurs didn't just get screwed otherwise.

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    i cannot believe how much bull is coming off you guys' keyboards after the season Jefferson just put up. now everyone's suddenly on the bandwagon!? ST is classic.
    Not on the bandwagon; for the Spurs, RJ was not a good fit. Still a good player, just a square peg.

    But realistically, his contract was a huge trade chip. Teams falling out of contention at the deadline will want cap relief, and the Spurs would be happy to give it to them, by way of trading RJ, in Feb in exchange for a few good, cheaper, up-and-coming players. THAT is where is value was to us as fans, not in the stats he put up, or in the defense he played.

    Like someone said earlier, I think the Spurs still have bird rights (I think?), so doing a sign and trade could still happen. But, it isn't as sure thing as it is if RJ stayed and we moved him at the deadline.

    That being said, a lot of teams are going to have a lot of extra cap space after the dust settles, and a lot of teams are going to be happy to overpay for an athletic SF square peg in a team they view as having square holes. Spurs, hopefully, will benefit from that, and leverage as S&T.

    But the chances of a good outcome for the Spurs is dwindling.

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    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/s..._97529699.html

    In a surprise move, Richard Jefferson has informed the Spurs that he intends to opt out of the final season of his contract and will become a free agent at midnight eastern time.
    Jefferson was due to make $15 million next year. Opting out gives him the freedom to negotiate a long-term deal, in advance of a new collective bargaining agreement next season.

    The move will move the Spurs below the luxury tax line, but not the projected salary cap. It does not necessarily mean the Jefferson era in San Antonio is over.

    Jefferson, who arrived in a trade with Milwaukee last offseason, never quite reached expectations in San Antonio. He averaged 12.3 points and 4.4 rebounds in his first — and perhaps, only — season with the Spurs.

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    so how does this actually work? i'm no number cruncher or FO personnel.

    so he opts out which leaves 15m? but we can't spend that? i don't get it. i understand the whole trade bait thing but not the whole opting-out thing.
    spurs are OVER THE CAP
    if spurs were UNDER THE CAP 15 million now IT WOULD BE GREAT

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    Do some people not get it? He was a HUGE tradeable asset at the trade deadline and now we get nothing. We could have landed a great player for his contract in February. But now we cant. Didnt people see teams making firesales to free up space this year. The same will happen next year too. Its not like it is a bad free agency class.

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    Hey , Spurs are over the cap, how the do they replace him and with what?!!?
    how do you figure!? that's $15m off the books. we just go right back into the luxury tax with another player.

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    This could still be a good thing... if he agrees to take less money per year, but for more years to stay in SA, we aren't screwed. Or, if we could sign and trade him.

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    either way Jefferson clearly doesnt want to be here

    who wants that dumb on this team poisoning things?

    Why would anyone thing he was going to grow some balls and magically be better next year?

    I dont want people here who dont want to be here

    Roger Mason Jr can join that club too

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    OMGWTFBBQ

    Is it possible he wants something like a 4-year/$32M contract? The Spurs could give him that; they still have his Bird rights. Noone is going to pay RJ anywhere near $15M next season.

    I'm starting to think more and more that players are really scared of next summer and are trying to lock up long contracts now. Basically everyone is opting out (Dirk, Pierce, Amare', etc), and it's probably because the new CBA is going to cut player salaries drastically, but existing deals will probably be grandfathered in. That's the only explanation I can think of.

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    how do you figure!? that's $15m off the books. we just go right back into the luxury tax with another player.
    That's not how it works. The Spurs only have the MLE and LLE (and minimum contracts) to spend. They don't get any more money to spend with RJ opting out.

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    tradeable? who the would want Jefferson? am i the only person that watched him last season?

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    him optin out is a smart move

    reason being, if all the top FAs sign onto one team, that leaves 2-3 teams that have money to sign him or stay pat for another season for the 2011 FA class....

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    wow yall people are stupid all i hear is we have no sf, in case yall forgot we have a great player on the bench who can play sf HARISTON>RJ

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    Hey , Spurs are over the cap, how the do they replace him and with what?!!?
    Use a little imagination. Trade Dice to WASH for Mike Miller, and re-sign Ian with his Bird rights, or S&T Ian for a SF.

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