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    Can anyone envision the conversation between the Spurs and Tiago, trying to convince him to take less than the MLE?

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    Exactly. Jefferson wasn't great, but Matt barnes, James Jones and other LLE or Min players aren't going to have the ability to potentially go off for 20+ on any given night.

    Have some in here completely forgotten why the Spurs needed to go out and get a 4th scorer?

    may have been one of hte top 5 worst Spurs ever.


    For every 1 game he would go off, you had 10 games of him being beyond useless.

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    Instead of crying about it, let's deal with it, RJ is opting out. Now what are the realistic best case scenarios?

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    So, the current options are:

    1. Sign and trade for something in return;
    2. MLE--Splitter?;
    3. LLE--Unknowns;
    4. Malik Hairston; or
    5. James Anderson.

    Is that correct?
    Pretty much.

    the S&T would be a god send but also dependent on what they got back...

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    So, the current options are:

    1. Sign and trade for something in return;
    2. MLE--Splitter?;
    3. LLE--Unknowns;
    4. Malik Hairston; or
    5. James Anderson.

    Is that correct?
    Switch your #4 and #5.

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    Can anyone envision the conversation between the Spurs and Tiago, trying to convince him to take less than the MLE?
    Yes.

    Tears running down Buford's face as he prays Tiago says yes.

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    Instead of crying about it, let's deal with it, RJ is opting out. Now what are the realistic best case scenarios?
    It is either re-signing RJ or sign and trade him elsewhere for a trade exception. There is no in-between, the Spurs have to sign him or else they are ed.

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    Switch your #4 and #5.

    This.

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    Long shot, but what's the latest with Victor Sanikidze?
    Keeps his arms and legs.
    Enough for a backup SF spot though.

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    Congrats, guys.

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    Dunno what its worth but McDonald says the Spurs are open to giving Jefferson a LTD supposedly for a more cap friendly figure....

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    That's not funny.
    A redemption song more to your liking?


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    Dunno what its worth but McDonald says the Spurs are open to giving Jefferson a LTD supposedly for a more cap friendly figure....
    Of course.

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    peter holt is like this right now:


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    The story of the Spurs:


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    So, the current options are:

    1. Sign and trade for something in return;
    2. MLE--Splitter?;
    3. LLE--Unknowns;
    4. Malik Hairston; or
    5. James Anderson.

    Is that correct?
    6. Trade Antonio and sign Ian
    7. S&T Ian

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    A redemption song more to your liking?

    At least he helped in 2007.

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    Hearing #spurs would be open to giving RJ a longer term deal at a per-year figure that's easier on their cap figure.

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    Hearing #spurs would be open to giving RJ a longer term deal at a per-year figure that's easier on their cap figure.

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    Spurs retain full Bird Rights and can sign him to any size contract without affecting their MLE.
    Thanks Mel. I for one am hoping this is the case

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    If a team is below the cap, then their Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level and/or Traded Player exceptions are added to their team salary, and the league treats the team as though they are over the cap. This is to prevent a loophole... A team can't act like they're under the cap and sign free agents using cap room, and then use their Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level and/or Traded Player exceptions. Consequently, the exceptions are added to their team salary (putting the team over the cap) if the team is under the cap and adding the exceptions puts them over the cap...

    So being under the cap does not necessarily mean a team has room to sign free agents. For example, assume the cap is $49.5 million, and a team has $43 million committed to salaries. They also have a Mid-Level exception for $5 million and a Traded Player exception for $5.5 million. Even though their salaries put them $6.5 million under the cap, their exceptions are added to their salaries, putting them at $53.5 million, or $4 million over the cap. So they actually have no cap room to sign free agents, and instead must use their exceptions.

    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q1

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    I agree that this sucks and sets the Spurs up for financial issues this summer, but RJ was advised to protect himself with a potential lockout looming in 2011. I'm confident that the Spurs will not be left high and dry when all is said and done. The front office is too saavy, IMO. I think the following scenarios could explain what's going on:

    1.) RJ wants an extended deal with the Spurs to protect himself from the looming lockout or feels he won't be able to get decent money elsewhere in the future.
    2.) RJ already has a pre-determined destination.
    3.) Spurs have a sign-and-trade proposal worked out that works for both parties.
    4.) RJ is so miserable in SA that he decided to leave $15 million on the table and take his chances. I doubt he's doing this blindly, though.

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    old mcdonald.


    he doesnt know his head from his ing ass.

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    Richard Jefferson maybe made smarter play by opting out of #Spurs deal: http://bit.ly/d0kicN

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    The only thing is that Splitter is still not a sure, or likely, signing for the Spurs.
    Hold on.....what?

    You think it's unlikely?

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