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    I'm kind of relieved RJ is opting out
    This. Now Bonner needs to GTFO my team.

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    this thread should be put in the classics hahaha

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    i'd rather have HITA over .
    You take one, you might get the other.

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    This could still work out for the Spurs. Long term, they need a legitimate successor at the SF position. But for this season, they can get away with two role players sharing the position. One who's a knockdown three point shooter and another who's an above average defender. I'm thinking of a player like Webster. Not him specifically, just that type of player. I could see them going the sign and trade route.

    From Chris Mannixs' twitter...

    Jefferson never felt comfortable in SA. Didn't fit in read and react offense, didn't like playing four a lot this season.

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    If the Spurs are a few million under the cap, can't they absorb another team's contract in a trade without sending something back? If so, can they then use the MLE of Splitter after that?

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    i'd rather have HITA over .

    No way.

    No ing way at all ....

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    You take one, you might get the other.


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    Jefferson isn't going anywhere, unless the Spurs gave him reason to believe he'd get a long term deal and are now pulling the rug out from under him. No way are they going to do that, as hard as it is to lure a decent non-Spur free agent to SA.

    Jefferson gives up $15 mil for one season for $40 over 5 or what not.

    Spurs get lux tax relief and, sadly, a better 3 than they can find most anywhere else. Still, Jefferson at $7 mil per makes a lot more sense than at $15, even for one season.
    Some people don't like the idea of signing him to a long term deal. The thing is, when the Spurs begin the rebuilding process...he'll be the first one shipped out for cap space.

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    Jefferson comes back at a much more acceptable price. Splitter & Anderson join.

    All in all, not a bad offseason. Not great, but then again, this is not starting with the assumption that the Spurs could lure LeBron in a S&T for Jefferson's contract.

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    That can't happen. You can use cap space or the MLE, not both.
    Thats what I thought as well, and then got shot down on that.

    Who knows.

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    If the Spurs are a few million under the cap, can't they absorb another team's contract in a trade without sending something back? If so, can they then use the MLE of Splitter after that?
    I think so.

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    Safe to say that Bowen/Oberto/Thomas for will go down as one of the worst trades in franchise history.
    if they were all in there primes our players

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    Maybe this link is outdated http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm but San Antonio is still below the Cap....

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    sportsguy33:
    Stephen A. Smith reports that Richard Jefferson just walked away from an orgy with the Laker Girls.

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    S&T Parker for Rudy Gay, promote Hill to starting pg and sign Temple as a backup. Is that even possible?

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    More food for thought. This is why I hate the CBA: even trying to clarify it makes things more confusing.

    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm

    20. How do exceptions count against the cap? Does being under the cap always mean that a team has room to sign free agents? Do teams ever lose their exceptions?

    If a team is below the cap, then their Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level and/or Traded Player exceptions are added to their team salary, and the league treats the team as though they are over the cap. This is to prevent a loophole, in a manner similar to free agent amounts (see question numbers 29, 30, 31, 32). A team can't act like they're under the cap and sign free agents using cap room, and then use their Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level and/or Traded Player exceptions. Consequently, the exceptions are added to their team salary (putting the team over the cap) if the team is under the cap and adding the exceptions puts them over the cap. If a team is already over the cap, then the exceptions are not added to their team salary. There would be no point in doing so, since there is no cap room for signing free agents.

    So being under the cap does not necessarily mean a team has room to sign free agents. For example, assume the cap is $49.5 million, and a team has $43 million committed to salaries. They also have a Mid-Level exception for $5 million and a Traded Player exception for $5.5 million. Even though their salaries put them $6.5 million under the cap, their exceptions are added to their salaries, putting them at $53.5 million, or $4 million over the cap. So they actually have no cap room to sign free agents, and instead must use their exceptions.

    Teams have the option of renouncing their exceptions in order to claim the cap room. So in the example above, if the team renounced their Traded Player and Mid-Level exceptions, then the $10.5 million is taken off their team salary, which then totals $43 million, leaving them with $6.5 million of cap room which can then be used to sign free agent(s).

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    The Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level and Traded Player exceptions may be lost entirely, or the team may never receive them to begin with. This happens when their team salary is so low that when the exceptions are added to the team salary, the sum is still below the salary cap. If the team salary is below this level when the exception arises, then the team doesn't get the exception. If the team salary ever drops below this level during the year, then any exceptions they had are lost.

    For example, with a $49.5 million salary cap, assume it's the offseason, and a team has $41 million committed to salaries, along with a Mid-Level exception for $5 million, a Traded Player exception for $2.5 million, and an unrenounced free agent whose free agent amount is $2 million. Their salaries and exceptions total $50.5 million, or $1 million over the cap. What if their free agent signs with another team? The $2 million free agent amount comes off their cap, so their team salary drops to $48.5 million. This total is below the cap so the team loses its Mid-Level and Traded Player exceptions.

    There is logic behind this. The whole idea behind an "exception" is that it is an exception to the rule which says a team has to be below the salary cap. In other words, an exception is a mechanism which allows a team to function above the cap. If a team isn't over the cap, then the concept of an exception is moot. Therefore, if a team's team salary ever drops this far, its exceptions go away. The effect is that a team may have either exceptions or cap room, but they can't have both.

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    Jefferson comes back at a much more acceptable price. Splitter & Anderson join.

    All in all, not a bad offseason. Not great, but then again, this is not starting with the assumption that the Spurs could lure LeBron in a S&T for Jefferson's contract.

    If given the choice of Jefferson or Hairston and Gee as the starting SFs, I go with Jefferson.

    Bad fit yeah, but better than going in with D leaguers as your starting SF...

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    Anderson is 6'6" and gives us at least as much as RJ per minute.

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    If given the choice of Jefferson or Hairston and Gee as the starting SFs, I go with Jefferson.

    Bad fit yeah, but better than going in with D leaguers as your starting SF...

    No way Spurs will end up with a D-Leaguer as a starting SF.

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    I remember an interview of RJ saying he would consider opting out a few months ago and everybody was like: lol, wtf?, he'd crazy...

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    From McDonald's twitter...

    Hearing #spurs would be open to giving RJ a longer term deal at a per-year figure that's easier on their cap figure.

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    if they were all in there primes our players
    Their expirings were the lifeline to prying the team's le window open. They went for nought.

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    How does that change being one of the top 5 worse Spurs ever?



    For what he made I dont think there is any question he was the worst spur ever to put on the uniform.
    You're paying the bills. The Spurs didn't sign him to that contract. Why does it matter what he made? You have some of the most ridiculous logic I've ever seen in a 12 year old.

    The spurs are losing talent...they will not be able to fully replace that talent with the LLE and min money.

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    Anderson is 6'6" and gives us at least as much as RJ per minute.

    Even though RJ's defense wasnt all that good, I don't think Anderson's defense will be better then RJ's.

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    Spurs are just going to start Parker, Hill and Manu and be done with it.

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