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    That's weird. I used to post on my 3g and now on the iphone 4. Never had any problems. On the very bottom left hand corner of the website you will see "flash enabled skin" maybe if you change that to iPhone when your on your phone it might start to work... no idea though.
    Yeah same here, 3G and 4 has been fine.

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    Basically

    The Spurs are not beating the Lakers backcourt of 2-7 footers currently and realistically in the near future, just save the money and field some scrubs.
    Yeah....the Spurs FO should just give up trying to win a championship in TD's last years.

    As long as he's on the team.....they will try to milk it to the end.

    Sometimes...fans don't realize the price of success and think if you don't win it all every year......you should just tear it down rebuild.

    Only if it was that easy.....

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    wow talk about the door being shut.


    Now we are in franchise limbo....making the playoffs with no chance at accomplishing anything

    Like the Jazz in in the late late 90's and early 00's

    But with 4 ing les.


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    That's weird. I used to post on my 3g and now on the iphone 4. Never had any problems. On the very bottom left hand corner of the website you will see "flash enabled skin" maybe if you change that to iPhone when your on your phone it might start to work... no idea though.
    will do. thanks

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    Has anybody thrown Ron Mercer into the mix of worst Spurs players in recent history?

    Because, you know, he was.

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    That dumb thinks Bonner helps spread the floor, pay no attention to Tpark.

    ?

    Uh, in the regular season yes he does.

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    Everyone does need to relax just a bit. It's not as if the Spurs are going play 4 on 5 without RJ.

    RJ played about 32mpg last season with the results that we all saw. Let's say that those 32 minutes are covered by some combination of Anderson, Hairston, and Gee.

    The question becomes:

    What is the marginal loss in production from replacing RJ with those players? It may not be much.

    Anyway, I'm not ready to jump off a bridge just yet. He could be resigned. He could be traded. We could get a bargain with the LLE. Let's give it a week or two and see how things shake out.
    This sums it up nicely. Spurs got out from under a financial rock, have multiple options (S&T, move TP and become a FA player...) and can quite easily fill up RJ's "stats" with our young guys.

    I actually think they can get better, younger hustle players and defenders which will make this a net gain in terms of impact.

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    Well, if the Wiz don't pick up the option on Howard ... We didn't have a Sf with Rj so I just don't see what the fuss is about. Put Hairston in or something.

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    This is going to be absolutely hilarious when the Spurs resign RJ.

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    ?

    Uh, in the regular season yes he does.

    Every 4-5 Games

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    Now you're just being dumb.
    really? were you the RJ fan in the crowd? no one in this ing bandwagon liked him. i understand people valued his contract this coming season but ask yourself why?

    someone brought up McGrady and the Rocket coming out on top. the only reason the Knicks did that was b/c McGrady came off the books for THIS FA year. everyone thinks that a player coming off the books is a good thing, but that is NOT the rule that's the exception (because this FA year is unlike any in history).

    what team will want to bring on Richard Jefferson's expiring contract with no SUPERSTAR FAs in that coming FA summer?

    the value people hold for that expiring contract is over blown. it's best that we get rid of Jefferson now even for nothing and give that time to someone else.

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    Why RJ would do that it's an extra 6 million for two more years ?
    Players want security. Maybe he figured one more down season in this system and he'd probably have to take a one year deal next season for at most the MLE (if it's still around in the new CBA; I hear it may not be) and could potentially risk bouncing around to team after team, making less by the year. Similar to a guy like Hughes. Players want security.

    If Jefferson could secure a three year contract, as long as the money isn't ridiculously low, he'd have to strongly consider it. Like I said though, I find it hard to believe that the Spurs would be willing to give him that at this juncture. I'm just throwing out possibilities.

    Jefferson can still make 5-7 million a season while Curry probably won't make a NBA roster.
    Curry definitely will get another chance or two. He's 6-11, I believe turns 28 this year and can score in the low post. Bender, who had been out of the league for a few seasons just got another chance. Miles might get another chance, Williams (Sean) might get another chance.

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    Remember the production of the guy who played sf before jefferson?
    I don't think it will be much of a lost.

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    Has anybody thrown Ron Mercer into the mix of worst Spurs players in recent history?

    Because, you know, he was.

    What the Anthony Carter too....

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    This is going to be absolutely hilarious when the Spurs resign RJ.
    I sincerely hope not. S&T him sure. But he's too bad of a fit to resign long term, with a new CBA coming up...

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    Does that "someone" have a name? And can that "someone" be signed for league minimum, the BAE, or whatever small fraction of the MLE may be left over after using it to sign Splitter?
    Hairston, Gee, Anderson, James Jones, Wright, Gomes....

    The combo of splitting up his minutes between some combo of those players will not result in any significant decrease. In fact, if they defend better, it could be beneficial.

    This is not even taking into account and S&T opps.

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    lmao richard jefferson is a twitter trending topic
    I just noticed that

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    resigning Jefferson to another deal would be a horrible decision. 1) he's a pile of crap 2) it'll extend the life of people to jump back off his bandwagon and label him the worst Spur ever.

    him opting out is the best thing that could've happen to the Spurs. he had zero trade value, even in the middle of the season, so stop with the BS.
    I don't think you understand why he was going to be a great trade value. It's not because someone would really want him and think he's worth 15 million. It's because they would be getting an expiring contract to get under the salary cap. He was going to be one of the best trade chips in the league.

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    Marcus,

    I believe Spurs fans forget that fact sometimes.

    Celtics: 17
    Lakers: 16
    Bulls: 6
    Spurs: 4

    Most les in the history in the NBA.

    In the last 12 seasons only the Lakers, Spurs, and Mavs (1 time) have represented the West in the NBA Finals.

    There ain't much parity in the league and when you're a top franchise (that's not the Lakers or the Celts)....other teams will not support you getting better.

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    This is going to be absolutely hilarious when the Spurs resign RJ.
    Basically. Of course, they could always lose out on him. Which, imo, isn't the worst case. I'm sure Hollinger has figured out that Jefferson's worth amounts to a +0.49 in win shares or what not.

    Of course, if the FO thinks Parker is going to bail in a year, they might as well not make any more long term commitments.

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    What the Anthony Carter too....
    AC gets the pass as the "don't kick a dog when he's down" award for the whole contract snafu and how it still makes me chuckle.

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    Everyone does need to relax just a bit. It's not as if the Spurs are going play 4 on 5 without RJ.

    RJ played about 32mpg last season with the results that we all saw. Let's say that those 32 minutes are covered by some combination of Anderson, Hairston, and Gee.

    The question becomes:

    What is the marginal loss in production from replacing RJ with those players? It may not be much.

    Anyway, I'm not ready to jump off a bridge just yet. He could be resigned. He could be traded. We could get a bargain with the LLE. Let's give it a week or two and see how things shake out.

    The problem for me is i remember how things were in 07 and 08. Even when the spurs won the le in 07 there was a huge issue with finding points.

    Sure you can replace RJ's mintues with a tandem of guys who can collectively give you 15 ppg...but it's about how those points are scored. RJ had the ability to create on his own and give the "big 3" a break from the offense. Now you're back to hoping that Tim, Tony and Manu can create for others and initiate their own offense. Losing RJ is not the end of the world...but it added a dynamic that the Spurs hadn't had in a long time.

    At his best he could take over games offensively and grab you 12 boards. His best was rare...but when he brought it the Spurs were hard to beat. And there was always that hope he could find his stride this season. understanding this system has never come easy.

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    Remember the production of the guy who played sf before jefferson?
    I don't think it will be much of a lost.

    Yeah bruce Bowen.

    a once in a million shot...

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    I don't think you understand why he was going to be a great trade value. It's not because someone would really want him and think he's worth 15 million. It's because they would be getting an expiring contract to get under the salary cap. He was going to be one of the best trade chips in the league.
    exactly, people want him because they'd go under the cap to sign a potential Superstar FA. what i'm saying is that teams did THAT (take on expiring contracts) THIS year bc THIS year is unlike any other.

    that in no way predicts teams would be willing (with the same aggression) do that when RJ's contract was up.

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    AC gets the pass as the "don't kick a dog when he's down" award for the whole contract snafu and how it still makes me chuckle.

    Holy how could I forget in the same year.


    Shane Whottt errr Heal...

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