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    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    Teams under the cap best interest is to do a S&T because they can have a contract with 10.5% raises instead of 8%

    If RJ sign a $40M/5 years contract, the starting salary will be $6.90M with a 8% raise contract and $6.61M with a 10.5% raise contract. Doing a sign and trade will spare $300K in cap space.

    A S&T of RJ for a 2017 top 59 protected second round pick woudl be great because it would create a big TE for Spurs. Spurs can even get a bigger TE by packaging Hairston and/or Jerrells with RJ.
    I'm so jealous of your knowledge

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    if he goes to NJ I would want a trade exception (not really any good SF on the Nets roster); if he goes to NY S&T involving Wilson Chandler as one of the pieces

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    thank you jesus, and yall people saying we dont have a sf need to shut the up, hariston is better than jefferson and if you say otherwise just stop being a spurs fan

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    thank you jesus, and yall people saying we dont have a sf need to shut the up, hariston is better than jefferson and if you say otherwise just stop being a spurs fan
    We don't have an SF.

    Jefferson is better than Hairston.

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    In a sign-and-trade, the Spurs can give larger annual salary increases, which means NJ or NY can give RJ a lower first year salary and save some cap room. The Spurs could also take back an unwanted contract or throw in a pick or some cash.

    When it comes down to it, NJ or NY would have no reason not to do a S&T other than if they just wanted to screw the Spurs.


    Hopefully something gets done today.

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    Really? New York barely has enough players to trade as it is. Both seem to have enough cap room to compensate for any money lost in raises from a sign and trade since it won't be a max contract.

    The Spurs might be fortunate to get a second rounder out of it. The real value would be the trade exception. Don't get greedy about demands.
    Where did I say I want the Spurs to get anything other than a trade exception? I'd be willing for the Spurs to give up a draft pick, pay cash or take back an unwanted player to get that trade exception.

    A trade exception right now is worth its weight in gold.

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    thank you jesus, and yall people saying we dont have a sf need to shut the up, hariston is better than jefferson and if you say otherwise just stop being a spurs fan
    Hairston will NOT start at SF.

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    Sorry to change topics, but is there a way to ignore/not to see posts from particular users?

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    This is starting to look more and more like the Spurs are getting caught in a bad spot. Even though we have all this talk about CIA pop and the FO smoke screens, sometimes things just don't go our way. This looks like one of those times.

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    Where did I say I want the Spurs to get anything other than a trade exception? I'd be willing for the Spurs to give up a draft pick, pay cash or take back an unwanted player to get that trade exception.

    A trade exception right now is worth its weight in gold.
    I was saying the Spurs should not get greedy with demands.

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    thank you jesus, and yall people saying we dont have a sf need to shut the up, hariston is better than jefferson and if you say otherwise just stop being a spurs fan
    no way

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    Nets also want to dump Kris Humphries who has a $3.2M expiring contract.

    A S&T like:
    RJ (5/40) + Hairston + Jerrels for Humphries + picks + $3M in cash could be great.

    Spurs would get a $5M TE. Humphries whole salary would be almost paid with the cash. Picks could be a couple of good second round pick or a lottery protected first round pick.

    Nets get RJ for a cost of only $3.4M in cap space.

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    I was saying the Spurs should not get greedy with demands.
    Oh, that "really?" threw me off. But yeah, if RJ is going, the Spurs have to do what it takes to get a trade exception.

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    Humphries has always been a nice player. Not a starter/consistent role player but one who is willing to work hard out and fill the energy bench role. Wouldnt mind having him at all.

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    The good news is that if RJ goes to NJ or NY, he'd likely go in a S&T.
    I don't see how/why it would be a sign and trade.. What woukd NY get out of it? Their likely not getting any free agents lol and have money to spend..

    Please elaborate.. If we can get wilson chandler, I'd trade him right now ! But I just don't see this happening. Its becoming more apparent that this was not a coordinated opt out with SA, looks like he wants to leave. I didn't think this till after reading the latest piece from Yahoo

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    Thanks, Mel_13, Bruno, timvp, etc. I swear, on a scale of 1 to 10, I used to be about a 6 or 7 on CBA knowledge. Apparently that has taken about a 50% cut when my brain exploded a few hours ago.

    Is it too early to start drinking?

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    Nets also want to dump Kris Humphries who has a $3.2M expiring contract.

    A S&T like:
    RJ (5/40) + Hairston + Jerrels for Humphries + picks + $3M in cash could be great.

    Spurs would get a $5M TE. Humphries whole salary would be almost paid with the cash. Picks could be a couple of good second round pick or a lottery protected first round pick.

    Nets get RJ for a cost of only $3.4M in cap space.
    Great work

    Yeah, something like that is what the Spurs should be able to do with an RJ S&T. A $5 million TE would be enough to find an RJ replacement.

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    Hold the phone..

    Bron has the Nets as the front-runners. If Bron goes to NJ, that takes away the Nets from all of these proposals.

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    Thanks Slomo! Its just that with getting older, have to watch out for the blood pressure ;-)

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    Nets also want to dump Kris Humphries who has a $3.2M expiring contract.

    A S&T like:
    RJ (5/40) + Hairston + Jerrels for Humphries + picks + $3M in cash could be great.

    Spurs would get a $5M TE. Humphries whole salary would be almost paid with the cash. Picks could be a couple of good second round pick or a lottery protected first round pick.

    Nets get RJ for a cost of only $3.4M in cap space.
    Humphries and a 5mil TE for RJ? Yes please.

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    You realize the Spurs are screwed if RJ walks?
    Screwed out of what? Playoff performances of 33 minutes a game with 9 points a game along with mediocre at best defense, soft hustle, and refusal to step out beyond the three point line?

    S/T would be awesome. If he walks straight up I'm not going to cry about a single digit playoff underperformer.

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    Richard Jefferson doesn’t have a deal with the San Antonio Spurs and would prefer to return to the New York area to play for the Knicks or Nets, league sources told Y! Sports.

    Jefferson is seeking a multiyear contract that averages in the range of $8 million-$10 million, sources said. He opted out of the $15 million final season of his contract with the Spurs on Tuesday.

    Jefferson has built a good relationship with Spurs coach Gregg Popovich, but doesn’t think the team’s system best fits his skills.

    The Spurs could still try to sign Jefferson to a contract that lowers their luxury-tax hit, depending on what other options they find in free agency.

    – Adrian Wojnarowski, 4:20 p.m. ET, July 1

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    Great work

    Yeah, something like that is what the Spurs should be able to do with an RJ S&T. A $5 million TE would be enough to find an RJ replacement.
    Not to get greedy, but it would be nice to get a TE of at least $6.4 million, which would bring into play guys who got the full MLE last season, and now teams regret it. Not that the Rockets would ever help us out, but guys like Trevor Ariza come to mind.

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    I am on the fence as far as RJ goes at this point.

    Anyway, can someone please explain to me how exactly a TE works? Who would be a realistic option with this TE?

    Thanks in advance!


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