Wojnarowski: Jefferson eyes Knicks, Nets

[benefactor]

Don't bother following McDonald on twitter. I could give you info that is just as good.

[ohmwrecker]

That's a little more than I had hoped.

[Seventyniner]

"One unconfirmed report Thursday had Jefferson poised to sign a three-year, $30 million with the Spurs. Another had the terms at five years for $45 million, with the final season likely only partially guaranteed."

Ouch. Both of those deals are bad.

[ohmwrecker]

Ouch. Both of those deals are bad.

Yeah, hopefully the report is true, but the details are false.

[DPG21920]

A "TE" stands for a Trade Exception. You can only use it in trades, not signing FA's. It is not like an exception (MLE) and only works through a trade.

It really just functions as a hold for trading a player. This happens because teams under the cap, don't have to match salaries in a trade. It gives the team who traded a chance to maintain their cap level.

Does that help?

Righto. Thanks for clarifying that without being condescending.

So, it's like a placeholder, for lack of a better term.

Do you just tune me out?

[slick'81]

5 years gtfoutta here

[Agloco]

Trade exceptions are valid for up to 365 days after the trade. So it could be used right away or kept for later in the season or even after the season.

Main rule is that the salary of a player acquired with a TE must fit into the amount of the TE plus 100K.

So, if the Spurs get a 6.1M TE in an RJ trade, they can acquire a player from another team whose 2010-11 salary is no more than 6.2M.

Spurs would try to find players that may not be wanted by their current team because of salary or fit or both. That 6.1M TE could get you Mo Petersen (6.2M), but not James Posey (6.5M), for example.

You also can't combine two smaller TEs to get one higher priced player.

Can you split it?

Say as in the above example the Spurs get 6.1mil for RJ, can they then go out and get one player at, say, 2.5 and another at 3.7?

[jiggy_55]

"One unconfirmed report Thursday had Jefferson poised to sign a three-year, $30 million with the Spurs. Another had the terms at five years for $45 million, with the final season likely only partially guaranteed."

The fact that he has 2 "sources" reporting 2 separate deals leads me to think it seems he has some info. I mean could both reports be completely wrong? What are the odds? The Spurs and RJ seem to be definitely talking about re-signing, not a sign and trade if this is true.
LOL I think this changes by the hour according to the reports we here.

[ohmwrecker]

Do you just tune me out?

Honestly? A little bit.

[DPG21920]

You didn't need to say it at all. It was redundant.

I got my question answered without the condescending bull , but thanks anyway.

You walk around calling people "bub" all the time and were condescending to me all day yesterday even though I was explaining myself to you.

Lighten it up a little.

[Mel_13]

Can you split it?

Say as in the above example the Spurs get 6.1mil for RJ, can they then go out and get one player at, say, 2.5 and another at 3.7?

Yes

[Gino2882]

What would be wrong with the 3 year 30 million dollar deal? I think Jefferson is gonna be very successful next year.

[MaNu4Tres]

5 years gtfoutta here

Last year would be partially guaranteed.

It really isn't all that bad TBH.

[galvatron3000]

So is this the season the Spurs and Knicks rub elbows for the plane ride the Knicks gave the Spurs back in 2008 or was it last year?

[ohmwrecker]

You walk around calling people "bub" all the time and were condescending to me all day yesterday even though I was explaining myself to you.

Lighten it up a little.

I don't think I was condescending to you. We were having a difference of opinion that seemed to have lost it's focus. I think I just got tired of arguing with you so I did kind of tune you out.

I apologize. Sincerely. And, I usually say bubba.

[Seventyniner]

Can you split it?

Say as in the above example the Spurs get 6.1mil for RJ, can they then go out and get one player at, say, 2.5 and another at 3.7?

Sorry, gotta be the math nit. 2.5 + 3.7 = 6.2, so it wouldn't be possible.

[Muser]

So the Spurs are actually looking to re-sign him?

[DPG21920]

Last year would be partially guaranteed.

It really isn't all that bad TBH.

I want to see why you think long-term RJ is good for the Spurs. I just don't see it.

[murpjf88]

Last year would be partially guaranteed.

It really isn't all that bad TBH.

Jefferson's already shown signs of regression. He is untradeable at that price. He's already 30. What the are they gonna do with him in 2 to 3 years?

[dbestpro]

I keep getting this creeping feeliing that this is part of a CIA plan to send Parker and RJ to NY.

[ohmwrecker]

So the Spurs are actually looking to re-sign him?

I don't see any other way out of this deal. It's actually pretty cool of Jefferson to opt out and re-sign with us for a deal that benefits the Spurs. It's weird that nobody is giving him props for that.

If that's what is happening, of course.

[ducks]

Lebron needs to make his choice quickly. I'm sure he's thrilled to be the center of attention but he is freezing the whole free agency. Nets won't consider adding RJ as long as they think they have a shot at Lebron.

said by monday he will decide

[ohmwrecker]

Jefferson's already shown signs of regression. He is untradeable at that price. He's already 30. What the are they gonna do with him in 2 to 3 years?

I think regression is a strong word. He came out of a year in Milwaukee where the team wasn't defensively focused, he handled the ball a lot more and was the #1 0r 2 option 90% of the time.

Pop's system required a completely different mindset and he was under a lot of pressure to perform big because of his contract. Not to mention being forced to play PF a lot, learning a new playbook, having to defer to new teammates while being yelled at that he was deferring too much.

If it's true that Pop is working with him this off season, then I have got to believe that they think they can make him fit in next year.

If not, S&T.

[murpjf88]

I think regression is a strong word. He came out of a year in Milwaukee where the team wasn't defensively focused, he handled the ball a lot more and was the #1 0r 2 option 90% of the time.

Pop's system required a completely different mindset and he was under a lot of pressure to perform big because of his contract. Not to mention being forced to play PF a lot, learning a new playbook, having to defer to new teammates while being yelled at that he was deferring too much.

If it's true that Pop is working with him this off season, then I have got to believe that they think they can make him fit in next year.

If not, S&T.

I don't see the Spurs changing their style of play to suit the 4th best player on the team. So either he gets it this year or the Spurs are pretty much out of options unless they can get a miracle player in return for TP at the trade deadline. I personally would like to keep TP unless CP3 was involved.

Edit: If he has another down year like this year, his trade value will be severely compromised.

[jag]

I think there's one thing everyone can agree on. Richard Jefferson is not worth all this trouble. That guy is a diva.