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    For the experts on salary cap. How much salary can the Spurs receive in a trade for Splitter rights?
    None, but they can receive cash considerations. I'm pretty sure that the limit on that is 3M dollars.

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    Thanks, man. I was really curious.

    FWIW, I think Splitter to Spurs is a done deal.

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    Thanks, man. I was really curious.

    FWIW, I think Splitter to Spurs is a done deal.
    I'm optimistic, but I won't believe it until I see him next to RC Buford holding up a Spurs jersey with his name on it.

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    I'm optimistic, but I won't believe it until I see him next to RC Buford holding up a Spurs jersey with his name on it.
    I think the hold up on the announcement is because the Spurs are possibly trying to get Splitters side to agree to a little bit less than the MLE.

    Which would give the Spurs the small amount of space to make potential non-guaranteed deals to promising undrafted rookies at the end of the year. Similar to what they did this past year with McDyess-Gee-Temple-Jerrels.

    Of course if it came down to it, the Spurs will just offer the full MLE if there is no chance for Splitter to agree to 5 million instead of 5.8 million.

    That's just my two cents on the hold-up with the verbal agreement.

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    This wait is killing me, I want to know if he's in or out already.

    So manu4tres, if Splitter got all the MLE, then there'd be no chance for Gee/Temple/whoever? They prob already have unguaranteed contracts already, so sorry if it is a dumb question.

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    So manu4tres, if Splitter got all the MLE, then there'd be no chance for Gee/Temple/whoever? They prob already have unguaranteed contracts already, so sorry if it is a dumb question.
    They are indeed already on unguaranteed contracts, but their respective statuses probably aren't directly dependent on Splitter's deal unless that and the rest of the Spurs' offseason moves put them back over the luxury tax threshold.

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    Pekovic is the only Euro player that is a better prospect than Splitter.
    Certainly better as a center.

    Minnesota overpayed a player, as usual.
    They have to, if they want to convince good players that care about winning go play for a perennial loser in that place.

    No need to worry.
    10-12 millions/3 years will do for Splitter.

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    I will assume that the Spurs have told TS that they have big plans for him. I assume he will be a starter sooner rather then later. If so he deserves MLE. I assume he has big plans for himself.

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    Pekovic is the only Euro player that is a better prospect than Splitter.
    Certainly better as a center.

    Minnesota overpayed a player, as usual.
    They have to, if they want to convince good players that care about winning go play for a perennial loser in that place.

    No need to worry.
    10-12 millions/3 years will do for Splitter.
    No offense, but by who's account is Pekovic a better prospect than Splitter (even at center)? I admit that I know little about players outside of the United States, but from everything that I have read and heard - Splitter is better than Pekovic by leaps and bounds and it isn't really even close. I could be wrong, but would you mind providing some support or a link for the claim that Pekovic is a better prospect? Thanks in advance.

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    No offense, but by who's account is Pekovic a better prospect than Splitter (even at center)? I admit that I know little about players outside of the United States, but from everything that I have read and heard - Splitter is better than Pekovic by leaps and bounds and it isn't really even close. I could be wrong, but would you mind providing some support or a link for the claim that Pekovic is a better prospect? Thanks in advance.
    lol Yeah, really. Splitter is arguably the best big man not playing in the NBA, and only a year older than Pekovic, yet he's not the better prospect?

    That doesn't make much sense to me.

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    No offense, but by who's account is Pekovic a better prospect than Splitter (even at center)? I admit that I know little about players outside of the United States, but from everything that I have read and heard - Splitter is better than Pekovic by leaps and bounds and it isn't really even close. I could be wrong, but would you mind providing some support or a link for the claim that Pekovic is a better prospect? Thanks in advance.
    A couple of years ago Pekovic was probably a better prospect than Splitter, however Tiago has improved greatly since then,while Pekovic... well not so much since he went to play in Greece.

    Right now Tiago is undoubtedly the better player, but it's possible that Pekovic's game could translate better to the NBA, especially in a team like Minnesota, where he could eventually get pretty decent numbers ( if they trade Al Jeff ).

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    No offense, but by who's account is Pekovic a better prospect than Splitter (even at center)? I admit that I know little about players outside of the United States, but from everything that I have read and heard - Splitter is better than Pekovic by leaps and bounds and it isn't really even close. I could be wrong, but would you mind providing some support or a link for the claim that Pekovic is a better prospect? Thanks in advance.
    No offense.
    Link?
    Me. Check my record to predict the outcome of the Scola "trade".
    I actually watch games.
    Euroleague games.
    Splitter was great in the Spanish league, but was a non factor in the Euroleague.
    Pekovic is a beast, stronger, better rebounder and with great post skills.
    He is NBA-ready.
    The only question mark, he is Serbian: sometimes they go nuts in big games and lose it.
    Splitter is cool, better in defensive rotations and a better passer.
    He will have to put on at least 30 pounds to seriously match up with some of the NBA bigs, though.
    He is more a PF than a center, in my opinion.
    That could go down well, considering the decline of Duncan.

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    Pekovic is the only Euro player that is a better prospect than Splitter.
    Certainly better as a center.

    Minnesota overpayed a player, as usual.
    They have to, if they want to convince good players that care about winning go play for a perennial loser in that place.

    No need to worry.
    10-12 millions/3 years will do for Splitter.
    Minny's contract with Peckovic is almost completely irrelevant to the deal that the Spurs and Splitter will reach.

    Splitter's leverage with regard to the Spurs is much greater than what Peckovic had with the Wolves.

    Splitter will get much more than 3/12.

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    A couple of years ago Pekovic was probably a better prospect than Splitter, however Tiago has improved greatly since then,while Pekovic... well not so much since he went to play in Greece.

    Right now Tiago is undoubtedly the better player, but it's possible that Pekovic's game could translate better to the NBA, especially in a team like Minnesota, where he could eventually get pretty decent numbers ( if they trade Al Jeff ).
    This.

    Pekovic was one of the few bright spots in the Pana disaster this year.

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    Minny's contract with Peckovic is almost completely irrelevant to the deal that the Spurs and Splitter will reach.

    Splitter's leverage with regard to the Spurs is much greater than what Peckovic had with the Wolves.

    Splitter will get much more than 3/12.
    I disagree that Pekovic's leverage was inferior to Splitter's.
    Minnesota could not sign -and never will, probably- their first draft choice of 09.
    I guess there was some pressure there.
    They were desperate to sign a big of some sort.
    Pekovic was making pretty good money in Greece, in the $4-5 millions a year bullpark, and you REALLY do want to play in the NBA, to accept Minnesota, but not for inferior money.

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    I'm not sure what all the hand wringing is about.

    Players can't sign until July 8. You never see the Spurs getting the ESPN air time or leaking to the E-N ahead of time. You'll probably see something from Ludden or Woj over at Yahoo late the night of the 7th, and The Excuse for News trotting along with a similar story about an hour after, and the Spurs will announce the signing on the 8th with a small press conference in the afternoon.

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    I disagree that Pekovic's leverage was inferior to Splitter's.
    Minnesota could not sign -and never will, probably- their first draft choice of 09.
    I guess there was some pressure there.
    They were desperate to sign a big of some sort.
    Pekovic was making pretty good money in Greece, in the $4-5 millions a year bullpark, and you REALLY do want to play in the NBA, to accept Minnesota, but not for inferior money.
    1. How much leverage could he have had if he took substantially less money to sign in Minnesota than he could have received to stay in Europe?

    2. Minnesota won 15 games last year. They have Jefferson, Love, Milicic, and Hollins. How desperately did they really need Peckovic?

    We'll find out soon, but I'm certain Splitter will get a much more lucrative contract than 3/12.

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    A falta de oficializar la marcha de Splitter a los San Antonio Spurs, algo que debe concretarse como muy e el próximo día 15, el Baskonia se ha puesto a rastrear el mercado para hallar su recambio. "El mercado ofrece alternativas muy pequeñas y todas están fuera de nuestras posibilidades", ha aseverado.

    http://www.abc.es/agencias/noticia.asp?noticia=443011

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    A lack of progress Splitter formalize the San Antonio Spurs, something that should be put later on the 15th, the Baskonia has been tracking the market to find its replacement. "The options market offers very small and they are all beyond our means," he asserted.

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    A lack of progress Splitter formalize the San Antonio Spurs, something that should be put later on the 15th, the Baskonia has been tracking the market to find its replacement. "The options market offers very small and they are all beyond our means," he asserted.
    Thanks for the Google translation, but could someone else post a literal translation so we could better understand the statement? Thanks in advance.

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    1. How much leverage could he have had if he took substantially less money to sign in Minnesota than he could have received to stay in Europe?

    2. Minnesota won 15 games last year. They have Jefferson, Love, Milicic, and Hollins. How desperately did they really need Peckovic?

    We'll find out soon, but I'm certain Splitter will get a much more lucrative contract than 3/12.
    Pekovic could have stayed in Europe, playing for a contender team and have his money guaranteed.
    The money he is getting is slightly more than with Pana.

    Splitter has no choice really, but joining the Spurs, or Madrid in Europe.
    He played for a smallville second tier, with financial problems, and his "two years" left in his contract, signed in a pre-financial crisis era, are anything but guaranteed.
    So either he joins the Spurs at a 12M/3 -generous, actually- or he is heading to Madrid with a contract of 2 years max 7M (USD).
    Forget about his old contract, even in Madrid.
    The times for fat long term contracts are over in Europe, even for state-owned teams like Madrid.
    Splitter knows that quite well.

    It is possible that the Spurs offer him more.
    If I were Splitter, I would actually settle for a 2 years contract: if he fulfils his potential, he could well brake the coffers in two years time.

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    So either he joins the Spurs at a 12M/3 -generous, actually- or he is heading to Madrid with a contract of 2 years max 7M (USD).
    Your best guess. Time will tell.

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    I think the Spurs and Tiago are going ULTRA CIA in this one because there's no reports so far, nothing.
    We know McDonald is terrible but it's impossible to think that a reporter would not call an agent, that he knows well Herb Hudoy (Manu agent), to know what's going on.

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    I'm not sure if Splitter is taking a honeymoon but I doubt you will see many quotes or activity right now.

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    I think that the preseason game against Caja is a PRETTY STRONG signal he's joining the Spurs and the game is probably part of the agreement.

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