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Robinson was a good jump shooter even in his final year as a pro player.
Very nice analysis. While still waiting for the big news to come, this preview offers great insight into this guy's ability. Really appreciated timvp's effort in watching so many of Splitter's past games.
Robinson was a good jump shooter even in his final year as a pro player.
Robinson wasn't an effective jumpshooter at the end of his career. Re-watch the entire 2003 playoff run and find out for yourself.
I remember Robinson being successful with the jumper, but, not a "great" jump shooter.
I probably went through 25-30 games on tape in their entirity from the 01-02 to 02-03 seasons when I made a highlight vid of Robinson a few years back, his jumpshot was not dependable. I remember being slightly surprised by that. Those last two years is when he was basically reduced to finishing around the basket.
Thanks for correcting. I did not have too much database, but just had the Spurs "2002-2003 NBA Championship" DVD. From what I saw, most of his offensive ability which required athleticity has declined. Also he had to make way for Duncan and concentrate on D. As for his jumper, he didn't hit a high percentage but his shooting skills and form was decent, not much different from his early years.
Well said.
Exactly.
That's a good way to put it. A lot of his shots are the type of shots you'd expect out of the 50-year-old crafty veteran at the Y ... not a NBA level seven-footer. I did a lot of rewinding and asking myself "did Splitter really just shoot a two-foot no-look flip shot with a clear lane to the rim?" His shot selection will leave Spurs fans frustrated at times, guaranteed. (Well, assuming his signs, of course.)
Yeah, his athleticism is tough to measure. He's not fast. He doesn't jump that high. He's not that strong. However, he has quick feet, good flexibility and he looks like he should be athletic
The one big difference between the two is PJ was like an ox. Once he put his body on you, there was no moving him. Splitter doesn't have nearly as strong of a base ... but he's longer and more mobile so the potential to be a good defender is there.
Yeah his free throw shooting can get ugly.
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Very good point. His teammates all seem to love him. He seems to play with winning as his only goal. When things go wrong, his teammates turn to him to bail the team out. His intangibles, at least on film, appear to be very good.
So he can sign after July 8th? Im guessing the draft picks getting signed this week are the only ones allowed. Not draft picks from 3 years ago?
good question. Maybe because he would have to be signed with the MLE and the MLE can't be used until the 8th?
Limited dunks? Pop will love him!While Splitter is fully capable of authoring thunderous dunks, he does tend to use softer shots whenever possible. He's good at moving the ball around in the air to get good angles on layups. He also likes to shoot quick flip shots to catch the defense flatfooted. Though those softer tactics in the NBA can work, it usually comes with a transitional period to adjust to the superior athletes.
Manu and Tiago in one team!Flopping is another strength for Splitter. Although not quite the master of flopping like his countryman Anderson Varejao, he's not too far away. When either setting a pick or trying to get through a pick, Splitter is good at flailing and drawing fouls. He is willing and able to sacrifice his body under the rim to draw offensive fouls. To the future chagrin of NBA fans, Splitter is also good at taking a World Cup quality dive and fooling referees after pretending to get hit with an arrant elbow or forearm
Now this is what we need! We always get burned by Nash.Where Splitter shines on the defensive end is defending the pick-and-roll. He hedges very well and is able to pester point guards and then quickly return to his man. While I said he's not fast, Splitter is quick on his feet. That quickness is most apparent when he's switched onto a smaller defender on the perimeter. He wouldn't be able to defend small forwards on a full-time basis but he can do the necessary job when rotating out of the paint. Since Europe has a lot of bigmen who can shoot, Splitter has experience defending bigmen who like to hang out around the arc. He's not great at doing so but he's certainly far above average for a seven-footer.
Lots of weeping and gnashing of teeth if Sant Iago doesn't descend from the heavens this time and leaves the Spurs yet again bawling at the altar.
timvp, a couple of questions, if you don't mind:
1) Perhaps this has been addressed elsewhere on ST, but how would you rate Splitter if he were a free agent big man, instead of someone the Spurs had rights to? Would he be the #1 target for what you could get with the MLE?
2) In a room filled with carbon dioxide, with the proverbial championship window being our only source of oxygen, the Spurs would be lucky to get enough quality air to escape with minimal brain damage. With that perhaps unfortunate analogy in mind, and Splitter's presumed need for time for his game to translate to the NBA, would you say that adding him, while a good step for future teams, will not immediately upgrade the Spurs to the championship level, and if so, would trading his rights (while not something that I have heard bandied about) for someone with a more immediate impact be a wiser move (if for the forthcoming season only)?
3) If Splitter were not or does not come over this year, is it possible that in the short run the Spurs could be better, considering what else they could do with the MLE, or is Splitter rightly consider our best upgrade option this offseason?
Thank you for the analysis and insight.
update: Splitter's camp want the Spurs to make an offer quickly
http://projectspurs.com/2010-article...-an-offer.htmlWritten by Jeff Garcia
Wednesday, 07 July 2010 07:45
According to noticiasdealva.com, Tiago Splitter's camp has urged the San Antonio Spurs to move quickly to make him an offer as his July 15 2010, deadline approaches which grants Splitter an exit from his contract with Caja Laboral:
A poco más de una semana de plazo para que expire la fecha límite (15 de julio) que le permite acogerse a una cláusula de salida y rescindir su contrato con el Baskonia para las dos próximas temporadas, los agentes del pívot brasileño ya han apremiado a los Spurs para que trasladen en el menor tiempo posible una oferta satisfactoria que haga realidad el sueño del todavía integrante azulgrana de cruzar este verano el charco.
A little over a week to expiry of the deadline (July 15) that allows you to benefit from an exit clause and terminate his contract with Baskonia for the next two seasons, officials of the Brazilian power forward and have urged Spurs to move as quickly as possible a satisfactory offer to make the dream of Barca integral still crossing the pond this summer. (translated using Google Translate)
I hope the mid-level exception (MLE) is satisfactory for Splitter as the Spurs have the MLE which more than likely will be offered to Splitter.
Looks like there's no time to efffffaround here.Written by Jeff Garcia
Wednesday, 07 July 2010 07:45
According to noticiasdealva.com, Tiago Splitter's camp has urged the San Antonio Spurs to move quickly to make him an offer as his July 15 2010, deadline approaches which grants Splitter an exit from his contract with Caja Laboral:
A poco más de una semana de plazo para que expire la fecha límite (15 de julio) que le permite acogerse a una cláusula de salida y rescindir su contrato con el Baskonia para las dos próximas temporadas, los agentes del pívot brasileño ya han apremiado a los Spurs para que trasladen en el menor tiempo posible una oferta satisfactoria que haga realidad el sueño del todavía integrante azulgrana de cruzar este verano el charco.
A little over a week to expiry of the deadline (July 15) that allows you to benefit from an exit clause and terminate his contract with Baskonia for the next two seasons, officials of the Brazilian power forward and have urged Spurs to move as quickly as possible a satisfactory offer to make the dream of Barca integral still crossing the pond this summer. (translated using Google Translate)
I hope the mid-level exception (MLE) is satisfactory for Splitter as the Spurs have the MLE which more than likely will be offered to Splitter
I largely agree with Timvp's analysis.
As usual, as the guy knows about basketball.
With two caveats.
1) It's Quan ative, rather than Qualitative.
In reality, until the last series against Farsa, which Splitter dominated a-la Duncan03, one was left with some doubt about Splitter's capacity to come up big in big games.
Yes, the stats were there, but he was unable to be THE MAN for his team, expecially when he was needed the most. Witness a number of Euroleague games, finals etch.
2) It's more than questionable that he is the best center outside the NBA, let alone the best basketball player. Some would prefer Pekovic or Bouroussis, among centers.
Having said that, my anticipation is that if Manu is the post-ASG-pre-broken-nose Manu, the high PnR with Splitter will be absolutely devastating.
I hope his camp isn't expecting an offer before the tenth. I don't see it happening.
The only was Splitter does not sign is if the front office gets Sarveritis.
Any clue on when we will know whether or not Splitter is coming to our team?
Top notch, timvp, as usual.....
This is what i noticed during the last couple of seasons - he's really matured as a basketball player since being promoted from Scola's sidekick to central piece of his team.
While realizing Splitter cannot totally replace Duncan, it seems he can be at least a solid starter. Hope the FO can bring him over and the coaches finds a way to let him mesh with the team, (expectation on Pop).
How Duncan adjusts to his role this season is interesting. He no longer needs to carry the team like he did during the first half of the previous season while being worn out, and this is good for him.
He was consistent enough to draw his defender out of the post and quick enough to put the ball on the floor and drive to the rim. He was pretty much money from the right corner of the key.
The Spurs will be fortunate if Splitter is half the player Robinson was.
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