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Hard to believe that less than four years after the 9/11 tragedy that there's movies and TV shows being made about it.
I read a review on this and it's suppose to be kick ass.
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ch...1/preview.html
Hard to believe that less than four years after the 9/11 tragedy that there's movies and TV shows being made about it.
dude, 9-11 spawned a war! movies and tv shows are nothing
I don't get that channel... just basic cable + cable modem...
Would like to see this program.
i'm watching it right now
Me too! It's very enlightening.
MURPHY----It's you!!!!!
(great screenname, 2)
I had no idea Ramzi Yousef, the 1993 WTC bomber, was Khalid Sheikh Mohammeds ( operations chief for AQ and I believe now captured) , nephew. You know Terry Nichols ( OKC bomber ) supposedly met with Yousef in the phillipines where Yousef taught him how to make an ammonia nitrate bomb. The two bombs, ( 93 WTC and 95 OKC ) were built exactly the same way using exactly the same materials except they put, I believe sarin gas, in the first WTC (truck) bomb, but the blast burned it up.
OKC bombing is a fascinating topic and a huge coverup, imho.
Somebody had to teach him how to make an ammonium nitrate bomb? It's pretty damn simple.
This is probably bull , every two-bit pyromanic knows how to make an ammonium nitrate bomb, even before the advent of the internet.
I watched it and found it very interesting.
It was very interesting. It's unfortunate that when we get a truly decent man in office, like Colin Powell, he ends up getting screwed by our less honorable politicians.
What was the program about?
911. Starting from back in 1980.
I was hoping for a more indepth and detailed synopsis.
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/channel/inside911/
Basically goes back to how Al Queda was formed beginning from around 1980 up to the 911. Part II is tonight.
"Inside 9/11" follows the footsteps of the terrorists as they formulated their plans, infiltrated our country and executed their suicide missions. Tracing the timeline that led up to the deadly attacks, the mini-series deconstructs the events of that fateful day, tracking the movements of all four terrorist teams and patching together the ad hoc response of government. It draws from a wide range of sources, including newly declassified do ents from the 9/11 Commission investigation; over 60 original interviews with experts, whistleblowers, investigators and survivors -- some speaking out for the first time; eyewitness materials including footage culled from a rarely seen 400-hour archive; and chilling audio recordings from on board the doomed planes and inside air traffic control.
"Inside 9/11" also paints an unvarnished picture of fear and bravery, recounted in the first person. Heartbreaking interviews include that of Richard Picciotti, a battalion chief for the New York City Fire Department who was buried under the rubble for four hours and eventually rescued; Stanley Praimnath, who was in the South Tower when the plane hit, the wing smashing right into his office; and the widows of the fallen heroes of United Airlines Flight 93, who share their final conversations with the passengers right before they attempted to overtake the hijackers.
The show spans decades and circles the globe to lay bare the roots of al Qaeda, beginning with the 1978 Soviet-Afghan War and the transformation of Osama bin Laden from fundraiser to terrorist mastermind. Viewers will delve into the inner workings of al Qaeda and come to know the architects of the plot as they plan and execute the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, the 1998 embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania and the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole.
"Inside 9/11" also tackles the difficult questions about our intelligence efforts and their failure to protect us despite early warning signs that pointed to al Qaeda terrorists living in Tucson, Detroit, Chicago, Kansas City, Atlanta and Brooklyn as early as 1988. Expert analysis comes from inside the intelligence community, including Michael Scheuer, former CIA senior intelligence analyst and bin Laden expert, who says in the mini-series, "America has never had an enemy who has been more precise in warning us what we're in for."
The show also includes testimony pinpointing missed opportunities, such as that of former senator and chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee Bob Graham, who laments that "early on there was an FBI agent who had su ions about flight centers in Arizona ... none of those recommendations was followed ... the fact is that the FBI, from 1998 onward, had several of its own people saying that there was a very real, very specific threat involving Middle Eastern men in U.S. flight schools."
Investigative journalist and terrorism expert Steve Emerson adds, "9/11 occurred with 19 guys living here under their own names, registering their own driver's licenses, and yet able to outmaneuver a 30 billion dollar law enforcement intelligence agency network."
Why did the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) suppress information on security lapses identified by its own investigators and not take action after receiving 52 warnings that specifically mentioned attacks intended by bin Laden? "Inside 9/11" includes the first-person recollections of an FAA whistleblower, whose testimony to the 9/11 Commission was omitted from the final report. He testified that, "although we breached security with ridiculous ease up to 90 percent of the time, the FAA suppressed these warnings. Instead we were ordered not to write up our findings (in some cases) and not to retest airports where we found particularly egregious vulnerabilities to see if the problems had been fixed."
"Inside 9/11" asks the important questions: How did this happen? How can we make sure it never happens again? The mini-series looks at the work of the men and women who must answer these questions and figure out what's next in a much-changed world. This is the story of individual lives touched by tragedy, and of a nation that was forced to move in a few hours from delusions of invulnerability to belated vigilance.
It's a two-night series. Last night was devoted to the genesis of al Queda and the birth of bin Laden's desire to attack the United States, including the development of the plan to use commercial planes as bombs. Last night basically ran from 1979 through 9/10/01. Tonight will just be about the attacks of 9-11
Last night, the program made the argument that bin Laden truly aimed his sights at the United States after the Saudi royal family refused his offer to defend the Saudi homeland against Saddam in 1990-91, and chose the protection offered by the United States instead. It contends that bin Laden was emboldened by the success of the Mujahedeen in thwarting the Soviets in Afghanistan and believed that the same coalition of Islamic fighters could sufficiently repel Saddam's efforts to invade the Kingdom. According to the program, bin Laden believed that only Muslims should be permitted to defend the most holy sites in Islam from invasion. (as an aside, that theory certainly does cast some doubt about the validity of claims that bin Laden and Saddam were ever allied; bin Laden was, apparently, more than willing to fight Saddam to the death over Islamic ideals).
That's a bit simplistic, but it certainly seems to present a case that al Queda's terroristic intents, before the 1990-1991 timeframe, were primarily aimed at Jewish interests. For example, several interviewees on the program contend that the fall 1990 assassination of Mayer Kahane (a rabbi who was the leader of the Jewish Defense League; assassinated at a Manhattan hotel by a member of the al Farood mosque in Brooklyn) was among the first al Queda efforts. But, the program suggests that after Kahane's assassination -- the shooter was acquitted of murder charges -- the al Queda program became further emboldened.
Meanwhile, Khalid Sheik Mohammed ("KSM"), who had apparently been hazed while attending a Baptist college in North Carolina, and his nephew, Ramzi Yousef, had begun developing an interest in blowing up buildings in the United States. Yousef was a Wales-educated engineer who was keenly interested in bomb making. The program suggests that while KSM knew bin Laden while the Afghani war was ongoing, he wasn't a member of al Queda from its inception. Only when Yousef and KSM wanted funding to carry out their plans did they go back to bin Laden and ally with him directly.
The program contends that 9-11 was the consequence of Yousef's 1993 failure to bring down the Twin Towers. Yousef badly wanted to succeed and kept that idea at the top of his mind. In trying to devise a manner for succeeding, they batted around ideas for a while, eventually settling on the planes idea because one of bin Laden's confidants was licensed to fly commercial planes in the United States. They apparently tried the idea before 9-11 in France, desiring to fly a plane into the Eiffel Tower. But when that team tried to execute its plan, after hijacking the plane, they realized that nobody within their group could actually fly the plane. The pilots tricked the team, landed the plane, and the terrorists were killed. The failure in France lead to the idea of training pilots, along with muscle men, to carry out a wide-ranging attack.
I thought another interesting part of the story was something I had heard before, but never in such detail. The program explains that Zaid Jarrah, one of the 9-11 pilots, had some massive anxiety about the attack, and had even told his family that he had bought a new suit because he would be attending a wedding in Lebanon on 9-22-01. Apparently, Mohammed Atta, the 9-11 leader, had some misgivings about Jarrah's commitment and had some big-time concerns that Jarrah would pull out of the plot and might tell authorities about the plan. It doesn't make clear what, if anything, truly changed Jarrah's mind (if it needed changing at all).
There's much, much more, but that seems to me to detail the case the program makes for why 9-11 happened from al Queda's end. The program also details the opportunities that US intelligence missed to capture bin Laden and to uncover the 9-11 plot; most of that, though, was material that has been reported extensively in other contexts.
It's worth watching. It will replay tonight at 6, with the second part airing at 8 on National Geographic Explorer (if you have Time Warner Cable, it's on channel 57).
Bummer, no cable. But maybe I can get somebody to record it for me. It sounds pretty much like information that is already avaiable and been read to death, but maybe a mainstream production for the American people and they'll realize that there is a method to the madness that should be understood rather than played off as "evil".
I found it very enlightening. I guess I haven't been doing my reading.
I learned some new information.
exactly, lots of facts I never heard, especially that one where Pakistani New York school students said "Next week those towers wont be there". That scared the out of me.
i think it requires a little more skill to make a bomb capable of the disaster that was the OKC bombing
or else i would have blown something up long ago
Uh, nope. It's quite easy to do. The scale of it makes it a little harder.
I could be wrong, but I thought they said that they were making the channel available to non-cable subscribers for the two nights the show is on. They're replaying part one tonight before they show part two.
i guess i did a ty job of making that my point
No doubt there is a well thought out method behind the madness of Osama and the terrorists . . . but it is also evil (I know manny you don't like the word, but it fits the description of the terrorists as a key fits a lock).
It makes it harder only from a logistical/cost standpoint. The ingredients are quite simple, and anyone can do a simple reaction equation to get the right ratios, which are the same if it is 1 lb or 10,000 lbs.
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