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    When I say upset, I mean where no one expects a team to have a chance. All Western teams outside of LA were evenly matched, so one beating the other isn't an upset.

    In the NBA, there are 2-3 teams (on a very rare occasion 4) that have a chance at winning a championship. In the NFL there are surprise contenders every year. It's actually true that anything can happen in the NFL playoffs. In the NBA not so much.
    giants had a legit chance over cowboys

    cardinals had a legit chance over panthers

    jets had a legit chance over chargers

    the only true upsets of the decade in the NFL, where people thought the team had NO chance (as you put it) was Giants over Pats, and Pats over Rams.

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    last year

    houston over portland
    orlando over boston
    orlando over cleveland


    evenly matched team with a 5 seed over evenly matched team with a 4 seed

    WHAT AN UPSET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    LOL im glad he went there if they fail it will be hilarious ...if they make finals we have the first truly star packed finals ...of recent years ...

    Kobe, Pau and Phil vs. young Money

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    Sons there's no point of being an LA fan either, how the is any team supposed to beat this super team?


    In the past, there was something called "guts" which prevented franchise players from pussying out and teaming with other franchise players.

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    What Duncan did in 2003 is something Lebron will never do.
    You're right. Winning a championship in a weak year of basketball. Basketball today is FAR stronger than it was in early 2000s.

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    if you had to win a race and the choices of transportation was between a bike and a car, only a re ed person would choose the bike. even lance armstrong would choose the car.

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    Those aren't upsets. I don't care what their seeding was, those are evenly matched teams playing each other.

    An upset is if someone knocked off the Lakers. And upset is if Charlotte somehow beat Orlando. And upset is a truly inferior team finding a way to beat the superior team.

    Upsets don't happen in the NBA. Well twice in seven years.
    twice in 10 years for NFL. the only two teams that seemed to have no chance at winning, but won, were Giants over Pats and Pats over Rams

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    giants had a legit chance over cowboys

    cardinals had a legit chance over panthers

    jets had a legit chance over chargers

    the only true upsets of the decade in the NFL, where people thought the team had NO chance (as you put it) was Giants over Pats, and Pats over Rams.

    saying the Cards had a legit chance. Everyone on ESPN said they were gonna get their s chopped off and put in a meat grinder.

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    evenly matched team with a 5 seed over evenly matched team with a 4 seed

    WHAT AN UPSET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    just going by definition, the same way DoK was by saying Jets over Chargers this year, or Cardinals over Panthers the previous year. that was simply a matter of seeding and slightly better record

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    saying the Cards had a legit chance. Everyone on ESPN said they were gonna get their s chopped off and put in a meat grinder.
    ESPN

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    stretch, are you seriously trying to argue that there are as many upsets in the NBA playoffs as there are in the NFL playoffs?

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    just going by definition, the same way DoK was by saying Jets over Chargers this year, or Cardinals over Panthers the previous year. that was simply a matter of seeding and slightly better record

    Panthers were 12-4, Cardinals were 9-7 only because of a 6-0 record in a weakass division. Being 3 games better with a much stronger schedule in a 16 game schedule is a slightly better record?

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    just going by definition, the same way DoK was by saying Jets over Chargers this year, or Cardinals over Panthers the previous year. that was simply a matter of seeding and slightly better record
    so a 9 win team beating a 12 win team isn't an upset?

    That's like a 45 win team beating a 60 win team in the NBA. That's an upset that ALMOST NEVER HAPPENS in the NBA.

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    What Duncan did in 2003 is something Lebron will never do.
    It's almost never been done before in NBA history. Maybe one of the Rocket teams with Hakeem did as much with as little, but almost no one else.

    Even so: Parker, Manu, David, SJax, and the rest of that supporting cast would still have eaten the modern day Cavs ALIVE if Duncan and LeBron didn't play. Can you imagine Varejao trying to rebound against Malik Rose? AV would have had two techs in the first quarter the way Rose would have harassed him. Not to mention Bowen was on that team.

    LeBron has never played with anyone near the caliber of Parker OR Manu.

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    '08 Cardinals over '08 Panthers
    '07 Giants over '07 Patriots
    '07 Giants over '07 Cowboys
    '09 Jets over '09 Chargers
    '01 CHEATriots () over '01 Rams

    I can think of a bunch more and it took all of 30 seconds to come up with those upsets off the top of my head.


    I like how you put the year before BOTH teams.

    "'09 49ers over '93 Cowboys...now THAT was an upset."

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    stretch, are you seriously trying to argue that there are as many upsets in the NBA playoffs as there are in the NFL playoffs?
    absolutely not.

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    so a 9 win team beating a 12 win team isn't an upset?

    That's like a 45 win team beating a 60 win team in the NBA. That's an upset that ALMOST NEVER HAPPENS in the NBA.
    If playoffs in the NBA were one game (or even 3 games), you'd see a ton of upsets in the playoffs. 8 seeds would be winning it all with frequency.

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    I like how you put the year before BOTH teams.

    "'09 49ers over '93 Cowboys...now THAT was an upset."

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    It's almost never been done before in NBA history. Maybe one of the Rocket teams with Hakeem did as much with as little, but almost no one else.

    Even so: Parker, Manu, David, SJax, and the rest of that supporting cast would still have eaten the modern day Cavs ALIVE if Duncan and LeBron didn't play. Can you imagine Varejao trying to rebound against Malik Rose? AV would have had two techs in the first quarter the way Rose would have harassed him. Not to mention Bowen was on that team.

    LeBron has never played with anyone near the caliber of Parker OR Manu.

    lol revising history and discounting what Duncan did to suit your argument.

    Can I imagine Varejao trying to rebound against Malik Rose? No, a 7 footer grabbing a rebound over someone 5 inches shorter than he is is something I'm incapable of seeing.

    In 2003, Parker was a 2nd year player who Greg Popovich loved so much he was ready to sign Jason Kidd as the new PG once the season was over. Ginobili was making his NBA debut and he averaged 7 PPG. Antwan Jamison is a way better player than either 2003 Parker or Manu. Mo Williams isn't any worse than 2003 Parker.

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    lol revising history and discounting what Duncan did to suit your argument.

    Can I imagine Varejao trying to rebound against Malik Rose? No, a 7 footer grabbing a rebound over someone 5 inches shorter than he is is something I'm incapable of seeing.

    In 2003, Parker was a 2nd year player who Greg Popovich loved so much he was ready to sign Jason Kidd as the new PG once the season was over. Ginobili was making his NBA debut and he averaged 7 PPG. Antwan Jamison is a way better player than either 2003 Parker or Manu. Mo Williams isn't any worse than 2003 Parker.
    talk about revising history, when the guy was aquired in a midseason trade and didnt fit in whatsoever

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    If playoffs in the NBA were one game (or even 3 games), you'd see a ton of upsets in the playoffs. 8 seeds would be winning it all with frequency.
    The format means everything. Whenever it all hinges on a single game, anything can happen. When it takes 4 to win, the psychological and physical limitations of the inferior team get exposed almost inevitably.

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    talk about revising history, when the guy was aquired in a midseason trade and didnt fit in whatsoever

    I never said he was a good fit. I said he was a better player than 2003 Parker or Manu.

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    As several people already mentioned, I merely hate the way he handled everything. Setting CLE fans up for such devestation...live. I don't blame him for wanting the easier path to the 'chip. I DO, however, hold him accountable for THIS statement:

    'My heart will always be around that area. But I also felt like this is the greatest challenge for me, is to move on.'

    Really, 'Bron? Going to Miami is more challenging?

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