Yeah I just looked in my PM box - don't have it. You can email me at [email protected]
Kori also makes another point that I have. Why pay a guy that you can live without and not take a significant hit on your short-term/long-term goals, who does not fit and who does not want to be here? Makes very little sense to me.
Then again, neither does outbidding yourself on Bonner.
Ok, will do.
I'll just copy n paste what I sent to your pm box.
Tiago is better than Dice? You're kidding me. How do you know? He hasn't played a second of nba ball.
lol @ outbidding yourself on bonner
Half the the people you listed was better because they're a year older (Hill, Jefferson, Blair). An old Dice is going to be better than Ian because ???... And Tiago is a big unknown. Saying he's going to be better than Dice is also ???
As far as Anderson we agree. The bar set by Mason is not that hight to begin with.
I'd rather have Jefferson be a bad fit than a scrub for the LLE start.
DPG I'm with you mostly on this topic but I disagree with you here. I don't really see any attainable UFA options that would benefit the Spurs now more than Jefferson. I agree he's a terrible fit but I don't see too many guys left that are a better fit for this season.
I maintain the ideal scenario was to trade RJ for a TE and then turn that TE into Morrow or Matthews. However since that seems terribly unlikely at this point, I think RJ is the best SF option for next year.
Still we are in agreement that he will kill them in years 2 through whatever, and the Spurs should have (and hopefully did) exhaust every possible avenue to getting something of value for him.
I can only attest for on the court, but watching out there makes me want to puke at how horrible a fit he is in the Spurs system.
Maybe something 'creative' could be done for next year I guess.
*shrugs*
DUDE SERIOUSLY.. I NOW CLAIM DPG21920 is as sourpuss and annoying as his avatar in this site!!!!!.
Man Definetely he ok last season and yes you will eat your words. As much i didnt like Jefferson last season he will do ok!! He will not average 19-20 points because we have a lot of option to score next season!! Pay attention to the intangible that he will do next season!! He will improve and many years to come.
I'm just surprised about one thing...with re-signing RJ, signing Splitter, and re-signing Bonner, they put themselves back in luxury tax territory. I'm just kind of shocked that Holt would want to play the luxury tax just to keep Bonner...Matt must be really good friends with Duncan
I would assume one of two things or maybe both
1) The contracts will put the Spurs right up to the tax but not over it
2) Someone else is moving on.
Actually I think DPG has the coolest avatar of anyone here...
If it's 3 years, I can somewhat understand... but if he dropped $15 million, then that means he would need to be making at least $6-7 million to make it worth it.
If they offered 5 years I'm going to puke. A lot.
seriously? a bad fit KILLS your team...like it did last year.
That logic leads me to believe you think JJ Barea is better than John Wall. Splitter played at the highest level in Europe just like Manu Ginobili did and both won MVP.
So did Juan Carlos Navarro and Walter Hermann...
Is he gay? I know I'm gonna have people saying it's none of our business and that it shouldn't matter...blah blah. But if he is, it might explain why he was treated kind of strange by NJ team mates and why he hasn't really fit in in SA. Im not saying it's right...it's just the way things are.
meant to say above dbestpro that i was not directing my post at you per say, just that several have posted how Popped is "working one on one with RJ".
As you said, when the Numb Nutts in charge asked him to play PF, not surprising that did not work out well. However s rebounds per minutes sucked, and that's even if he was asked to play center.
As to 1st year Spurs stuggling, i think that is a myth used to cover over Popped. (again, not by you per say). His offense has no figuring out to do, throw the ball to Tim and Stand n Veg. Defense, while it was complicated.....
GNob, Brent Barrdog, Man From Nazr, Franky Elson.
In fact Man From Nazr only played 23 reg season games before doing fine in the Championship 2005 Tall Balls playoff run. In fact Brent Barrdog and Nazr made two new Spurs on the floor at the same time.
Championship.
I didn't saw Smith's that writing, if it's true we have no shot for Shaq. I'm curious about which contender team is going to offer MLE to Shaq?
Miami? No MLE.
Boston? They used MLE
Lakers? No chance and they used MLE.
Orlando? They used MLE
Only Dallas and Atlanta may offer MLE to him, and if he joins one of them for money, it's weird.
Hill will be better because that's what good players do, they get better. Like how he got better from his rookie year to his second year.
Blair will be better because he'll know the system and have a years worth of experience.
I said hopefully Jefferson is better because it'll be his second year with the Spurs and historically players take a year to get with it.
Because Dice has produced throughout his NBA career while Ian, for whatever reason, hasn't.An old Dice is going to be better than Ian because ???...
Yes, it's a stretch for me to proclaim someone regarded as the best big man overseas who just won a championship and MVP to be better than Dice. Come on now.And Tiago is a big unknown. Saying he's going to be better than Dice is also ???
I don't think we can make that conclusion until we see the details of the contracts. Spurs had 6 guys guaranteed at $51 million, which gave them $19 million to play with. If Splitter got $5 mil, Bonner $3 mil, and Jefferson $7 mil, that's still $4 million to play with to get 4 roster spots. Considering the Gee/Temple/Hairston/Jerrells in the pipeline, as well as Anderson and maybe Richards, $1 mil per spot for 4 spots is very do-able.I'm just surprised about one thing...with re-signing RJ, signing Splitter, and re-signing Bonner, they put themselves back in luxury tax territory. I'm just kind of shocked that Holt would want to play the luxury tax just to keep Bonner...Matt must be really good friends with Duncan
Actually i take that back LAKAlUVA has the most annoying AVATAR ever!! It suites him though
I don't know, but I think it has more to do with his love for NY/NJ. He seems to really want to go back.
Point is sometimes it's about the expectations. I expect Tiago Splitter to be pretty darn good from what I've seen. Not an All-Star, but definitely a legit NBA starting center. I expect him to be All-NBA Rookie Team for sure.So did Juan Carlos Navarro and Walter Hermann...
So now you believe me. I wasn't just making stuff up.
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