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  1. #51
    KoriEllis
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    Of course everyone is disappointed that the Spurs didn't land a "star" player. I don't think anyone can say that aren't. But the stars were long-shots at best. I think the main reason that some are extremely disappointed is because we were told that Jason Kidd was a lock for so long.

    He was never a lock. Not even close.

    Was this off season a total bust? Maybe, but probably not. I am reserving an opinion on that until I see how Rasho pans out.

    As far as the "Holting Pattern" goes, people are ridiculous for ing about it now. Bottom line is that Spurs won a Championship during it. Would they have won it if they weren't in the Holting Pattern? Probably not. Because even the slightest things change the final outcome of things in life.

    Be thankful for the Championship. Be disappointed in the lack of a star. And be happy we aren't Laker fans worrying about Kobe going to jail.

    Spurs management will put the Spurs in the position to make another run at the le.

  2. #52
    Cassius Clay
    Guest
    How long will it be until Ghost starts asking why the Spurs "don't have a credible criminal on the team"?

    I, for one, can't wait.

  3. #53
    ducks
    Guest
    the spurs wanted the cap room to be able to get some one when david retired. I think it was a smart move. they got players that put them in postion to win every year. and they even won it. how many team did that ?

  4. #54
    Ghost Writer
    Guest
    Kori, usually I agree with what you say, but acting like the Holt-ing Pattern resulted in giving us a le is like saying because you purposely starved yourself, I was able to fit into that tight dress.

    The intent of the Holt-ing Pattern was to bring in a star this summer — not to win a le last year.

    If we made trades or free agent signings for star power along the way, we could've won more than one le and have a better team this season.

    It cracks me up how everyone admits now that signing astar would be a long shot.

    If we all knew this, how come so many of you supported the Holt-ing Pattern?




    Question.


  5. #55
    Cassius Clay
    Guest
    The intent of the Spurs rebuilding plan was to give Tim Duncan a reason to stay in San Antonio. Do you not remember the Spurs stated desire to "get younger" in 2001?

    Would the Spurs have been happy had they landed a star this summer? Sure. That doesn't mean that was the ultimate reason for their rebuilding plans.

    Now we see that the Spurs rebuilding plans resulted in a championship with a young core group of players and that the Spurs will be keeping that group pretty much intact in addition to adding a replacement for DRob and with the possibility of bolstering the bench here shortly.

    And yet you complain.

    You know what? Go **** yourself. You make everyone miserable anytime they read this damn forum thanks to all your whiney ass babble about God knows what. Go be miserable about something else. If you can't handle the 'stress' of being a Spurs fan that's not my ing problem.

  6. #56
    KoriEllis
    Guest
    The intent of the Holt-ing Pattern was to bring in a star this summer — not to win a le last year.
    I agree Ghost, that's why I said we are disappointed in not getting a star.

    I am not saying that BECAUSE OF the Holting Pattern we won the Championship; I'm saying that DURING the Holting Pattern we won the Championship. That's a fact.

    You cannot guarantee me if the Spurs never went into the Holting Pattern and instead traded and picked up FA's along the way to 2003 that they would have won a le.

    Yes, prying stars away from their own teams was always a long shot. But trying for the long shot was better than not trying at all in my opinion.

  7. #57
    Ghost Writer
    Guest
    You're full of sh1t, Cassius.

    The Holt-ing Pattern was a cap-clearing plan to bring in a star. Period.

    Clearing cap space for summer 2003 had nothing to do with winning last season.



  8. #58
    Cassius Clay
    Guest
    Ghost didn't give a damn about developing young talent he wanted to see it all shipped out as part of his Blow It All Now strategy. Now all he's left with is that the Spurs didn't mean to win a championship with the young players.



    Good, you worry about that. I'll celebrate the Spurs second championship.

  9. #59
    Ed Helicopter Jones
    Guest
    acting like the Holt-ing Pattern resulted in giving us a le is like saying because you purposely starved yourself, I was able to fit into that tight dress. -GW


    Interesting analogy.

  10. #60
    Cassius Clay
    Guest
    The reason the Spurs pursued cap flexibility this summer was to help them adjust to life without David Robinson. If they got a star, great. If not, then if they got a replacement for him then that works too.

    I don't understand how the **** this is so damn awful. Yet all we see from you is ing about the Spurs winning a le and making runs at franchise level free agents. And this is on top of developing a young core of players and having the two-time MVP (age 27) agree to a seven year contract. You act as though the Spurs were doing nothing. Well apparently that was not the case.

    And now you continue to whine. Shut up man. I'm ing sick of it and plenty of others here have said the same thing about you. Stop it. We are not here to babysit you.

  11. #61
    adidas11
    Guest
    Does Cassius=SpursFan=MarcusBryant=Arhchie=Dognasty????

    QUESTION.

  12. #62
    scott
    Guest
    The intent of the Holt-ing Pattern was to bring in a star this summer — not to win a le last year.
    The intent of the "Holting Pattern," like any other move the Spurs have ever made or will make, was to win championships. Getting a star this summer may have been viewed as a possible means to achieving that end- but getting a star was not the end.

    The fact is we won our second championship, and are still prime contenders to win more. As long as we remain real players in the le race, our front office is successful. Would have adding a second star make things easier? Probably. Does not getting one make us failures? Only if you are a assed complainer.

  13. #63
    MannyIsGod
    Guest
    Why is addidas the only one on ghosts side? Man,you know you're a ed up spurs fan when the Laker fan has to defend you.

  14. #64
    CosmicCowboyXXX
    Guest
    Does Cassius=SpursFan=MarcusBryant=Arhchie=Dognasty????
    yep...

    answer

  15. #65
    Cassius Clay
    Guest
    Does adidas = Ghost's boy toy?

  16. #66
    Ghost Writer
    Guest


    Guys, please don't act like we won the le last year because we cleared cap space.

    And don't act all high and mighty like you weren't counting on a star signing this summer.



  17. #67
    MannyIsGod
    Guest
    Then why did we win the le ghost?

  18. #68
    Cassius Clay
    Guest


    The just doesn't stop.

  19. #69
    Ghost Writer
    Guest
    We won the le because Popovich finally intergrated some youth and athleticism into the rotation instead of putting too much faith into the old guys like Ferry and Smitty, Manny.





    P.S.

    Cassius, bring some subtance or STFU. If we did things your way, the Spurs would have started Steve Smith all last season and we'd have 4 Cavs bench players on our team right now you double-talking, revisionist S.O.B. Are you and Manny an item?

  20. #70
    MannyIsGod
    Guest
    wait wait, youth and athleticism, you mean the kind you wanted to trade away over hte past 2 years?

    do me a ing favor, stfu bedcause your arguements are idiotic.

    You tell other people like truth they won't be missed, but the truth is there is a reason the only person supporting your idiotic view is a laker fan, it is YOU who woudln't be missed.

    But don't let your forum ego in on that secret.

  21. #71
    Cassius Clay
    Guest
    Ghost, stop posting your whiney rants or leave. I'm not the only one who is sick and ing tired of seeing you use this forum to deal with your manic depression. Plenty of other regulars here have told me that they are tired of it as well. If you can't be happy now you will never be happy. Stop trying to make other people miserable because of that.

  22. #72
    Whottt
    Guest
    Winning a le means that signing a superstar became less of a need.

    The actual intent of the holting pattern was to put enough talent around Duncan to win a le and keep him from leaving.

    And in that aspect our FO was sucessful, maybe not as a direct result of the holting pattern, but because of efforts being made on other fronts

  23. #73
    Cassius Clay
    Guest
    We won the le because Popovich finally intergrated some youth and athleticism into the rotation instead of putting too much faith into the old guys like Ferry and Smitty, Manny.
    Are you really this dense? On the one hand you complain that the Spurs kept their young talent and then on the other you about Pop's reluctance to play young talent. That makes no sense whatsoever for a critic of the rebuilding process.

  24. #74
    scott
    Guest
    I'd miss you, Ghost.

  25. #75
    Ghost Writer
    Guest
    Manny, is it difficult to type with your head in Cassius' lap?

    Manny, you have no idea what trades I would've wanted. You're just another in a long line of anonymous posters that I've butchered over the years. I've forgot more than you'll know about the Spurs.

    I mentioned Jackson as a free agent acquisition when he was with the Nets. I never had any intention of trading away Manu.

    Yes, I would've traded Parker and Rose for Payton. I think an All-Star would do well next to Duncan.



    Cassius, why did you invent countless trade scenarios during the Holt-ing Pattern?



    Question, coward.




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