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    Actually, you can find people who can shoot 40% from 3 when wide open, under no pressure on just about any court in the world..... it's people who can play at an NBA level in other areas and still do that, that are hard to find. Bonner doesn't fall into that catagory.

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    I ing hate Matt Bonner. I don't know what it is..

    Maybe it's because he's a ginger.

    Maybe because he looks like a got running the court.

    Maybe it's because of his t-rex arms.

    Maybe it's because he gets worked by whoever he's guarding.

    Maybe it's because he's the most un-athletic NBA player in the league.

    Maybe it's because he keeps ing choking in the playoffs.


    ..... but everything about that white boy pisses me the off.


    I don't hate the guy, I feel sorry for him. His shooting mechanics are so terrible its not hard to see why his shot always fails him with any amount of defensive pressure or any type of pressure really (playoffs, etc)

    Defensively, the officials don't allow the guy to body anybody, contest shots (almost guaranteed foul if Bonner's arm/hand is even close to the shooter)

    And confidence is everything with this guy, and unfortunately it tends to dissappear at the most important times.

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    I don't hate him either. I just think it was time to move on from him. One would that because of the FO's assinine allegiance to this guy, you would think that he WAS actually a Robert Horry-type contributor. He's actually been quite the opposite.

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    The Spurs should not hang on to dead weight like Bonner for the sake of stability. I think I'd prefer Mason as long as he not playing pg. At least he had the ability to hit some big shots in big regular season games. And he doesn't compromise the interior defense as Bonner does.

    I can't remember 1 big shot that Bonner's ever hit - regular season much less during the playoffs. I'd take my chances with Duncan over Bonner if we need a 3 in the playoffs.

    If Shaq doesn't go to the Heat and there's the slightest chance that he might go to SA, re-signing Bonner jeopardizes that chance. I don't think Shaq's ego could stomach being on a team where Matt Bonner is making twice as much as he is and 6 bigs? Not enough minutes to go around.

    Does anyone think that Bonner being re-signed is the front office's over-reaction to the Spurs being swept by the Suns and the barrage of 3s rained down on them - especially by Channing Frye?
    Could be. Very likely. Thing is, Frye's shooting mechanics are much more sound and the guy is 3x the athlete of Bonner which makes him a much more capable defender who doesn't also have a bullseye on his back with the officials. Better passer too. How the spurs' F.O. thinks Bonner is worth almost as much as Frye is beyond me.

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    I don't hate him either. I just think it was time to move on from him. One would that because of the FO's assinine allegiance to this guy, you would think that he WAS actually a Robert Horry-type contributor. He's actually been quite the opposite.
    I hate him!

    And I wonder....



    If Matt Bonner suddenly "disappears," would we be able to recoup that money pledged to him and sign some one else???



    you, Matt Bonner!

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    I don't hate the guy, I feel sorry for him. His shooting mechanics are so terrible its not hard to see why his shot always fails him with any amount of defensive pressure or any type of pressure really (playoffs, etc)

    Defensively, the officials don't allow the guy to body anybody, contest shots (almost guaranteed foul if Bonner's arm/hand is even close to the shooter)

    And confidence is everything with this guy, and unfortunately it tends to dissappear at the most important times.
    EXCELLENT POST. I've been going on about Bonner's shooting mechanics a lot last season.

    People wonder why he can't hit a shot under any sort of pressure and I really do think it's got a lot to do with his really terrible shooting mechanics. Add a little loss of confidence to those shooting mechanics and you've got some shots that are NOT EVEN CLOSE in pressure situations.

    The other stuff about fouls is pretty spot on too. I've also said Bonner is an escort service, and an AND1 machine for the other team. You are also correct that a lot of those fouls are BS, but the fact that they call them all the time just shows that the refs don't respect him at all and they likely never will. A lot of this isn't Matt Bonner's fault, but it is still a detriment to the team and the Spurs should know all this, yet they have given him a raise. Why?

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    How the spurs' F.O. thinks Bonner is worth almost as much as Frye is beyond me.


    The Spurs (reportedly) are getting Bonner for basically half of what Frye got. How is that worth almost as much?

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    I hate him!

    And I wonder....



    If Matt Bonner suddenly "disappears," would we be able to recoup that money pledged to him and sign some one else???



    you, Matt Bonner!
    Unfortunately, signing Bonner is not using up any of our Exceptions since we have his Bird Rights.

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    The Spurs (reportedly) are getting Bonner for basically half of what Frye got. How is that worth almost as much?
    Half of Frye's new salary would have been what Bonner earned last season. Hate to break it to you, but Bonner's new contract calls for a significant raise.

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    Half of Frye's new salary would have been what Bonner earned last season. Hate to break it to you, but Bonner's new contract calls for a significant raise.
    Frye just signed a 5 yr/$30M deal. Bonner's new deal is "reportedly" slightly more than what he made last year - most believing it to be 4 yr/~$14M-$15M. Are you insinuating that Bonner's deal will be significantly more than that? If so and you end up being right, I'll cross sides and grab a torch and pitchfork with you.

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    Got damn it this mofo!

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    Frye just signed a 5 yr/$30M deal. Bonner made $3.2M last year, so how is that half of Frye's new deal? Bonner's new deal is "reportedly" slightly more than what he made last year - most believing it to be 4 yr/~$14M-$15M. Are you insinuating that Bonner's deal will be significantly more than that? If so and you end up being right, I'll cross sides and grab a torch and pitchfork with you.
    Who would of signed Bonner besides his sandwich eating grandma?

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    Who would of signed Bonner besides his sandwich eating grandma?
    There were four teams supposedly interested, but I guess to answer your question ... the Spurs.

    Anyways, how do you know his grandma eats sandwiches?

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    Matt Bonner haters are gonna blow their brains out coz they know he's gonna have a few of those games where he will absolutely shoot the lights out. and because of that, Pop will play him more. it has always happened. and it's gonna happen again.

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    Matt Bonner haters are gonna blow their brains out coz they know he's gonna have a few of those games where he will absolutely shoot the lights out. and because of that, Pop will play him more. it has always happened. and it's gonna happen again.
    You're probably right - but I hope that those few games that he shoots the lights out come in the Playoffs for a change.

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    Matt Bonner haters are gonna blow their brains out coz they know he's gonna have a few of those games where he will absolutely shoot the lights out. and because of that, Pop will play him more. it has always happened. and it's gonna happen again.
    Unfortunately for Bonner, those "lights out" shooting performances that you're speaking of, will probably come during meaningless regular season games versus the likes of the Clippers, Kings or Warriors. Nobody is gonna "blow their brains out" or get excited about a steller shooting performance by Bonner against the "dregs" of the NBA.

    We ALL know that Bonner has proven incapable of shooting well during the playoffs. In fact, the bigger the game, the more he shrinks. Why Pop and the coaching staff choose to ignore this fact, is beyond me?

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    Who would of signed Bonner besides his sandwich eating grandma?
    Not sure. I'm not convinced a true championship team would want Bonner. As financially conscious as the Spurs are, I also never thought they would be the team to "overpay" for a fringe rotation player like Bonner.

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    I hope cliff-jumping fans are ready for some 15-20 mpg Bonner action. Gut feeling also says that Splitter wont play next to Duncan as much as people hope.

    How much does the FO value spacing? Best case is Splitter just plain outplays Bonner and Pop has no choice but to limit bon-bon. This offseason is too long, I want to know what Pop is going to do now, not in November....

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    Matt Bonner haters are gonna blow their brains out coz they know he's gonna have a few of those games where he will absolutely shoot the lights out. and because of that, Pop will play him more. it has always happened. and it's gonna happen again.
    Probably. He'll be confident Matt Bonner until something happens to dislodge that confidence (a pressure filled playoff game for example) and he'll curl up into a fetal position and transform into Matt Boner: man who cannot shoot, pass, or otherwise dribble without a turnover.

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    This is a monumental failure perhaps only surpassed by the Scola disaster.
    I guess the Spurs FO figures it's not even worth trying anymore.

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    Bonner supporters will be ecstatic when he becomes a rotation player again two seasons from now. I'm so happy that Bonner will be replacing McDyess once he retires. Then we'll be blessed to see Bonner get out-rebounded and scored upon time after time. He'll be 32 then, so he'll be in his athletic prime to be a Spur. Maybe they'll even bring him back as a defensive coach?

    What about Ryan Richard? Well, he'll remain overseas for the next year or two. Then, he'll need a little bit of developing and familiarity with the Spurs system, so he'll play in Austin for a year or two. Pop still won't trust his raw talent over Matt Bonner's superior "corporate knowledge." So, he'll ride the pine until Matt's contract is up in 2014.

    It'll look like Ryan's chance is finally here with Matt finally off the roster. But, Ryan's a free-agent too because the Spurs failed to pick up his minuscule option. Pop and R.C. not feeling comfortable with letting a guy go with such strong "corporate knowledge," plus the ability to stretch the court for Splitter/Blair, will rather resign their grizzled veteran Bonner to a 3 year/$9 million deal.

    Get ready for 34-year old Bonner and his three-point marksmanship for another three years.

    Last edited by J_Paco; 07-11-2010 at 04:28 AM.

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    Bonner supporters will be ecstatic when he becomes a rotation player again two seasons from now. I'm so happy that Bonner will be replacing McDyess once he retires. Then we'll be blessed to see Bonner get out-rebounded and scored upon time after time. He'll be 32 then, so he'll be in his athletic prime to be a Spur. Maybe they'll even bring him back as a defensive coach?

    What about Ryan Richard? Well, he'll remain overseas for the next year or two. Then, he'll need a little bit of developing and familiarity with the Spurs system, so he'll play in Austin for a year or two. Pop still won't trust his raw talent over Matt Bonner's superior "corporate knowledge." So, he'll ride the pine until Matt's contract is up in 2014.

    It'll look like Ryan's chance is finally here with Matt finally off the roster. But, Ryan's a free-agent too because the Spurs failed to pick up his minuscule option. Pop and R.C. not feeling comfortable with letting a guy go with such strong "corporate knowledge," plus the ability to stretch the court for Splitter/Blair, will rather resign their grizzled veteran Bonner to a 3 year/$9 million deal.

    Get ready for 34-year old Bonner and his three-point marksmanship for another three years.

    By that time (Bonner resigns in 2013) Grizzly Blair will be long gone, having demanded a trade somewhere else where he can get steady PT.

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    By that time (Bonner resigns in 2013) Grizzly Blair will be long gone, having demanded a trade somewhere else where he can get steady PT.

    Yet, I'm okay with that because the three-point king will still be here. Long live Matt Bonner, long live our three-point champion!!!!

    He's so damn great, he doesn't even need to play defense or rebound the ball!!

    Hopefully, in 2012 they trade Timmy to bring in players to support Matt and his great shooting.

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    Yet, I'm okay with that because the three-point king will still be here. Long live Matt Bonner, long live our three-point champion!!!!

    He's so damn great, he doesn't even need to play defense or rebound the ball!!

    Hopefully, in 2012 they trade Timmy to bring in players to support Matt and his great shooting.


    Matty will have Splitter, that should be enough by Pop's standards. Pop will be content having Splitter holding the interior fort by himself. He'll be an nba burnout by age 30 and developing arthritis and knee problems by then. But thank god we'll have a still healthy Matty Bonner notching his yearly 40% from 3pt.

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