I always thought Butler would make a good Spur. Good size for a 3 and very long. Plays decent defense and can stroke the 3. He could probably be had for cheap too.
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I always thought Butler would make a good Spur. Good size for a 3 and very long. Plays decent defense and can stroke the 3. He could probably be had for cheap too.
agree.
he also brings very good size for a SF and decent length. (6'6.75'' without shoes, 7' wingspan).
but cheap? not sure. he made 4 million, I think he will command similar money and the Clippers will offer him such an extension. he played a more than decent season for them and they don't have a single wing under contract for next season.
(unless they want to use their cap space for a premium FA and renounce his rights, which is unlikely considering they have only 5 players under contract)
doubt the clippers going spend 4m on him again, they need all the money to sign a max FA....
just checked. Clippers can't sign a max FA. they will be 19-20 M under the cap, but have only 5 players under contract. cap holds for 8 players and the 1st round pick (#8, if they don't win the lottery again) will reduce the cap space to less than 12M.
aside the fact that the real good FAs won't line up to play for the Clippers, they are definitely not in the position to make a big play in this years FA. they will rather try to build some roster depth by re signing Butler, Outlaw and Blake and then they hope for Griffin, a further development of Gordon and a hit in the draft.
I would only want this guy if RJ stays and Butler can be the back-up small forward.
I would definitely be ok with the Spurs signing him, he is a good 3 point shooter, wouldn't have to play as many minutes as he did with the Clippers.
6'7 so again he is in that height range the Spurs should be looking for, he is a good defender.
Probably can be have for cheap
i always liked butler he could be a good guy for the LLE
he isn't a bad option. would rather roll with bell and butler than mason and bogans.
I'm still a big fan of Rasual Butler. I'd be fine taking him in.
Would be the perfect replacement for roger mason. Good defender and good shooter. At times when going a game changing shooter. Fearless. Poor mans Stephen Jackson would be slightly exagerating but similar.
Shot selection is poor at times. Do you guys think this is a correctable problem at this point in his career?
I definitely take him. As a reserve shooter off the bench he could be awesome. Plus, he knows how to play D.
Seems pretty likely someone will offer him at least 3 mil a year, which would put him out of reach unless Splitter decides to stay in Europe... in which case, I'd rather see the Spurs spend the MLE on a PF or C. I can see Dominic McQuire signing with the Spurs for the LLE, but not Butler.
agree that his market value likely is significantly above the LLE (I would guess he seeks at least 3 years and 10 million). but Spurs could at least try and offer it. remaining question: is he better than James Jones? Jones would sign for the LLE I assume (after being waived by the Heat), if not for the veteran minimum.
They're comparable, only, like you said, Jones will likely be significantly cheaper, so I see him as the better fit. He's a better three-point shooter and a more noted defender, plus he has more defensive versatility. He can guard big three's, some two's and he's big enough to potentially guard some smaller, face up four's.
I actually think he's probably the best, realistic option available to fill this role for the Spurs. I was touting Bell for a long time and I wouldn't mind if the Spurs signed him but he's significantly smaller, will be more expensive and will likely expect at least a relatively significant/consistent role regardless of performance.
The thing I really like about Jones is the length. If the Spurs sign Splitter, draft a long three and sign Jones, they'd become a significantly longer team, which is something they've needed to do for a while.
The Knicks have had internal discussions about shooting guard Rasual Butler, but they didn't have enough room
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Spurs should try to get this guy.
No. But beggars can't be choosers. If he'll take LLE the Spurs have to put him near the top of their list.
Wouldn't be surprised to see someone else use part of their MLE on him though.
Out of the somewhat realistic possibilities, Butler has been my favorite for a little while now. However, there are still two major problems:
1. I know market money is starting to dry up a little bit, but based on what others have gotten, I still suspect Butler will get an offer in the $2-3 million range, putting him out of reach for the Spurs.
2. Depending on how the salaries of Splitter/Bonner/Jefferson shake out, the Spurs might not be able to spend the LLE without going over the luxury tax, which I imagine is a fairly big deal for them at this point. If this is indeed the case, I expect them to try to survive with a 2/3 rotation consisting of some combination of Manu/Hill/Jefferson/Anderson/Hairston/Gee, unless the latter 3 are really underwhelming in some way over the offseason.
Would he take the rest of the MLE?
I think butler should be the spurs no.1 option to sign at the 3
I think Butler is the most likely player to sign with Spurs:
- Josh Howard is a complicate case with his at ude and his injury.
- Raja Bell should go to a contender.
- Ronnie Brewer could be too expensive and really lack of a jump shot.
- Matt Barnes is crazy.
- James Jones should stay in Miami.
Butler woudl be a solid addition. Spurs can offer him a $7.8M/3 years contract which could be enough to get him.
Good points. Granted, we're hearing rumored interest from the Spurs in Bell which makes it seem like he's their primary target now, but that's only because he's more well known than Butler. Butler would be a nice fit as a backup 3. I'd like Bell + Butler, but that would be hard to pull off.
How much do you think a Tony Allen would cost?
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