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    For what it's worth, there are two players that have done an excellent job defending Dirk Nowitzki in the playoffs over the past few seasons. Matt Barnes and Udonis Haslem.

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    isn't raja bell from the same place as TD?

    Maybe Timmy can close the deal...
    They are both from the Virgin islands.

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    I'd love Bell in a spurs uniform. A no-nonsense defender and also a shooter who can provide space for TD and Blair to operate inside. The addition of three point shooters in our team would give our low post players more room to operate.

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    wtf? Bell is a guard, no? 6'5''? 33 years old?

    Can we get a SF, please, or is RJ going to regain his lateral speed and defensive IQ now that "Pop has been working him out"?

    Barnes is 6'6'' or 6'7'', quick, fast, and tough, with crazy long arms and can hound much taller and shorter players. Is younger than Bell and less injured.

    And, for all I care, can STFU on the Spurs and not be a bad citizen.
    Bell's been injured one time: last year. Barnes D is over rated. He can be overpowered by the same types that take our guards into the paint and punish them, and his 3 point shooting is WORSE than Jefferson's. He's also a ing headcase who barks at his coaches for taking him out of the game, and his playoff performance was reminiscent of Matt Bonner, a total disappearing act. Stop imagining him to be what he isn't.

    Stop obsessing about size. Bell is the best wing available on the market for fractional MLE from a shooting and defense standpoint.

    edit: Oh, Jesus yeah, Let's bring in the 33% career 3G% Barnes and kick the 41% career 3G% Bell to the curb. That would make a lot of sense.

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    The Spurs need a SF - not a SG.

    Bell STILL is a very good player, but not the defensive demon he once was. Plus, he's older and has been injured throughout most of last year. I'd be ok with the Bell signing, but I'd rather the Spurs go after a longer player like Barnes or Chandler.

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    It could really go either way..I don't think the Spurs would go after a guy like him though..
    I think people are overlooking how much of a thug Barnes is.

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    I'd take Matt Barnes in a heartbeat. Plug him in as the starting 3 he'd be perfect.

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    I think people are overlooking how much of a thug Barnes is.
    Yep, not like they never had a guy like Stephen Jackson before...

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    I'd take Matt Barnes in a heartbeat. Plug him in as the starting 3 he'd be perfect.
    Yeah, like he was for Orlando last year. They were so happy with his Bonner-esque playoff disappearing act they went and signed QRich.

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    I think people are overlooking how much of a thug Barnes is.
    Ron Artest is crazy as a mofo and he just won a le.

    bruce bowen was pretty thuggish on the court.

    its exactly what this team has been missing since bruce left.

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    ron artest is crazy as a mofo and he just won a le.

    Bruce bowen was pretty thuggish on the court.

    Its exactly what this team has been missing since bruce left.
    ex- ing-actly

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    I don't get the Butler obsession on this board. He's not nearly as good a three point shooter as he's made out to be (career 36.3% shooter) and he's never been a noted defender. Sure, he's long, but he's not all that athletic. I'd say there's a good chance that Anderson is at least comparable to, if not better than Butler immediately.

    Butler has become overrated in the past two seasons because he played for teams with awful wings, so that meant he primarily started and played more minutes than a player of his caliber ideally should, therefore leading to his numbers being inflated.

    I get the argument for Bell, Jones and to an extent even Barnes, but not Butler. Nothing against him, he just makes no sense for this team with Anderson in the fold.

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    Yep, not like they never had a guy like Stephen Jackson before...
    Steven Jackson could shoot in the clutch. All Barnes can do is Houdini his way out of the playoffs.

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    I think people are overlooking how much of a thug Barnes is.

    I don't think he is a thug, but he is definitely a headcase. For the money that the Spurs have left he is the Spurs best option at SF.

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    Yeah, like he was for Orlando last year. They were so happy with his Bonner-esque playoff disappearing act they went and signed QRich.
    Hmm.. Barnes' playoff averages exceeded his regular season's from a quick glance at the numbers. Anyway, QRich isn't replacing Barnes, he's taking JJ Re 's spot (who's heading to CHI)

    Magic will get to resigning Barnes soon, which is why I think the spurs should jump at the chance now.

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    Steven Jackson could shoot in the clutch. All Barnes can do is Houdini his way out of the playoffs.
    Did Barnes rape your sister or something?

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    The Spurs need a SF - not a SG.

    Bell STILL is a very good player, but not the defensive demon he once was. Plus, he's older and has been injured throughout most of last year. I'd be ok with the Bell signing, but I'd rather the Spurs go after a longer player like Barnes or Chandler.
    Exactly.

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    Yep the spurs need someone at least 6'7" with good size. Raja Bell is a Bogans' size or smaller.

    Josh Howard, Wilson Chandler, Matt Barnes, McGrady (risky, but if can't find anything else..)

    All would fit the bill of being 6'7" or bigger (Barnes is 6'9" and would be the best choice IMO.)

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    Barnes is inconsistent in shooting the 3, he shouldn't be the spurs FO's first option

    as for bell,noo, we need a SF

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    I've been saying the Spurs need more size long before it was popular opinion and they're still not overly big, but with Splitter signed and once Jefferson is officially signed, they'll be big enough. They still don't have a 3/4 tweener, but this notion that they need a 6-7 SF to compete for a championship is a myth.

    The Celtics played 6-4 T. Allen as their backup SF (and SG), the Lakers frequently played 6-6 Bryant as their backup SF, the Magic played 6-6 Pietrus as their backup SF, the Nuggets primarily played 6-5 Afflalo or 6-6 Smith as their backup SF, etc. All of these players are natural SG's. Not one is the size of a true SF, yet they were all successful teams to varying degrees and the size or lack thereof of their backup SF was not an impediment.

    Basically, you need one legit sized SF (Jefferson fits the bill), but you can get away with Bell or even Hairston (size-wise) playing backup SF. The big thing is, can whoever it is filling this role play above average individual defense and shoot the three at a high percentage, not whether the guy is 6-7 225 or 6-5 220.

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    The Spurs need a SF - not a SG.

    Bell STILL is a very good player, but not the defensive demon he once was. Plus, he's older and has been injured throughout most of last year. I'd be ok with the Bell signing, but I'd rather the Spurs go after a longer player like Barnes or Chandler.
    yeah, it's def. not an easy choice. but i like Bell.

    Bell +
    -good perimiter defender.
    -can hit the three consistently.
    -leadership. i remember him being, along with Nash, a vocal leader in the huddles. i thought this was missing last year with Bowen not on the floor.

    the three ball is really important. so is perimiter defense but i'm not sure the seperation b/w Barnes and Bell in that respect is big enough to pass over Bell and the other things he brings.

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    I've been saying the Spurs need more size long before it was popular opinion and they're still not overly big, but with Splitter signed and once Jefferson is officially signed, they'll be big enough. They still don't have a 3/4 tweener, but this notion that they need a 6-7 SF to compete for a championship is a myth.

    The Celtics just played 6-4 T. Allen as their backup SF (and SG), the Lakers frequently played 6-6 Bryant as their backup SF, the Magic played 6-6 Pietrus as their backup SF, the Nuggets primarily played 6-5 Afflalo or 6-6 Smith as their backup SF, etc. All of these players are natural SG's. Not one is the size of a true SF, yet they were all successful team to varying degrees.

    Basically, you need one legit sized SF (Jefferson fits the bill), but you can get away with Bell or even Hairston (size-wise) playing backup SF. The big thing is, can whoever it is filling this role play above average individual defense and shoot the three at a high percentage, not whether the guy is 6-7 225 or 6-5 220.
    Agreed. I think shooting should be the main priority for the next signing. a 6'7 or 6'8 wing player who shoots 25% from 3 pt land is going to be no help here. We have to find guys who can shoot the 3 ball. It killed us this year and it will next year unless we can find some guys who can shoot the ball. If Raja can provide that, than I am all for bringing him in.

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    Butler and Barnes both shoot around 32% from 3 point land. That is a big problem for us. James Jones could easily be the best fit IMO, but his defense lacks compared to both bell and barnes.

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    If I had it my way it would go like this:

    1. Bell/Barnes (hard to pick between the two, especially since we dont know exactly what Raja could bring to the table now..)

    2. Rasual Butler

    3. James Jones

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    Does anyone think that Bell might not want to come to the Spurs given their history with the Suns? It must be hard to go play with players who were once your mortal enemies.

    I agree that he'd be the best option because of his 3pt%.

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