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    Happy with either Jones or Bell. Both would be solid mature players to fill some minutes and complement some of the younger brigade.

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    "Hard look" = Pop sitting in the stands squinting. If he can convince himself that it's Bruce Bowen, they'll sign him.
    Ah, the Keith Bogans method.

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    Would prefer Bell and Butler over Jones.

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    Hopefully, not Austin

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    no thanks on James Jones, he's fallen off a cliff since the days he was a hot prospect with the Pacers and then the Suns.

    Butler before Jones please.

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    james jones the same guy we targeted back then untill he bolted to the suns

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    The thing that scares me about all these guys is that they're going to be guaranteed minutes to sign here..I don't mind signing anybody if it's guaranteed that they will be behind in the depth chart if they get outplayed by Hairston/Anderson/Temple in preseason..

    As we saw with Bogans last October, this is very possible..I want to see a fair allocation of minutes, but this is never a guarantee when it comes to the Spurs..veterans are ALWAYS given the benefit of the doubt first here..

    Even with Splitter on board, the Spurs frontcourt will still be slow defensively..Duncan can't get to the spots as fast as he could before..the perimeter D needs to be quick and athletic..

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    Imagine if he could keep that average up for a whole game.

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    The thing that scares me about all these guys is that they're going to be guaranteed minutes to sign here..I don't mind signing anybody if it's guaranteed that they will be behind in the depth chart if they get outplayed by Hairston/Anderson/Temple in preseason..

    As we saw with Bogans last October, this is very possible..I want to see a fair allocation of minutes, but this is never a guarantee when it comes to the Spurs..veterans are ALWAYS given the benefit of the doubt first here..

    Even with Splitter on board, the Spurs frontcourt will still be slow defensively..Duncan can't get to the spots as fast as he could before..the perimeter D needs to be quick and athletic..
    Very true. The defense has gotten progressively worse each year, as has been accelerated with both the retirement of Bowen and the gradual decline of Duncan. We saw, firsthand in the playoffs, the negative impact of poor perimeter defense combined with the slippage of interior defense.

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    Imagine if he could keep that average up for a whole game.
    YES!

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    The thing that scares me about all these guys is that they're going to be guaranteed minutes to sign here..I don't mind signing anybody if it's guaranteed that they will be behind in the depth chart if they get outplayed by Hairston/Anderson/Temple in preseason..

    As we saw with Bogans last October, this is very possible..I want to see a fair allocation of minutes, but this is never a guarantee when it comes to the Spurs..veterans are ALWAYS given the benefit of the doubt first here..

    Even with Splitter on board, the Spurs frontcourt will still be slow defensively..Duncan can't get to the spots as fast as he could before..the perimeter D needs to be quick and athletic..
    I'm fairly certain Pop never has - and never will - promise anyone minutes.

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    Then how did certain players, who did not play as well as others earn minutes other wise?

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    The thing that scares me about all these guys is that they're going to be guaranteed minutes to sign here..I don't mind signing anybody if it's guaranteed that they will be behind in the depth chart if they get outplayed by Hairston/Anderson/Temple in preseason..

    As we saw with Bogans last October, this is very possible..I want to see a fair allocation of minutes, but this is never a guarantee when it comes to the Spurs..veterans are ALWAYS given the benefit of the doubt first here..

    Even with Splitter on board, the Spurs frontcourt will still be slow defensively..Duncan can't get to the spots as fast as he could before..the perimeter D needs to be quick and athletic..
    dude pop does not guarantee minutes

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    I'd prefer Butler, but Jones is okay I guess. A long-shot to really contribute though. Maybe we get lucky and he stays injury free and is the shooter/defender we need... but I'd say Butler is a 50% chance to be that where Jones is a 10% chance.
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    I'm fairly certain Pop never has - and never will - promise anyone minutes.
    Yeah, once upon a time Shandon Anderson wanted guaranteed minutes to sign with the Spurs and Pop said that not even Tim Duncan gets guaranteed minutes.

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    I didn't mean it like that..

    If they're going to pay a guy the LLE or the rest of the MLE, and he's an experienced vet, he won't have to earn his spot in preseason, he's pretty much guaranteed to have it, even if he gets outplayed by the young guys like Bogans did last year..the old vet will always have to lose his spot here, not earn it, at least IMO..

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    OMG no! He sucks. He shot 41% from 3 last year but that was just one year.

    He's old. He sucks. And oh yeah, he's old.

    He is definitely long, but is he a great defender of 3pt shooter? Not really. Just average.

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    1) Rasual Butler
    2) Raja Bell
    3) Someone from Austin....

    James Jones is A Defensive Liabilty, and All He can Do is shoot.... Otherwise his game is Awful... He has No Athletism, and Is Beyond slow.... Im Sure with the Knee problems he has had recently he is even slower

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    Imagine if he could keep that average up for a whole game.
    me-e-e-e-e-e-e-h
    nowhere close to McGrady's 2004 antics on us

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    me-e-e-e-e-e-e-h
    nowhere close to McGrady's 2004 antics on us
    If we had both, and they both did that.
    We'd be twice the 2005 Phoenix Suns.

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    me-e-e-e-e-e-e-h
    nowhere close to McGrady's 2004 antics on us
    McGrady's display (to the dismay of the Spurs and their fans) was AMAZING - but I disagree that it was more impressive. Four point plays are extremely rare and this guy not only had two of them in one game - he had two of them in the matter of 11 seconds! Admittedly, McGrady's took more skill and meant more to his team - but the rarity of James' antics make it more impressive IMHO.

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    Hmm...if the Spurs can offer Bell more money, than we might have a shot at landing him over LA. While he would be closer to a le, most likely, with the Lakers, his shot here ain't too bad. If Jones wants a little more than the minimum than the Spurs could theoretically sign him with the LLE and use the rest of the MLE on Bell.

    yes. They aren't huge players, but they are definitely solid role players to fill out the roster. A long 3 who can D up and hit threes and a solid defensive SG who can hit the three. Just what we've been missing (along with Splitter).

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    Hope they get him. I'd like to see Bell, Howard, or Rasual given a chance in addition over RJ though

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    Are all of the people who want Butler aware that he's a 36.3% career three point shooter, with 1 season over 40% (Bell is 41.1%, with 7 seasons over 40%; Jones is 39.5%, with 2 seasons over 40%) and at best an average defender?

    I know he's 6-7, which is all the rage around here, but isn't the goal to, if not secure good three point shooting and good defense in one player, then to at least secure one or the other? Butler isn't good enough at either.

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    Yeah, once upon a time Shandon Anderson wanted guaranteed minutes to sign with the Spurs and Pop said that not even Tim Duncan gets guaranteed minutes.
    That's bull out of Pop's mouth. Duncan has always had guaranteed PT. No way he would have ever been benched, there was never a reason to do so.

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