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  1. #51
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    Racist, ignorant -nozzles. Pretentious ass-hattery. And wanna-be major metropoliton city. It's a glorified cow town and is pretty monochromatic. Doesn't hold a candle to NY/NJ, LA, MIA, San Fran/Oakland, Portland, Denver, or Chicago. What difference is there between DFW, PHX, or ATL?
    Amount of mayates differs in all 3..

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    I hear you can get a nice tug job from the meth head hookers at the greyhound station, but other than that, mother ing co-signed son.

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    The ironic thing is that downtown Dallas has NO entertainment district, no reason to be there after 6 pm. West End is a hole tourist trap.
    cant agree more. downtown has nothing. all the entertainment and clubs string off 75, 635, and 35. like 10 minutes outside downtown. you do have fairpark and the AAC down there. West End and Uptown has nice places to eat though. And the Arts District if your gay..

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    You ers hatin on Dallas are way out of place and don't know . Dallas and fort worth have some great nightlife and fine women especially Hispanics. 4th of July
    weekend over in fort worth them damn mexicans were partying it up on every street corner and front yard. It's not Miami but it ain't a bad place to live and it's very diverse.

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    One of their problems is desparation. That type of desparation causes a team and an owner to overspend, overreact, forfeit assets (surrendering future 1st round picks in ill-advised trades - 2 to the Warriors in the Dampier trade and 2 more to the Nets in the Kidd trade).
    One heartening thing is that Cuban seems to FINALLY be learning from his mistakes. The holdup in the Al Jefferson deal was Dallas' reluctance to part with two firsts (I know we perpetually draft in the twenties but we acquired Josh Howard and Roddy B that way), along with Minnesota refusing to take back a bad contract. The cap and luxury tax hit for acquiring Big Al was more than Cuban was willing to stomach. He didn't want to pay dollar for dollar lux tax for a guy who would only be playing 28 minutes a game.

    We haven't added talent this summer, but we have added some length to the roster and acquired some financial flexibility. The Tyson Chandler trade isn't a home run, but probably a solid single. Got rid of two bad contracts and acquired defensive length in the frontline with a guy playing for his next contract.

  6. #56
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    Washington DC is more desirable than Dallas to some as well.
    Obama lives there..

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    Lol diverse.

    I tried, but I can't see the appeal of Dallas at all. It's like a wanna be LA for re s, I don't get it.

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    Racist, ignorant -nozzles. Pretentious ass-hattery. And wanna-be major metropoliton city. It's a glorified cow town and is pretty monochromatic. Doesn't hold a candle to NY/NJ, LA, MIA, San Fran/Oakland, Portland, Denver, or Chicago. What difference is there between DFW, PHX, or ATL?
    lol at goty-ass lawyer speaking for black people on what cities they like
    lol listing Portland
    Portland is whiter than Sweden

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    Portland is whiter than Sweden
    And it rains all the time. Two big strikes against it if you're a black NBA player. But some former Trailblazers have appreciated what Portland has to offer and stick around after retirement - see David Halberstam's "Breaks of the Game."

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    Portland is whiter than Sweden

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    lol at goty-ass lawyer speaking for black people on what cities they like
    lol listing Portland
    Portland is whiter than Sweden
    I have my first cyber stalker. I'm so happy, if only ma and pa were around to see this ...

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    in a nuts

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    Seems pretty simple. Before Mark Cuban, no one would have wanted to do anything with that franchise. Since Mark Cuban bought the team they've had no cap room and have never been contenders in free agency. As far as Al Harrington goes, it's anyone's guess. I think he knew that Rick Carlisle wouldn't let him chuck a bunch of dumb shots and chose to go to a team where he knew he would have the green light to do whatever he wants a la JR Smith.

    I know others might disagree, but for what Mark Cuban gives in financial commitment he lacks in NBA savvy, the guy is completely clueless as to how the NBA works. He and Sarver are alike in the sense they both have the local media wrapped around their finger writing article after article defending the stupid decisions they make. They both are content doing things their way, having the local media defend it, tucking the fact they are absolutely clueless under the rug, and only surrounding them with people who are gonna tell them the way they operate is right. It's even worse with Sarver because of all the quality front office personnel he's let go of because they didn't want to operate the way he does, but Cuban is flawed in the same way. He won't get rid of a GM who is obviously incompetent because that GM will go along with his way of thinking, and he has a coach who is allowed to a bunch of stuff up as long as he doesn't take an opposing stance to Cuban.

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    What a mesmerizing skyline. Manhattanization of TX tbh
    It's nice.


    This is what it's competing with, though:







    This isn't to suggest that Dallas is a poor place to live. I've been there. It's a cool city. But NBA players like hype, they like the feel of a city that seems linked to Hollywood, or at least the glitz and glamor. This typically involves a city situated next to a large body of water. Miami, Chicago, LA, NYC are all major cities with a staggering skyline that is situated nearby to a large beach. Yes, there are a lot of lakes in the Dallas metro area, but nothing comparable to Lake Michigan or one of the oceans.

    Dallas just isn't marketed as that kind of a city, for better or worse.
    Last edited by Cry Havoc; 07-14-2010 at 01:15 PM.

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    I know others might disagree, but for what Mark Cuban gives in financial commitment he lacks in NBA savvy, the guy is completely clueless as to how the NBA works. .
    I think Cuban has gotten better when it comes to savvy. He got a better player than Damp and dumped two bad contracts on the Bobcats yesterday. Dallas now has $29 million in expirings if another elite player comes available. But his loyalty to Donnie is mystifying.

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    It IS Dallas, baby! Hey Al Harrington, I hope you like skiing and getting shot at by the guy who killed Darrent Williams. This is what you're missing, Oak Cliff style:


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    I think Cuban has gotten better when it comes to savvy. He got a better player than Damp and dumped two bad contracts on the Bobcats yesterday. Dallas now has $29 million in expirings if another elite player comes available. But his loyalty to Donnie is mystifying.

    If he were taking a long term approach then I'd agree there, or even if they were taking the "Stay compe ive while rebuilding" approach Steve Kerr did a great job with till Sarver ed it up. The problem is Cuban passes Dallas off like they're a team in win now mode where everything less than a championship is a failure, but all they do every off season is make a few half assed moves that add a few good role players but don't give them the 1-2 studs next to Dirk they need to contend.

    That was a good trade for the reasons you mentioned, but having Chandler makes it so Haywood won't be worth his contract. If they made that trade, didn't resign Haywood, and split the MLE between two cheap short term deals for an athletic SG who defends well and never settles for jumpers (Ronnie Brewer, Rodney Carney, etc.) and a veteran big then it would make a whole lot more sense to me. It would set them up for a lot of cap room in two years, and they'd still be a compe ive team that could get to the conference finals.

    With a new CBA in a year that might reconstruct things completely, I just don't think very many competent GMs or owners should be s ing out long term money to role players unless they are that close to a championship.

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    If he were taking a long term approach then I'd agree there, or even if they were taking the "Stay compe ive while rebuilding" approach Steve Kerr did a great job with till Sarver ed it up. The problem is Cuban passes Dallas off like they're a team in win now mode where everything less than a championship is a failure, but all they do every off season is make a few half assed moves that add a few good role players but don't give them the 1-2 studs next to Dirk they need to contend.

    That was a good trade for the reasons you mentioned, but having Chandler makes it so Haywood won't be worth his contract. If they made that trade, didn't resign Haywood, and split the MLE between two cheap short term deals for an athletic SG who defends well and never settles for jumpers (Ronnie Brewer, Rodney Carney, etc.) and a veteran big then it would make a whole lot more sense to me. It would set them up for a lot of cap room in two years, and they'd still be a compe ive team that could get to the conference finals.

    With a new CBA in a year that might reconstruct things completely, I just don't think very many competent GMs or owners should be s ing out long term money to role players unless they are that close to a championship.
    I agree. And i'd rub one out if we could get Ronnie Brewer.

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    LOL Dallas

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    When you're rich as , I don't think you care about a couple hundred thousand in taxes. I wonder what the endorsement opportunities are for a place like LA vs dallas

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    I agree. And i'd rub one out if we could get Ronnie Brewer.

    he'd be the perfect fit on Dallas.

    I don't understand why so many owners and GMs repeat the mistake of giving role players 4-5 year, lucrative contracts when they're team isn't a contender either way, yet so many fans who have no experience GMing a team just know by following the NBA that those contracts always become a pain in the ass. Even someone like Raja Bell who got a 5 year deal that looked like a steal at first was playing well below contract value by his 4th year.

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    Just for perspective's sake, here are some reasons why Dallas sucks:

    1. It is totally devoid of culture & substance
    2. full of pretentious, plastic people
    3. Jerry Jones
    4. corrupt local government
    5. ty public school system
    6. Mark Cuban
    7. Hwy system = deathtrap
    8. the rest of the Metroplex is populated by culturally re ed redneck NASCAR fans
    9. apathetic, bandwagon sports fans (present company excluded, of course)
    10. Dallas' greatest contribution to society? Cheerleader uniforms.

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    One heartening thing is that Cuban seems to FINALLY be learning from his mistakes. The holdup in the Al Jefferson deal was Dallas' reluctance to part with two firsts (I know we perpetually draft in the twenties but we acquired Josh Howard and Roddy B that way), along with Minnesota refusing to take back a bad contract. The cap and luxury tax hit for acquiring Big Al was more than Cuban was willing to stomach. He didn't want to pay dollar for dollar lux tax for a guy who would only be playing 28 minutes a game.

    We haven't added talent this summer, but we have added some length to the roster and acquired some financial flexibility. The Tyson Chandler trade isn't a home run, but probably a solid single. Got rid of two bad contracts and acquired defensive length in the frontline with a guy playing for his next contract.
    Very prudent on the part of Cuban to avoid those same mistakes. Maybe he is learning?

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    As a person who has never set foot in Texas (I became a Spur fan as a kid from those Gay Mr. Robinson's neighborhood commercials), I can only guess that black people assume its full of white country people and blacks don't like associating with cowboy types or southerners a lot. That's my guess. Although you would think word of mouth from the players that did actually play there would spread aound.

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    I think Cuban has gotten better when it comes to savvy. He got a better player than Damp and dumped two bad contracts on the Bobcats yesterday. Dallas now has $29 million in expirings if another elite player comes available. But his loyalty to Donnie is mystifying.
    I know that Chandler is one of those expiring contracts the Mavs have. Who is the other? I'm too lazy to look it up myself.

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