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Griffin will probably start for the clippers, Splitter will be lucky to get minutes behind Bonner. And i'm being serious.
Some people do not pay attention to the actual bust rate of NFL draftees. About half of the prospects ever drafted even in the lottery do not amount to .
Splitter has more experience and he played against much tougher compe ion and aquitted himself pretty damn well. Tau Ceramica would beat the out of any NCAA team.
Yeah all those other euro MVP's have done so well in the NBA too.
Let's not pretend like every euro star that comes over to the NBA ends up being a success.
My point is that it works both ways. Griffin is not in the caliber of a Shaquille O'Neal or a Tim Duncan entering the draft. hes not even a Yao Ming.
Then you factor in that he is a big man with a bad knee that did not heal properly and this notion that hes a lock to do anything at all is laughable. Big men with knee problems from the start should send up a huge red flag.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...ffinneeettinge
He first injured the knee about a year ago and hejust now get healthy. So I would take a healthy player over a guy thats been hurt for his entire NBA career. I have not seen enough of Splitter to say either way but Griffin is a walking MASH unit.
Again Griffin is a big man with knee problems. His knee took forever to heal. Guys like Greg Oden and Andrew Bynum have chronic knee problems of the same mold. You just cannot ignore that.
Tiago has my "unbiased" support but there's no way I can say with a straight face that he will play at higher level than Griffin. I hope Griffin proves me wrong.
For either Favors or Cousins.
Agree with you. Look at what happened to Odens, Olowakandis,and Kwames of the world
Well,I saw them a lot in the spanish league and I can say Splitter is at least as good as Marc Gasol.Easily He could average 14-10 55% FG if he plays 32-34 min.
But San Antonio have too many weapons so Splitter isn't going to score more than 7-8 ppg
Of course Griffin must be better but Splitter could be the best big man who plays with TD since D-Rob.
Oden isn't completely written off yet. He just might put it together, at least for a couple of years. He has shown flashes of Shaq-like utter domination, but it all comes down to staying healthy for any period of time.
Where the did this notion that Tiago Splitter is some defensive hustle role player come from? Because RC compared him to Anderson Varejao in an attempt to temper expectations .. And then a couple of reporters ran with it without watching him play. There are
ore differences to their games then there are similarities.
Sure Tiago can take a damn good charge and flop with the best of them... But apart from that they are different players. While Splitter is taller and longer and can probably offer more in terms of rim protection and shot blocking (despite his low BPG) .. Varejao is te tougher more physical and better man-to-man defender.
Offensively .. there isn't much of a comparison. Splitter is by far the more polished offensive player.. better post game.. better footwork.. better hands and ability to catch passes. He mightnot get the ability to show his skills on a consistant basis early on .. But they will e noticable.
Varejao really isn't the best comparison.
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I wouldn't trade Griffin for three Tiago Splitters. Let's be real.
I wouldn't either, but the contrary isn't THAT outlandish.
What did Griffin do in the Big 12 that Beasley didn't? And most teams weren't willing to trade an empty roster spot for Beasley at this juncture.
This seems like a thread that should be made and answered after twenty games into the season.
Didn't everyone think that Oden is gonna be the next D-Rob
Actually, this seems like a thread that needs to go at least to the end of Reg Season. I'm surprised at the variances in responses.
In a world of instant gratification and Slam Online, it would appear that a great many of posters here are easily swayed by the media outlets who inundate your mind with what they perceive you should think and do. DON'T BE A ROBOT!
Do your own research and format your own opinion.
I get that Griffin was the #1 pick overall. But really, what did he accomplish? National Player Of The Year? Big Deal, so did Sean Elliott as a Wooden Player of the year, and Danny Ferry, so did David Robinson and Tim Duncan, so does that mean that that instantly translates into greatness?
The 4-letter might want you to believe that, in fact...it used to be a decent rule, however...times change. Observe:
1983 Ralph Sampson Virginia Played with Houston but leg issues were too much.
1984 Michael Jordan North Carolina GOAT Nuff said.
1985 Patrick Ewing Georgetown A HOF Center for sure
1986 Johnny Dawkins Duke So what did he do in the NBA exactly? NOT MUCH.
1987 David Robinson Navy Best player to ever retire for the Spurs
1988 Danny Manning Kansas Did his best work as a Clipper until the curse got him.
1989 Danny Ferry Duke So, what did he do in the NBA other than become a role player?
1990 Lionel Simmons La Salle His best years were in Sacto but no All-Star or ALL-NBA Injuries did him in too.
1991 Larry Johnson UNLV There was a time when Grandmama was a force. But back issues did him in. He was fairly solid but again, not what one would build a team around.
1992 Christian Laettner Duke What did he accomplish again?
1993 Calbert Cheaney Indiana Same question
1994 Glenn Robinson Purdue Scorer who couldn't play a lick of D. Won a ring as a Spur in a low bench role.
1995 Joe Smith Maryland Greatest Claim To Fame? Responsible for Minnesota losing 3 straight #1 draft picks for collusion and tampering of Salary Cap
1996 Marcus Camby Massachusetts Good Post Player, All-NBA D Team, Solid Defensively, limited offensively.
1997 Tim Duncan Wake Forest Greatest PF To ever play the game
1998 Antawn Jamison North Carolina A scoring big too small play big 4's, too slow to cover fast 4's Has good range out to 3 but nothing more than a 3rd Team Star
1999 Elton Brand Duke Has had some shining moments in the NBA, probably best Duke player ever but is currently fighting to get back to All-Star level due to injury
2000 Kenyon Martin Cincinnati Good Defender, Okay range...Bad At ude
2001 Shane Battier Duke Good Defender, okay 3 point shooter but nothing more than that
2002 Jason Williams Duke Blame The Motorcycle
2003 T. J. Ford Texas Blame the small frame and reckless style for Neck Issues
2004 Jameer Nelson Saint Joseph's Good shooter, strong defender for his size. SOLID.
2005 Andrew Bogut Utah Finally showing potential. Will Challenge for ball on both sides. Turning into a solid Center.
2006 J. J. Re Duke Nothing more than a bonafide stretch shooter. Hasn't shown much else.
2007 Kevin Durant Texas Currently, he's the Thunder in Oklahoma City. George Gervin re-booted in a 6'10" frame.
2008 Tyler Hansbrough North Carolina Meet Eric Montross....yet again. No, Tyler's better, I think.
2009 Blake Griffin Oklahoma REMAINS TO BE SEEN
2010 Evan Turner Ohio State Same thing
So out of 27 Players of the Year, only 4 are truly HOF level players. Add 3 to 5 more players who are at least critical to their team's success and then the rest? Great College players no doubt, but have been treated like flotsam and jetsam in the NBA. Many of these college greats have bounced like NBA Journeymen. So again....study the tapes, look at the stats, don't just go by what 4-letter says or by what the Big 12 Media book tells you. I once talked to Bill Self here in LA, He was out to watch one of his guys, and he told me, this guy is going to be a very solid NBA player. He said,"When you have enough skill to be called the Big 10 player of the year, you can make waves in the NBA."
The player he came to watch? He played for the Lakers his rookie year...I give you, BRIAN COOK. Yeah, that Brian Cook. Or as I like to remember. 1 of 3 guys that Manu dunked on during a National TNT game. Yeah, I was there live. That was a fun win.
potential busts?
Good . But I also want to mention something. Just scanning through the list, I see that more than half are all-stars. So the percentage of all-stars is quite high. And since this thread is about Splitter against Griffin, which is stupid since none of these people have stepped onto the NBA court for a regular season game, just looking at these players, I am thinking Blake Griffin can be someone special, someone who can leave an impact on the league somewhat. I am not thinking top 5 NBA player in his prime but he is going to be in the discussion for top 15 in the league in my opinion. And I voted for Griffin, because he has more potential and has the ability to prove himself as a Clipper. Looking forward to him trying to turn that cursed franchise into something. One last thing, looking at all of these players, with an exception of a few, it seems that these players find a way to stay in the league for a long time, so they are not bad by any means.
I honestly can't believe that there's 40%+ votes for Splitter.
I'm hoping that all of those votes are from people who havn't seen blake and/or splitter play and are going off solely on they read or homerism...
Or else I've lost complete faith on this board, jesus
The fact that he's injured doesn't mean he doesn't have talent, so what's your point?Didn't everyone think that Oden is gonna be the next D-Rob
Point is, talent is useless if that player can't stay healthy. Do you really think that Oden's knee problems will suddenly go away? The dude has a pair of glass knees that he has to rely on to earn a living. IMHO, that's not very good.
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