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    Last year is partially guaranteed. Meaning it's more than likely going to be only a 3 year deal (Spurs choice).
    Uh? It's a player option, meaning he can opt out and walk away from whatever is guaranteed of his last season. If he opts in, then the Spurs have the choice of buying him out by paying only the guaranteed amount instead of all the $11m...

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    Really bad contract considering he had no market at all !!

    Really disappointing offseason !! The only good thing was Splitter.

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    If you believe Spurs resigned R.J knowing they couldn't have the option to resign Parker, you have to be smoking something.
    I didn't say that they re-signed RJ knowing anything...I'm looking at the numbers, seeing now 3 guys being paid big money already, seeing an up-and-coming guard in Hill and seeing likely big demands from the star guard. All that will factor into the decision to extend Parker...you'd have to be smoking something not to acknowledge it.

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    Any idea on how much of the last year is guaranteed?

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    It could be worse. We could have Finley back instead.

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    4 years/38.8 million. Holy crap. He and Bonner and be the core of the team in 2013-2014.

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    I didn't say that they re-signed RJ knowing anything...I'm looking at the numbers, seeing now 3 guys being paid big money already, seeing an up-and-coming guard in Hill and seeing likely big demands from the star guard. All that will factor into the decision to extend Parker...you'd have to be smoking something not to acknowledge it.
    I'm sure R.C is fully aware of those numbers as well. I don't think he would resign R.J to this deal without having the flexibility to resign Parker.

    Parker, Duncan, Manu and R.J under contract this season will be slighlty below the luxury tax. If Parker is giving an extension that is back-loaded, Spurs can certainly stay slightly under the tax again for the 2011-2012 (If he is resigned).

    After the 2011-2012 season Duncan's 21 million comes off the books and gives the Spurs some breathing room (even though I can see Duncan resigning for one more year at half the price to give it one more run).

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    Uh? It's a player option, meaning he can opt out and walk away from whatever is guaranteed of his last season. If he opts in, then the Spurs have the choice of buying him out by paying only the guaranteed amount instead of all the $11m...
    Partially guaranteed means Spurs have the option to waive him, which saves all the money that isn't guaranteed that 4th year.

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    FWIW on Parker who shares the same agent as James, CP3, and Anthony; all 4 of these guys have expressed that they wanted to join super teams:

    Parker already has publicly stated his intention to pass on an extension and become a free agent next summer,

    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/1...eadlines;other

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    It's four more years for Jefferson
    By Jeff McDonald on Jul 21, 10 06:52 PM
    http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblog...ur-more-y.html

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    Really bad contract considering he had no market at all !!

    Really disappointing offseason !! The only good thing was Splitter.
    Actually I disagree with this sentiment. How many good small forwards were on the market this summer? And how many could have been had for what was left of the MLE after Splitter's contract?

    Spurs had no options and were desperate. Sure Jefferson didn't have a lot of teams that could afford to pay him what he was looking for, but if he had gone somewhere else for less money, then the Spurs would have been screwed. Our D-League graduates amount to 13th-15th man scrubs. They wouldn't be in the league but for the NBA's decision to expand a roster to 15 players.

    Worse, we would have had to part with a key piece to get any upgrade at that position.

    He needed us, but we needed him.

    I think the front office has a better idea of Jefferson's skills than a lot of people posting here who act like he isn't fit for the NBA or something.

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    Partially guaranteed means Spurs have the option to waive him, which saves all the money that isn't guaranteed that 4th year.
    Only if the player opts in... otherwise, he'll be a free agent and other than a S&T, the Spurs don't see anything. Obviously, they don't have to pay the partially guaranteed money either.

    It's both a player option and a partial guarantee on the last year.

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    LMAO at people celebrating this. The logic that "RJ was our best option" means nothing if you truly want to win a le because he does nothing to help that. He might not hurt the chances. He might keep the chances from sliding backwards a bit, but he does not help the chances at realistically winning a le.

    If that is truly the goal, the the Spurs FO has failed miserably in that regard.

    A huge to this deal and what it could mean.

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    its a good deal. could be much worse.
    DesignatedT,

    You defend Finley, Bonner, and now this contract.

    Honest question: do you work for the Spurs organization? If not, then you should send them an invoice.

    It's been a long day at the office. Take a break. Save your energy for telling us how giving Bogans a raise is good for our le run.

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    What numbers are you using for RJ, Splitter, and Bonner?

    I believe that they're still under the tax with the 10 guaranteed contracts plus Temple/Gee/Hairston. Jerrells will be cut.
    I've got Splitter down for 3.4 mil, RJ for 8.4 mil, and Bonner down for 4 mil.

    If however, Bonner's deal were escalated then the first year would be around $3,422,271, which makes the tax hit about $440K

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    WGAF about years 3 and 4? If he'll suck as much as some of you think, the higher the lotto pick.
    WGAF about this year when the Spurs have not shot at a le with RJ? And yes, I disagree that if the Spurs let RJ go and just had Malik + filler + possible trade to work with that the Spurs would have definitely been worse off.

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    I am still shocked at the overpaying. Did RJ have a picture of R.C Buford and Popovich in the men's toilet doing stuff? Or did they not allow him to join them? I just don't get this.

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    I've got Splitter down for 3.4 mil, RJ for 8.4 mil, and Bonner down for 4 mil.

    If however, Bonner's deal were escalated then the first year would be around $3,422,271, which makes the tax hit about $440K
    I've seen Bonner's first year as low as as $2.85m, with 10% increases for 4 seasons. Not official numbers though.

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    The FO is REALLY afraid of change. Bonner and RJ were about to vanish but instead of trying to find new talent we take the easy way out and bring back the same problems. This is like an orphanage for millionaires.

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    I've seen Bonner's first year as low as as $2.85m, with 10% increases for 4 seasons. Not official numbers though.
    If it's for $16mil, that won't work

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    Let us celebrate the mediocrity of Tim's last years and look forward to the future with Matt and RJ leading the way.

    The Spurs just Cleavlanded Duncan's last years.

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    I like this signing. RJ came back cheaper just like I thought he would.

    This contract just might tell us what kind of person RJ really is. Here are a couple of assumptions I have made.

    1. Since it is bottom heavy, it would seem that RJ is of course pissed about his last performance and feels he didn't earn it. The man grew up with ministers after all. This is the epitome of integrity and personal accountability.

    2. Now that he is back with the Spurs, him signing for much less for the first years of the new contract tells me he still wants the Spurs to have roster flexibility, in case he has an encore performance of last season.

    3. Contract shows me a man bent on redemption. He will get his money from the Spurs AFTER he proves himself.

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    FWIW on Parker who shares the same agent as James, CP3, and Anthony; all 4 of these guys have expressed that they wanted to join super teams:

    Then trade his ass.

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    I've got Splitter down for 3.4 mil, RJ for 8.4 mil, and Bonner down for 4 mil.

    If however, Bonner's deal were escalated then the first year would be around $3,422,271, which makes the tax hit about $440K
    Ok. I'm figuring Bonner at 3.0M and nothing for Jerrells. 13 players fit under the tax line that way.

    It will be interesting to see if they use the remainder of the MLE or the LLE. Doing so would definitely put them over the line.

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    LMAO at people celebrating this. The logic that "RJ was our best option" means nothing if you truly want to win a le because he does nothing to help that. He might not hurt the chances. He might keep the chances from sliding backwards a bit, but he does not help the chances at realistically winning a le.

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    That is nothing more than just your opinion. I have to disagree.

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