Gary Neal was accused for rape?

[SpursTillTheEnd]

Too bad you think someone needs to rape a girl in order to get laid. She was barfing in the ing sink, dude.

u ing stupid i can tell u never drank with a girl, how u know they wasnt ing before she threw up,

[spizzle_tronk]

Just in, Richard Jefferson just purchased 6 cases of Jack Daniels

[FuzzyLumpkins]

-This wasn't just some "drunk girl"..I've been with plenty of drunk girls, I've never ed one while she was vomiting ..that's just disgusting..I've never looked at a girl while she was vomiting and thought, "Damn, she's so sexy, I love that throw up noise"..

Big difference between "drunk", and "black out, vomiting drunk"..

-I don't think this is just some stupid thing ..whatever though, like I said, it depends on your view point..everybody is en led to their own opinion..

There is vomiting and then there is vomiting.

More than likely she took a couple of shots and threw it right back up. Most anyone would throw up if they took 8 shots back to back.

It was in the sink so that does mean something. She was standing over the sink. Typically if you are really really ed up you are on the floor of the bathroom leaning on the toilet. If you are just needing to puke to keep going thats a completely different thing. Its kinda like the fat guy in Varsity Blues puking in the washer and then getting up better than before.

Anyone who has done a lot of MDMA knows what I am talking about.

The point is that her puking does not mean she was passed out and roofied ready for a dead fish.

[HarlemHeat37]

There is vomiting and then there is vomiting.

More than likely she took a couple of shots and threw it right back up. Most anyone would throw up if they took 8 shots back to back.

It was in the sink so that does mean something. She was standing over the sink. Typically if you are really really ed up you are on the floor of the bathroom leaning on the toilet. If you are just needing to puke to keep going thats a completely different thing. Its kinda like the fat guy in Varsity Blues puking in the washer and then getting up better than before.

Anyone who has done a lot of MDMA knows what I am talking about.

The point is that her puking does not mean she was passed out and roofied ready for a dead fish.

Well he was doing it from behind, so he could have easily been holding her up from the waist the entire time while she was vomiting in the sunk, it wouldn't be that difficult..he's 6'4 210, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have any trouble..

Alright, that's enough of this for one day, I didn't think I would be re-enacting potential rape scenes in my head today..

Whatever, either way, everybody is en led, I'm just saying how I find it disgusting..

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well he was doing it from behind, so he could have easily been holding her up from the waist the entire time while she was vomiting in the sunk, it wouldn't be that difficult..he's 6'4 210, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have any trouble..

Alright, that's enough of this for one day, I didn't think I would be re-enacting potential rape scenes in my head today..

Whatever, either way, everybody is en led, I'm just saying how I find it disgusting..

Hey its definitely not my thing. My whole point is that puking does not mean she was out of her mind.

Neal apparently has a drinking problem though. Lets just hope hes not a sociopath.

[ElNono]

As long as he hits the 3 while he's on the court, he can bang drunk pakis for all I care.

[gospursgojas]

I havent been this disapointed in a spur since I found out Tim Duncan forced himself on that girl whilst at Wake

[Dave McNulla]

He was acquitted because there wasn't enough evidence to say that it wasn't consensual. However, there's no denying he was part of running a train on a girl that was throwing up from drinking. Sick, even if not illegal.

i wouldn't mind knowing more, but i don't know enough to say he did something tragically wrong.

two guys and one girl? maybe neal went first, so it wasn't a train until the other guy got with her. i don't know, but there's a 50/50 chance. was he drunk? don't know.

if he was sloshed and she was sloshed and both said yes, which one was too drunk to be consensual, so who raped who?

not saying those things happened, but i don't know they did not. and i certainly don't know the mindset of the jury and i don't know what happened. i'll reserve judgement for when i know more.

[DPG21920]

Does Neal blast Soul Asylum in his car?

Nothing? Tough sub.

[toki9]

move on to the fact that Neal was kicked off his team on Italy for getting sp smashed he couldn't play the next game.

Could you elaborate on this, please? Sounds like this was more recent (and thus more pertinent?)

[toki9]

By the way, i feel like the 40-Year Old Virgin after having read some of these posts...oh, wait...

[peacemaker885]

Tsk...this sounds like bad karma. Either the FO didn't know the whole story or they are just plain desperate. No way you treat women that way, whoever you are.

[toki9]

http://blog.shamsports.com/2010/04/w...0-part-47.html

Gary Neal was spending his second season with Benetton Treviso, and was leading Serie A in scoring with a 19.4 points per game average. I say "was" for a reason; Benetton released Neal last week. They did this because two weeks ago, Neal went out and got absolutely smashed with Armani Jeans Milano guard Alex Acker, and was subsequently too ill to play in Benetton's next game. Benetton did not take too kindly to a play missing a game for this reason, and they took action. Swift and decisive action. (Neal landed on his feet, signing with Unicaja Malaga in Spain's ACB a matter of days later. But Acker was waived by Milano later the same week. Was this partly the reason why? Could not say.)

In Neal's half-arsed defense, the game in question was against Martos Napoli. Napoli's "struggles" this season - if you can call a catastrophic implosion of a sports franchise that - have been well do ented on this site before, and if you're not familiar with them then I implore you to read up on them. Benetton didn't need Gary Neal to beat Napoli; they didn't need anybody to beat Napoli. Even without Neal, Benetton won 169 to 29, Napoli's worst defeat thus far in a season full of history-makingly-awful losses. But that's hardly the point. Neal was unprofessional and not able to play, which is not what they were paying him for. The team could have downplayed it so as to not lose arguably their best player. But they didn't. They took a stand for their virtues. So they cut him.

Hedo Turkoglu, Bryan Colangelo and MLSE, take note. This is how it's done.

Oh, boy...so, strike 2 so far? (And thank you, Phila, for the story)

[Whisky Dog]

With all the star player collusion and team collision in the past the Spurs probably don't care about this kid's past transgressions if he can step on the NBA court and nail 3s when it matters.

I wouldn't care is Bonner gang banged es and snorted coke if he would just show some balls and knock down big playoffs shots.

[byrontx]

I was a pretty bad boy, until I hit the 30's and straightened up. Maybe Neal did it sooner. I spent half my money on bad women, alcohol, and drugs... and wasted the other half. Banging drunk ho's pulling trains and being too drunk to show up for work was a typical weekend. And that is just the legal stuff (for the most part). The other stuff you don't talk about.

You can wake up one day and decide there is another side to life. Maybe Neal has done that. Give him a chance. The FO has.

[Birn]

Gary Neal has obviously made some bad decisions in his past. However, somebody help me understand what he should have been doing since those bad mistakes to help himself and others? Also, does he have the right to make a living with his chosen skill?

[ducks]

spurs brought in sj and got him on the right track

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't really care if he's drinking and doing a lot of drugs, TBH..not really a big deal, everybody can do whatever they want with their body, it doesn't affect my life..

I just hate hearing about women incidents like this, I have a soft spot for it..

[HarlemHeat37]

spurs brought in sj and got him on the right track

What's up Ducky?..

How's everything?..good?..

[jag]

Loose girl gives it up to multiple guys on college sports team and once everyone finds out about it she says it was rape.

This is much more common than a lot of people in here think. When you're a college basketball star you don't have to rape girls or force yourself on unconscious girls to get some ass. You take your pick from whichever girls are in line.

Harlemheat said "at best they banged a girl while vomiting." That's ridiculous...
At best, they had sex with this girl at separate times in the same night while she was completely aware and willing, and she got embarrassed when people found out. Guys on college sports teams running trains on girls is not the slightest bit rare. It's definitely not my style, but some of these girls who hang out with these guys are straight up s.

[HarlemHeat37]

Loose girl gives it up to multiple guys on college sports team and once everyone finds out about it she says it was rape.

This is much more common than a lot of people in here think. When you're a college basketball star you don't have to rape girls or force yourself on unconscious girls to get some ass. You take your pick from whichever girls are in line.

Harlemheat said "at best they banged a girl while vomiting." That's ridiculous...
At best, they had sex with this girl at separate times in the same night while she was completely aware and willing, and she got embarrassed when people found out. Guys on college sports teams ruining trains on girls is not the slightest bit rare. It's definitely not my style, but some of these girls who hang out with these guys are straight up s.

I don't or haven't denied any of that..I also never said I believed he raped her, and I've also said that any girl that is involved in a train is obviously a ..

However, IIRC, it was acknowledged and accepted that they ran a train on her while she was vomiting..he obviously got kicked out for a reason..it's also apparent that he has drinking issues from those other stories..am I wrong about the vomiting?..my point was that it's disgusting, which can't be argued..

I find it to be creepy as ..I've seen a lot of trains in my lifetime, but never seen somebody ing while vomiting..

[jag]

I don't or haven't denied any of that..I also never said I believed he raped her, and I've also said that any girl that is involved in a train is obviously a ..

However, IIRC, it was acknowledged and accepted that they ran a train on her while she was vomiting..he obviously got kicked out for a reason..it's also apparent that he has drinking issues from those other stories..am I wrong about the vomiting?..my point was that it's disgusting, which can't be argued..

Actually, I don't think Neal and the other player ever agreed to the girl's version of events regarding throwing up in the sink while they had sex with her. I tried to look into it because it interests me as a legal matter as well as a Spurs matter, but I never could find where it said either way definitively. It does appear from what I can infer that the accusations regarding the girl throwing up while they had sex with her were coming only from the girl's statements/testimony and the prosecutor's opening statement (which also came from the girl's statement). I don't think either player ever corroborated that part of her accusation.

One thing that I found while researching it was that the girl also testified to sitting in the other player's (not Neal) lap just prior to the incident and telling him that she had performed oral sex on yet another Lasalle player. Also, Neal apparently testified as to oral sex being performed on him, which would indicate that she certainly wasn't throwing up the whole time, at least.

The players' version of events was that she did everything willingly, and later regretted it because of the damage to her reputation after word got out, so she falsified the rape accusation. The jury apparently believed that version of events enough to find them not guilty.

I'm conflicted just because of the accusation, but if Neal's version of events is true (and we don't have any reason to believe otherwise), and the girl made up all of the damning accusations (including even the fact that she was throwing up drunk at the time), then can you imagine how much he's been through because of this?

I find it to be creepy as ..I've seen a lot of trains in my lifetime, but never seen somebody ing while vomiting..

I've never participated in, or sat by and watched my buddies run a train. I find it equally creepy that you've "seen" a lot of trains in your time.

[HarlemHeat37]

I find it hard to believe that they would kick him out without knowing something..did he fight the decision?..the vomiting story sounds believable to me, so does making up the rape accusations out of embarrassment of getting ed while vomiting..

You don't find sex while vomiting to be strange and creepy?..





It happened pretty often at random house parties in my neighborhood growing up..

It's not like I sat there and examined it closely..

[8FOR!3]

LOL college girls don't get raped. They're completely willing. This dude is a pro caliber athlete, it's not like he had a hard time getting any in college. Therefore; no reason to rape. That's the verdict. lol at this sons.

[HarlemHeat37]

LOL college girls don't get raped. They're completely willing. This dude is a pro caliber athlete, it's not like he had a hard time getting any in college. Therefore; no reason to rape. That's the verdict. lol at this sons.

Don't do it bro, don't do it..