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  1. #26
    timvp
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    It looks like the Spurs can get 1 MAX free agent and have $2-3M at most left over to play with.

    Does it make more sense to get that one MAX FA or divide it amongst 2-3 players?

    Does the philosophy change if you win the championship?

  2. #27
    spurster
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    Another assumption in Kori's calculations is that the Spurs sign a 30% max contract (a player with 6 or more seasons) as opposed to a 25% max contract (a player with fewer than 6 seasons). A 25% max contract would add about $2M to the After Max amount.

  3. #28
    CrazyOne
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    I'm glad that there are some folks here who have taken the time and effort to figure out all these cap room rules... then again, it makes me slightly nervous at the same time.

  4. #29
    genghisrex
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    Claxton is probably the odd man out unless he re-signs for scraps. I'm not sure if he can be eligible to be Early Bird like Jax (not sure if assigned is interpreted as traded in the definition of Early Qulaifying Veteran), but even so it will cost $1.35 million to make the qual offer, which might keep them from bringing Kidd in and is way more than he's worth right now with his injury histroy.
    Speedy's fourth year option would have been $1,659,808. Because the Spurs did not pick-up this option, their Bird Rights are limited to the value of the option ($1,659,808).

    As a Bird FA coming off of a rookie scale contract and receiving less than the average salary, 300% of Speedy's current salary ($1,076,400 x 3 = $3,229,200) will count against the cap this summer until he is either re-signed or renounced.

    Because Speedy will count more against the cap ($3,229,200) than the Spurs can exceed the cap with Bird Rights to re-sign him ($1,659,808), the team's Bird Rights are useless.

    Since the team's Bird Rights will be useless and Speedy will tie up $3,229,200 of cap space, the Spurs will almost certainly renounce him, even if they intend to re-sign him later.

    Because Pop/RC did not pick-up Claxton's fourth-year option, he will be an unrestricted FA, and the team cannot restrict him with a Q.O.

  5. #30
    KoriEllis
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    True that I was calculating it on 30% max freeagent, looking at the scenario where most of the money would be eaten by one guy to see what we'd have left.

    There are a lot of possibilities. And who knows what the cap will come in at, hopefully at least $43M.

  6. #31
    timvp
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    Nice breakdown, Ginseng.

    Losing Claxton would be a bad thing.

    It will become even harder to sign him if the Spurs go far in the playoffs and he plays an important role.

  7. #32
    Big Syke
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    So how much space would we have if we signed a 25%er rather than a 30%er?

  8. #33
    Spursman
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    It seems to me that everyone is obsessing over the cap. The real concern should be the luxury cap threshold. You can go over the cap and no big deal, just beware the luxury cap.

  9. #34
    timvp
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    The Spurs won't be able to go over the cap enough to come close to the luxury threshold this season.

  10. #35
    DrEmilioLizardo
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    ^^^What timvp said. I think that the Spurs can go over for Jackson, and they have limited Bird rights on Speedy. I believe that they don't have to pay him minimum, they can Bird him up to what his year 4 rookie deal would have been, about 1.9M. I'm not sure what he counts agaisnt the cap after the season, though. Anybody know Speedy's cap figure?

  11. #36
    Big Syke
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    From what I figure it's around two and a half million.

  12. #37
    Aggie Hoopsfan
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    timvp,

    The qualifying offer for SJax is a saving grace, although I've heard from somewhere else that there is a penalty for having a player in his "pending" state when you are trying to sign a FA. Hopefully this is not the case. Anyone hear anything about this or is it for sure just a little less than $900K to lock him up?
    Looks like just the $900K or so.

    The amount of the qualifying offer for players on rookie "scale" contracts is based on the player's draft position (see question number 38 ). The qualifying offer for all other players must be for 125% of the player's previous salary, or the player's minimum salary (see question number 9 ) plus $150,000, whichever is greater.
    Per the CBA.

    AHF

  13. #38
    MannyIsGod
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    Thanks for the link AHF.

    A post championship analysis by mean reveals the following.

    - Kidd is coming.
    - Speedy is almost certainly gone.
    - Jax will return

    Why? If we go after another big man, we almost certainly will lose Speedy, since if we sign a max free agent and Jax to a deal, we will basicaly have nothing left to sign him.

    Oneal appears more and more to be staying with Indiana, We can't sit around and wait for Brand because we have too many open spots on our roster, and bringing in wing players doesn't make sense because we have an over abundence of talented players on the wing as it is.

    That leaves us with the Kidd option. The more I think about TP playing with kidd, I like it. I like the influence Kidd would have on Manu and Jax. If Kidd can make RJ look like a superstar at times, I can't wait to see waht he can do with Manu and Jax.

    As wierd and scary as it sounds, with the new zone rules , I could see the spurs at times running a 4 guard offense around TP. Kidd, Parker, Jax, and Manu around Tim. , if nothing else, that would be so much ing fun to watch.

    I think this would also mean we would bring back both Kerr and Willis.

    So basically this is what I see happening.

    -Kidd signing
    -Speedy leaving.
    -Kerr and Willis coming back along with Jax

    It would be wonderful if we could get scola up here to at least see what he has, but doesn't look like that will happen untill next year.

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