Pau
Dirk
You forgot that, tbh.
Is this a serious question? Only stupid Laker trolls would pick Gasol. I think Gasol would be sexier on the Spurs than Dirk, but as far as overall talent goes, Dirk destroys Gasol. Dirk is an MVP caliber player while Gasol is a great second option on a championship team.
id go with gasol after last season ... even pop called him the most skilled big man in the nba ...
qft. Pau fits on many mid-level teams to create championship contenders of them but if you want to build a team from scratch, you go with Dirk.
If you want to build a team from scratch to perceptually fail, yeah you would go with Dirk.
I still recall Kobe on the first ABC game after the trade in the post game/on court interview. No game face, no set chin, no dry mouth, just unabashed joy at the acquisition of Gasol. He literally hopped off the court after the interview concluded. It was adorable.
I'd thought: big f'in deal....the guy is nothing more than a smooth operator like Dirk, cept he operates 2 feet closer than Dirk's 20 foot soft seat/operating area.
Gee, was I all wet.
Bryant knew though.
Also, it kinda seems like you're attempting to bait Mavfan, especially with that last line. If you're not serious, I have to remind you that Dirk is a #1 option surrounded by decent players. Kidd is old, Butler disappears in the playoffs, JET is old and streaky, Marion is old and can't shoot, etc. They will be better with another season under their belt, but if you combined the Lakers and Mavs 6 best players, it would be: Kobe, Dirk, Gasol, Bynum, Odom, and Artest. Obviously Dirk's shooting percentage will be slightly lower when he shoots way more shots, especially tough fadeaways, and he doesn't have the luxury of having a great defensive team and the second best player in the game taking pressure off of him.
Nowitzki is a superior player to Gasol. I like Pau but it's sickening how before he played with LA he was a no one, just a decent player, without A SINGLE playoff victory. Now that he has Kobe and one of the most talented teams assembled in the last decade, he's an MVP caliber player. Riiiiight.
I voted for Dirk and I really didn't think that it was that hard of a decision. If they had switched places, IMHO the Lakers would have still won back to back Championships with Dirk and the Mavericks would have gone no farther in the playoffs lead by Pau. Pau is a GREAT player and fits in extremely well with the Lakers, but Dirk is more of a number one option in my eyes.
The only thing Dirk does better than Gasol is shoot from long distance.
This alpha dog talking point is hilarious because Dirk has failed time and time again as said alpha dog. Dirk even himself when Stephen Jackson made him his personal . Gasol/Dirk are born of the same tier. Both were born to be number 2s.
Nothing wrong with that.
I think Nelson threw everyone and the kitchen sink at Dirk, and his teammates didn't respond very well. Hard to fault him for that.
Not really no. And that Warriors defense was one of worst of all time to be honest.
Instead of responding Dirk assumed the fetal position. Hardly a kingly inspiration to his lowly subjects.
Yep, yep.
Pretty sure this topic was made before within the last two months
lol @ trying to bait the mav
This thread was made with the intention of determine who the better player is. Nothing more than that.
2 years ago, I pick Dirk without question.
1 year ago, I hesitate, maybe still picking Dirk but thinking hard about it.
Today, Gasol has grown as a player by bounds since he first came to the Lakers, inspired mostly by the fiery lashings of Kobe Bryant and the Lakes coaching staff, and his game has improved to the point where he can safely be said to be a better all-around basketball player than Dirk Nowitzi. For the all crap I give to the Mavs, I respect Dirk and like him a lot. And as a scorer, he's definitely the better of the two. But Gasol is better at literally everything else having to do with basketball. And the fact that he plays close to the basket where his big-man skills do more to help the team than he could from the perimeter closes the gap on Dirk's scoring ability.
Yeah, I know Pau's stats are around the same now as they were years ago. But watching him the past 3 years, he is without a doubt a substantially better ball player now than he was then. And a lot of it just has to do with aggressiveness. He doesn't let the game come to him anymore. Now, he takes it. And its been a blessed joy to watch happen.
Here we go again...
Pau Gasol is a much better player. Can't even compare the two, really.
Yea if we're talking about entire careers I'd go with Dirk but if its right now I'm going with Gasol. He's become a better player since '08 especially when it comes to confidence and strength. Gasol's also two years younger and has multiple Finals/championships for experience. Easier to build around a traditional big as well than a stretch 4; thats another advantage for Pau - his versatility lets him play both the 4 and 5 without missing a step.
The goods.
@ Pau > Dirk.
crofl
My favorito Dirk (who btw has a carreer playoff average of 27/11/2) obviously owned/still owns Pau in every imaginable match-up. (u should watch some Mavs-Lakers/Fiba World Cup games - Dirks used to blast +30 points in Paus face on a regular basis)
If my predilecto Dirk would have a Top 5 of all-time player as his Batman...man...we would be talkin about at least five of these babys:
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Gasol wins this hands down. I can't stand either, but Gasol is the closest thing to prime Duncan since prime Duncan (that being said, he's not even close), in terms of the all around game.
Nowitzki is strictly a great scorer, but he also shoots more than any other big man in the game. Give Gasol the same amount of shots as Nowitzki and the scoring gap between them closes.
Outside of range shooting and maybe ball handling, Gasol's got him beat in every other category. He's got a better back to the basket game, he rebounds better, is a better shot blocker, a better passer, a better individual and team defender, etc.
Nowitzki is one of the most overrated players in the history of the game.
Yeah, and we all know how far the Grizzlies went with Gasol as the number one man.
Got to go with the back-2-back Champion here. He dominated these playoffs.
Replace Gasol with Dirk, and the Lakers will win 4 championships in a row.
Oh wait, shouldn't have said that out loud, the league will now force the Mavs into trading Nowitzki to the Lakers for 2 2nd round picks, Nowitzki younger brother, and Derek Fisher who would somehow opt out of a contract and resign with the Lakers.
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