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    that's bull .

    Animals are driven by instinct.
    You don't think animals are capable of learning?

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    You don't think animals are capable of learning?
    apes learn, still their capacity to use reason is based on desire. They have a very limited reasoning capacity.

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    apes learn, still their capacity to use reason is based on desire. They have a very limited reasoning capacity.
    Why do men look for women? Desire for sex or intimacy

    Why do you look for a job and earn money? Desire for food and shelter

    Really, we're still very similar. Just more complex in the way we do things.

    but if you break it down....it's just sophisticated monkeys walking around trying to , eat good food, find entertainment, and gain territory/property.

    Hence my le.

    We even use the same tactics. A businessman or politician will ally himself with likeminded people who will support his cause, and reward them with favors and special privileges.

    Chimpanzee's do the same thing. The Alpha Male of the troop will give extra rations of food to his loyal supporters.

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    apes learn, still their capacity to use reason is based on desire. They have a very limited reasoning capacity.
    Don't move goalposts. I never said animals were going to write philosophies. Beyond apes many animals show the capacity for rational thought.

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    Don't move goalposts. I never said animals were going to write philosophies. Beyond apes many animals show the capacity for rational thought.

    You NOT having any education really sucks. Humans are not animals dumbass. Humans have emotions and can reason. Animals could give two s about most things. If you think your neighbors hamster or turtle is similar to yourself........that is your business.

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    You NOT having any education really sucks. Humans are not animals dumbass. Humans have emotions and can reason. Animals could give two s about most things. If you think your neighbors hamster or turtle is similar to yourself........that is your business.

    Dogs cant get angry? How about scared? Those are emotions.
    You also conceded that apes can reason a few posts back, but not as well as humans seems to be your arguement.

    Great, no one has said that any animal is able to do all of these things to a human's level, just that humans are more advanced versions of animals.

    A dog is MS-DOS, Humans are Windows 7.

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    You NOT having any education really sucks. Humans are not animals dumbass. Humans have emotions and can reason. Animals could give two s about most things. If you think your neighbors hamster or turtle is similar to yourself........that is your business.
    LOL UTSA

    I'm pretty sure Sapiens are a member of the Kingdom Animalia. So yes, humans are animals. Animals show emotion and the ability to reason too.

    Why are you so afraid to be an animal?

    The funny thing is I'm talking in completely undeniable and broadly accepted facts and you can't handle it.

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    BTW, don't LOL UTSA, I am getting my master's there. Maybe you could "LOL not paying attention in science class from 6th grade on up" or something like that.

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    LOL UTSA

    I'm pretty sure Sapiens are a member of the Kingdom Animalia. So yes, humans are animals. Animals show emotion and the ability to reason too.

    Why are you so afraid to be an animal?

    The funny thing is I'm talking in completely undeniable and broadly accepted facts and you can't handle it.

    Sorry UNM knucklehead (tier 3 school founded in 1889) ..............but, I believe in the word, not evolution. God created heaven and earth, he created man...........he created woman..........he created animals. Im not an animal.

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    Sorry UNM knucklehead (tier 3 school founded in 1889) ..............but, I believe in the word, not evolution. God created heaven and earth, he created man...........he created woman..........he created animals. Im not an animal.
    See there Manny, you can "LOL ignoring significant DNA similarities" or "LOL using a story book to get your science" or "LOL using a book written by man to prove that man is better and different than animals (who had no input on the book that man wrote)"

    Plenty of options.

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    See there Manny, you can "LOL ignoring significant DNA similarities" or "LOL using a story book to get your science" or "LOL using a book written by man to prove that man is better and different than animals (who had no input on the book that man wrote)"

    Plenty of options.
    Thank you. Thats what Ive been trying to tell Manny.

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    I will ponder the LOL options you have given me and I will consult THE WORD in order to choose one. Your UTSA education has served you well, Drachen.

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    Your UTSA education has served you well.
    Your UNM education hasnt.

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    I cannot speak for all animals,

    But in my limited knowledge, I feel animals are ultimately driven by survival.

    The difference is that I don't believe they have any understanding of an afterlife.

    Therefore, survival on earth is the extent of their capacity.

    We have a higher calling.

    We all have a spiritual center, that unfortunately, we neglect too often.

    Animals can therefore seem much wiser than those humans that turn away from their spiritual center, as humans tend to make stupid decisions all the time when their heart is not right.

    Animals will then to make the right decision for survival, I don't know...9 times out of 10 maybe...while humans that are lost in this world do stupid things...like drink and drive...have unprotected sex with multiple partners and risk disease...smoke like chimney's giving themselves just a touch of cancer one day at a time...cuss and provoke others unnecessarily due to our own inner insecurities and our desire to 'prove' that we feel no pain, when in fact those are the ones hurting most of all...


    The difference between us and animals, as far as I know, is a spiritual one.

    If you reject your spiritual being, then you eliminate that difference.

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    oh great.....the word. /thread

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    Your UNM education hasnt.
    I am not sure that you could tell. Your education at the Jesus School of Science and Technology at Bible U doesn't seem to have helped much.
    Last edited by Drachen; 08-05-2010 at 11:17 AM.

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    JTT Tech?

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    How come animals have not learned to speak English???

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    How come animals have not learned to speak English???
    Ok, now THAT was funny.

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    Do you know sign language, Pope Lebomb?

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    Man is a rational being because he can choose to live or die. Animals are driven by instinct to live.

    Also only man has the rational capabilities to transcend nature, chimps don't, nor do chimps recognize their choice to live or die.

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    How come animals have not learned to speak English???
    not speak...but understand and assemble thoughts...
    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/liv...ink.cnn?hpt=T2

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    double post

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