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  1. #51
    T Park Num 9
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    2 cleva are you totally re ed?

    Duncan will only want to get rid of any of his guys to UPGRADe at that position.


    Spreewell would not be an upgrade over Manu ginobili. PERIOD!

  2. #52
    kohai
    Guest
    You guys think Ginobili could be a 18-20 ppg scorer?
    On a bad team, with the ball in his hands a LOT, much like Spree over his career? YOU BET. Probably not here though, and I think even Spree would struggle to put up more than 15 points in this offense.

  3. #53
    NCaliSpurs
    Guest
    You guys think Ginobili could be a 18-20 ppg scorer?
    He and Parker can definitely get these types of numbers. It is just a matter of taking shots. SJax could probably get these types of numbers too. But if these 3 players are jacking up a bunch of shots, does our team get better? I don't think so.

    Sprewell is a 40% shooter. We might do better without him.

  4. #54
    Aggie Hoopsfan
    Guest
    Man, I will say this - if Memphis, Boston, or Denver end up with Brad Miller I will be angry.

    AHF

  5. #55
    T Park Num 9
    Guest
    sorry

    Brad Miller???

    The same guy you guys said would be a waste of money on this team?

    The Spurs sign an improving young center and now all of a sudden hes a plan A guy??

    God.....

  6. #56
    Aggie Hoopsfan
    Guest
    You do realize that if he goes to one of those teams it will be roughly for the same amount of money that we signed Rasho for?

    AHF

  7. #57
    NCaliSpurs
    Guest
    Brad Miller sucks. He is way overrated.

    I think Rasho would take his place as All-Star center, if he played in the east.

    Rasho >>> B. Miller.

  8. #58
    Shaq H8ter
    Guest
    The Knicks are dreaming!!


    - <------ Knicks

  9. #59
    Admiral
    Guest
    I would've much rather spent the amount Minnesota did on Olowokandi than we spent on Rasho, but oh well. That's another issue.

    As for this trade, I don't like it. I would really like to have Sprewell, but not for Manu. I doubt the Spurs would even consider such a deal that involves Malik. Pop's love for Malik is probably even greater than his love for Sprewell.

    If we obtain Kurt Thomas, though, I would rather start him at center than Rasho.

  10. #60
    T Park Num 9
    Guest
    yeah admiral lets start a pf next to Duncan

    cause after all, thats what hes wanted to be, a center!


    Kurt Thomas ahead of Nesterovic??? You guys are kidding right?



    You guys may not like the guy, but over here in Cali, people think the Spurs got a great deal.

    They said Nesterovic is starting to break out, he raised his average 3 points a game last year and has shown immediate improvement every year in the league.

    dude was in the tp 5 of shooting percentage.

    His defense is OK but look what pop's done with other ok defenders.

    You guys are being wayy too fricken hard on Rasho.

  11. #61
    Spurminator
    Guest
    I doubt Miller will go for the MLE. I would imagine those teams interested in him will have to give up someone in a S&T to get him out of Indy. I wouldn't be surprised if the Pacers are pushing for Nash.

  12. #62
    Admiral
    Guest
    yeah admiral lets start a pf next to Duncan

    cause after all, thats what hes wanted to be, a center!


    Kurt Thomas ahead of Nesterovic??? You guys are kidding right?

    You guys may not like the guy, but over here in Cali, people think the Spurs got a great deal.

    They said Nesterovic is starting to break out, he raised his average 3 points a game last year and has shown immediate improvement every year in the league.

    dude was in the tp 5 of shooting percentage.

    His defense is OK but look what pop's done with other ok defenders.

    You guys are being wayy too fricken hard on Rasho. -T Park num 9
    T Park, here are the 2002-2003 stats for both players (which include Rasho's dramatic 3 ppg scoring increase):

    Rasho Nesterovic: 11.2 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 1.5 BPG, .51 SPG
    Kurt Thomas: 14.0 PPG, 7.9 RPG, 1.2 BPG, 1.0 SPG

    Rasho's field goal percentage is higher than Thomas's, but Kurt Thomas brings toughness. He has a bit of a swagger that Rasho does not have. Why am I crazy for thinking that Thomas should start ahead of Nesterovic if the trade occurs?

  13. #63
    Solid D
    Guest
    Manu is a merchandising gold-mine, if the Spurs and NBA haven't already figured it out.

    Anyone notice the Spurs.com website lately and the espanol nba links. 'Didn't used to be that way, compadres.

    Anything Manu does in Argentina right now is in the papers.

    Example out of Cordova (Manu and Oberto's territory).

    translate.google.com/tran...epo_00.htm

    I'll bet a nice percentage of the populaton in Argentina has copped "20" Manu Spurs gear.

    David Robinson and Sean Elliott said that Manu is one guy they'd actually pay to see (and I think Barkley did also).

    Dude is the best thing to happen to San Antonio since Tim Duncan.

  14. #64
    Jimcs50
    Guest
    Here is the deal. Spurs get Kurt Thomas and Sprewell and we give up Rose and Speedy. Rose goes home to Philly and Speedy goes to NY.

  15. #65
    ALSPURS
    Guest
    Where did you find out the right trade?

  16. #66
    Jimcs50
    Guest
    This is the trade that I made up in chat last night, I think it is a good one....now if we can pull it off, then I will be happy.

  17. #67
    Solid D
    Guest
    Source is Jimcs50madeitup.com

    A widely trusted site, I might add! Right Jim?

  18. #68
    Fizzzar
    Guest
    Solid, it's Cordoba, my friend

  19. #69
    Jimcs50
    Guest
    Jimcs50wi .com

    I was just making it up as a wish trade, not to deceive anyone.

  20. #70
    Solid D
    Guest
    Sorry about that Fizzz. Even the translator has trouble with the b and v thing.

    And as Fizzz would say...
    "Experience is a comv that you reciebe when you get vald"

  21. #71
    Fizzzar
    Guest

  22. #72
    Guru of Nothing
    Guest
    Rasho Nesterovic: 11.2 PPG, 6.5 RPG, 1.5 BPG, .51 SPG
    Kurt Thomas: 14.0 PPG, 7.9 RPG, 1.2 BPG, 1.0 SPG
    Upon further review, here are Kurt Thomas's numbers against the Spurs, Lakers, Kings, Mavs, Timberwolves, Blazers, Rockets, and Suns from last year:

    29.4 minutes per game
    12.3 points per game (this includes two huge games against the Suns - 10.3 points per game otherwise)
    41.7 FG%
    2.6 FT attempts per game
    7.5 RBs per game

    Rasho has room to improve, and it's all downhill for Kurt Thomas from here on out.

    Just say NO to KT.

  23. #73
    kohai
    Guest
    I would've much rather spent the amount Minnesota did on Olowokandi than we spent on Rasho, but oh well. That's another issue.
    Repeat after me: the starting money wasn't much different.

    The MCE is 4.9M and projections were for Rasho's deal to start at 5.5M. BFD.

    Also, hard to compare numbers from an Eastern Conference power forward (Thomas) with a Western Conference center (Rasho). Thomas has also had MAJOR foot problems in his career. AFAIK, Rasho hasn't had any health issues at all.

  24. #74
    MannyIsGod
    Guest
    Is it just me, or do TParks takes seem Dizzeque to anyone else?

  25. #75
    T Park Num 9
    Guest
    christ

    just cause I like a player makes me a homer??

    Give me a break.


    Nesterovic will end up being a great pickup

    and this isnt just me saying this
    i have some Laker friends that said He was taking shaq to the hole and beating him around with his offense.

    They said his D could use work but with pop it will improve.


    Ok, but to fit in around here, Trade everyone get some gangster hoopas in here, team sucks, championship was accidental.

    Anyone that disagrees is a homer.

    There, everyone happy?

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