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    Poker Phenom. Heath Ledger's Avatar
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    Believe.
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    Later Spurstalkers, I gotta go to Costco
    Bigzax pulls out the Costco card?

    Down goes Jesus!

    Down goes Jesus!



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    Believe.
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    Only thing that would have made this better was if this was pray for view.

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    I know enough that I believe in Jesus Christ. I'll be the first to admit I am no Biblical Scholar nor claim to be one. Oh yeah, and I have boring takes and enjoy a margarita.
    That's cool with me, as long as you're not judging others using the words of the Bible. Although I do suggest you should read more into it someday.

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    Parts of the Bible preaching Love, inspired by God.

    Parts of the Bible preaching Hate, inspired by Lucifer.
    And what part does the "not eating s fish" requirement come from?

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    That's cool with me, as long as you're not judging others using the words of the Bible. Although I do suggest you should read more into it someday.
    I did belong to a Bible Study group years ago and I do listen to the scriptures during Mass on Sunday's. But I have found, as someone else posted, that people can read into it what they want. I just have never found that delving into the Bible was that crucial to my faith.

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    I am no troll. And I do not believe I can pick and choose what parts of the Bible are right. I believe I can read the bible clearly and see who was the inspiration behind the actions of the people in the Bible.
    How humble of you.

    The whole of the Bible is true as far as I'm concerned...with the one footnote being that Lucifer is posing as God in many instances in the Old Testament.
    That's a rather large footnote.

  8. #383
    Eh, Fuck It. easjer's Avatar
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    This thread is FULL of WIN. None of it from bigzax, of course - not in the way he intended anyhow.

    There are so many things I'd like to say, Zack, but I'll stick with this:

    Jesus the Christ was not the perfect Christian; he was Jewish, quite proudly so.

    You really, really need to stop talking. You are only doing your cause harm by your ridiculous statements and back-tracking and totally made-up nonsense. Half the stuff you claim to believe isn't biblical at all (leaving aside the issues with things that ARE biblical); it's exigent philosophies. For that matter, your understanding of Lucifer is pretty skewed as well and not really biblical.

    Which makes me think perhaps this is simply a smashing troll job.

    That said - Jekka, my offer to marry you (and Manny) stands. I would totally go polygamous and bi-sexual for you.

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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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    I don't feel I need justification for my unbelief. I am curious about what people believe, and why. I merely ask questions so that others may reflect on their beliefs and determine if they are held for valid reasons; that's not so wrong, is it?
    There is no way of proving your comments' sincerity... so, were I to take them at face value, my response would be, "fair enough."

    I'm ok with that, with one exception. Why would you punish people who didn't have faith with you? I could understand God saying, "Look, you didn't have faith in me, so you're not set up for Heaven." That's at least debatably fair. But I don't see the justification for eternal punishment.
    Eternal life IS defined by coming to know GOD, and acknowledging JESUS' role in the defeat of sin according to John 17. Those who reject GOD are basically turning their back on that communion. GOD basically says, "this is your choice? To reject my Son? To reject the gift of salvation that was attained by spilling the blood of He who knew not sin? Since that is your choice, and your choice alone - now you must live with the consequences of that choice - eternally apart from me".

    After all, if our free will wasn't paired along with the accountability for our choices, then what would be the point of having it? In other words, if we don't willingly choose GOD; we've essentially rejected Him. Consider this, the demons that decided to side with satan are no longer redeemable either.

    Another thing, you might not see or understand "the justification for eternal punishment"... but we are not GOD, HE is. Our reasoning and His reasoning aren't even on the same footing.

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    Eh, Fuck It. easjer's Avatar
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    But what are you praying to, man? This is a pretty bizarre thing you've constructed out of random passages of scripture and philosophies you don't understand.

    It's just unreal. Seriously - there is no logic in this at all. None. There is no support for your wild claims - Lucifer poses as God in the OT? The OT is unnecessary, because there is a NT? You don't believe it, but you do?

    The contradictions you've presented here are nearly as astounding as those contained in the bible, which utterly fails as a hermeneutical exercise, btw, because of the internal inconsistencies.

    You aren't bringing glory to God. You are being judgmental and asinine. Only True Believers, as defined by your half-assed, unschooled, scripturally inaccurate ideas, understand love?

    You are delusional.

    You want to make a difference. Live your life well. Stop preaching on the internet - that is the opposite of humility. You are utterly filled with pride, and you don't even see it. In fact, you'll give some ridiculous answer to this that tries to turn it around and lays everything at God's feet.

    Whatever.

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    But what are you praying to, man? This is a pretty bizarre thing you've constructed out of random passages of scripture and philosophies you don't understand.

    It's just unreal. Seriously - there is no logic in this at all. None. There is no support for your wild claims - Lucifer poses as God in the OT? The OT is unnecessary, because there is a NT? You don't believe it, but you do?

    The contradictions you've presented here are nearly as astounding as those contained in the bible, which utterly fails as a hermeneutical exercise, btw, because of the internal inconsistencies.

    You aren't bringing glory to God. You are being judgmental and asinine. Only True Believers, as defined by your half-assed, unschooled, scripturally inaccurate ideas, understand love?

    You are delusional.

    You want to make a difference. Live your life well. Stop preaching on the internet - that is the opposite of humility. You are utterly filled with pride, and you don't even see it. In fact, you'll give some ridiculous answer to this that tries to turn it around and lays everything at God's feet.

    Whatever.
    Bigzax has gotten chode bloated i saaaiiiiiiiiiiddddd!!!!

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    Zach, seriously keep on making a fool of yourself.


    thanx,

    Your regulator

    gtown

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    Corpus Christi Spurs Fan Phenomanul's Avatar
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    Another thing... it appears bigzak has been trolling everyone for months (years, if one accounts for his flip-flopping ways... going way back)... but the concept that the GOD of the Old Testament and the New Testament are somehow different is erroneous without the context of the Covenants GOD established between Himself and mankind...

    The New Covenant under the grace of Jesus' blood, protects us from facing the consequences of our actions as would otherwise be required if we were still under the Old Covenant (under the Law).

    GOD is HOLY and still demands payment for our sin; JESUS thus established a bridge to the Father whereby we are covered by His blood and aren't subjected to the only valid form of payment: death.

    GOD IS forever unchanging.... our accessability to Him, however, HAS changed by virtue of those covenants.

    That right there is the concept people seem to conveniently ignore as they ramble on about the supposed inconsistencies in GOD's nature. Only they don't really care to understand. It makes them feel better to believe that GOD can't exist if that ambivalent nature were to hold any weight. To each their own...
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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    C'mon Joe, I did not say that I do not post under other screen names. Only that I am no longer a troll, if I ever as one in the classic sense.

    As you may or may not have known, I post as xxx, gatoloco, fat , triumph, Master Yoda, Lt. Dan, Mr. Miyagi, skywalker...the list goes on and on...
    Dang, that is a long list.

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    May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace.
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