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    DarrinS commits 'bias' crime against Blake

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    Hard to tell. He seems to think reporting on the prosecution of these particular black folks for assault and hate crime violations amounts to a liberal scheme to cover the tracks of black racism.
    very plausible. Let's act coy to the fact that there's no racial heirarchy in victim status in this country.

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    very plausible. Let's act coy to the fact that there's no racial heirarchy in victim status in this country.
    you think it's very plausible that there is a liberal scheme that covers the tracks of black racism that trickles all the way down into communities such as Port Richmond?

    do you have any stats regarding racial hierarchy in victim status in this country?

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    If this is an effort to cover up instances of black racism, it's not a very good one, seeing as it's an AP article about blacks beating up Mexicans.

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    I clicked on your link again and still see nothing about Blacks, Mexicans, 'bias crimes', or New York City

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    you think it's very plausible that there is a liberal scheme that covers the tracks of black racism that trickles all the way down into communities such as Port Richmond?

    do you have any stats regarding racial hierarchy in victim status in this country?
    Why does a scheme have to exist for that idea to be plausible? why do stats have to exist covering this topic?

    Redo question please.

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    I may have not worded it correctly.

    I do not see anything concrete in that article you posted about Blacks committing 'bias' crimes against Mexicans in NYC.

    Apparently your ignore is broken along with your reading comprehension.

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    If this is an effort to cover up instances of black racism, it's not a very good one, seeing as it's an AP article about blacks beating up Mexicans.
    So a poor effort is an effort?

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    Why does a scheme have to exist for that idea to be plausible? why do stats have to exist covering this topic?

    Redo question please.
    What makes it very plausible to you?

    I figured you might have information on such that makes it such a plauisble idea.

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    So a poor effort is an effort?
    If it's really an effort.

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    What makes it very plausible to you?

    I figured you might have information on such that makes it such a plauisble idea.
    Do you not know any thing about progressive racial dogma?? You must be acting coy, if this a troll job, good effort.

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    not necessarily dogma, but their viewpoint on racism. Many progressives and liberals believe that racism exists only when a majority has hegemony over the minority. Any type of anger reflected back at the majority or outside group like asians is just a response for oppression.

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    *yawn*

    I never seem to think about race as often as some.

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    *yawn*

    I never seem to think about race as often as some.
    lol whitey

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    Do you not know any thing about progressive racial dogma??
    not much. Explain it, how it relates to this story and how it makes a liberal scheme to cover up black racism very plausible, please.

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    Talking about PC, this is a satire that I think you could never see in American TV...

    Unfortunately, it's for spanish speakers only:



    Micky Vainilla reminds me of a few posters in here.

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    just the manner in which the article seemed oddly 'precautionary'.
    that was my impression too. if a group of whites were the attackers, the article would sure as would have "racial" and "hate crime" all over the article.

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    maybe it's because Cristian Salazar is a Tio Tomas?

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    Talking about PC, this is a satire that I think you could never see in American TV...

    Unfortunately, it's for spanish speakers only:



    Micky Vainilla reminds me of a few posters in here.
    LOL at the revisionist cinderella story...

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    not much. Explain it, how it relates to this story and how it makes a liberal scheme to cover up black racism very plausible, please.
    You seem to want to employ scheme because then I have to argue wether a whole group of people are deliberately out of volition orchestrating this. You're either doing this to be dishonest or your trying to be adverserial. Do white people orchestrate together and scheme white flight, or is it an impulse that is reactionary based on their viewpoint?

    The whole "Scheme" description is a deliberate attempt to ridicule and not properly discuss the issue which has led me to conclude that you're not a serious poster.

    The story is about black on mexican crime. The question has to be asked if this was white on mexican crime, would the story be any different. Does the the journalist viewpoint on racial conflict and dogma affect his reporting? These are legitimate questions that would be posed in any journalism class, so i don't see why you can't take these questions seriously.

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    The question has to be asked if this was white on mexican crime, would the story be any different.
    A real journalistic take would find the relevant counterexamples and, you know, actually compare them. You're either too lazy or too dishonest to do so.

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    i'm having a hard time here trying to determine if the spin being built here is that the media is pro-black, anti-mexican or anti-white ?

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    A real journalistic take would find the relevant counterexamples and, you know, actually compare them. You're either too lazy or too dishonest to do so.
    You're too dishonest in trying to paint me as claiming to be a journalist. You want relevant examples, okay, here fine.

    We could also dismiss the political climate and race relations as they are too and act like idiots, like you're doing.



    written in the philadelphia enquirer


    Opinion


    Hispanics in the crosshairs
    By William C. Kashatus
    January 25, 2010
    On July 12, 2008, six white teenagers confronted Luis Eduardo Ramirez Zavala, a 25-year-old father of three and an illegal immigrant from Mexico, in an alley in Shenandoah, Pa. screaming racial slurs at him, the teens viciously kicked and beat him. He died in intensive care two days later.

    Two of the six assailants - 17-year-old Brandon Piekarsky and 18-year-old Derrick Donchak - were acquitted of the most serious charges by a Schuylkill County jury, but they were charged with federal hate crimes last month. They could receive life in prison if convicted.

    What makes the Shenandoah case even more disturbing is that three of the borough's police officers have been charged with obstructing the investigation into Ramirez's death. Police Chief Matthew Nestor, Lt. William Moyer, and Officer Jason Hayes are accused of helping the defendants dispose of crucial evidence, including the shoes used to deliver the final, fatal kick to Ramirez's head.

    The Shenandoah case is not an isolated incident. It's part of a frightening national pattern of anti-Latino hate crimes in the United States, which has paralleled growing resentment of illegal immigrants. Hate crimes against Latinos have surged 40 percent nationwide since 2003, according to recent FBI statistics. (The statistics are thought to undercount total hate crimes, but nevertheless indicate real trends.)

    Of the 1,347 victims attacked in this country because of their ethnicity or national origin in 2008, 62 percent were Hispanic. Though the most common offense was intimidation, there were at least nine murders and nonnegligent manslaughters. And convictions were rare.

    Many of the hate crimes take place in towns like Shenandoah, where there has been a significant increase in the Latino population over the last decade, and where Hispanics are competing with white workers for jobs in a struggling economy.

    Some of the towns are famous for having adopted harsh anti-immigrant ordinances. Hazleton, Pa., for example, approved an ordinance in 2006 making it illegal for individuals and businesses to aid undo ented workers, punishing landlords who rent or lease to them, suspending the licenses of businesses that hire them, and making English the city's official language. Similar measures targeting Hispanics have been passed in Riverside, N.J.; Palm Bay, Fla.; and San Bernardino, Calif. The measures echo the community-driven Repatriation Movement of the 1930s, which forced Mexicans to return to their native country.

    Other towns have been hotbeds of white supremacist activity. Hemet, Calif., for example, was the scene of a vicious hate crime in November, when four reputed white supremacist gang members knocked a Latino man unconscious and then repeatedly stomped on him and kicked him in the head. The victim suffered permanent brain damage and has been placed in a long-term-care facility.

    The same month, in Patchogue, N.Y., seven teens, six of them white, decided to "go fight a Mexican." They ended up attacking an Ecuadorean immigrant, who died of a fatal stab wound.

    According to investigators, both attacks were random, unprovoked, and motivated purely by racial hatred.

    Still other American towns have struggled with cases of racial intimidation. In Avon Park, Fla., Jose Gonzales, a U.S. citizen and mechanic, had his car and garage destroyed by an arsonist who spray-painted "F- Puerto Rico" on his house in September 2007. The first do ented anti-Latino attack of 2009 occurred on New Year's Day, when a Vallejo, Calif., motorist was arrested for gunning his vehicle toward a crowd of Latino day laborers.

    Latinos are inevitably the most convenient targets for such hate crimes. Illegal immigration is still a hot-button issue, and many of the most fervent immigration opponents are either unable or unwilling to distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants.

    Underlying this disturbing trend is the reality that the white establishment that once dominated education, business, and politics in this country is in decline. Latinos, meanwhile, are the fastest-growing segment of the population.

    Instead of resenting Latinos, the white mainstream must learn to share power with them and other minority groups. It's the only way we can move forward as a nation and capitalize on the social, economic, and political benefits of our diversity.
    __________________________________________________ _______
    WILLIAM C. KASHATUS is a professional historian and educator who holds a doctorate from the University of Pennsylvania. Kashatus has written for the New York Times, Philadelphia Daily News, and St. Louis Post-Dispatch, among other publications. His previous baseball books include September Swoon: Richie Allen, the '64 Phillies and Racial Integration; Mike Schmidt; Connie Mack's '29 Triumph; and One-Armed Wonder: Pete Gray, Wartime Baseball and the American Dream.William C. Kashatus is an educator, historian and author.
    Philadelphia Inquirer article at: http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/82575012.html

    In accordance with le 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed by HispanicVista.com (www.hispanicvista.com) without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.
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    BIAS VICTIMS

    There were 9,691 victims of hate crimes reported to the FBI in 2008. The victims were targeted because of bias against the following:

    Race / 4,934

    Religion / 1,732

    Sexual orientation / 1,706

    Ethnicity, national origin / 1,226

    Disability / 85

    Multiple biases / 8

    Source: FBI


    By Marisol Bello, USA TODAY
    The number of crimes against black people and members of religious groups increased in 2008, making up a growing share of incidents motivated by bias, the FBI reported Monday.
    The number of crimes against black people and members of religious groups increased in 2008, making up a growing share of incidents motivated by bias, the FBI reported Monday.

    FAITH & REASON: Attacks up against Jews, Catholics
    Those categories accounted for 56% of the 7,783 hate crimes reported in 2008. Overall, hate crimes increased 2% from 2007.

    The election of the first black president and hot-button issues such as abortion and gay marriage contributed to the es, anti-bias groups say.

    "There is this kind of extremism going on," says Hilary Shelton, director of the NAACP Washington bureau. He says Obama's election and the recession led to a backlash against blacks as some people look for someone to blame for hard economic times.

    The number of attacks on blacks increased 8% to 2,876, accounting for seven of every 10 race-motivated crimes.

    Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate & Extremism at California State University-San Bernardino, says it is hard to draw conclusions from the FBI data because the number of agencies reporting varies each year and some do better than others at classifying hate crimes.

    Most hate crimes, almost four in 10, involved property damage and vandalism. Almost three in 10 involve intimidation of a person. Three in 10 are assaults.

    Hate crimes based on sexual orientation increased 3% to 1,297,although the number of people victimized went up 13% to 1,706.

    Geo Vaughn, 23, of Queens, N.Y., reported to police that he was beaten in August 2008 in Manhattan by a gang of young men shouting anti-gay epithets. He says lesbians, gay men, bisexuals and transgender people are more vulnerable now because they are increasingly in the public eye in the debate over equal rights, including a California vote that overturned a new law allowing same-sex marriage.

    "It gives our attackers more drive to hurt us," he says.

    Two men have been charged with a hate crime against Vaughn.

    Hate crimes based on religion rose 9% to 1,519. Most, 67%, were against Jews. Incidents involving Catholics increased 23% to 75.

    Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, says traditional Catholics have become more vocal against abortion and gay marriage, making them targets for those who disagree with them.

    "It will probably get worse," he says. "These issues are not going away."

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    was the james byrd reporting listed as a bias crime.. or was the reporting ambigous as to wether it was racial?? LOL.. you guys never cease to amaze me.

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    i'm having a hard time here trying to determine if the spin being built here is that the media is pro-black, anti-mexican or anti-white ?
    Neither of those descriptions are accurate and you're presenting a false dilemna.

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