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    USA got to the line so much more than Brazil. That was a big difference-maker in a close game. lol Brazil 4-8 on FTs for the entire game.

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    The difference was that Team USA had the best player (Durant) and he played an incredible game. Without Durant, team USA loses by 10 or more points.

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    IMO the difference maker was Barbosa. All he needed to do was make open shots and play off the pick and roll. He couldn't even do that.

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    The difference was that Team USA had the best player (Durant) and he played an incredible game. Without Durant, team USA loses by 10 or more points.
    I would agree with that last sentence, without hesitation. 100%. This is also something that cannot be ignored, to USA's credit: USA FTs 18-23, Brazil FTs 4-8. The more agressive team offensively won the game. Taking so many 3-point shots (27) tends to limit your opportunities to draw a foul.

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    IMO the difference maker was Barbosa. All he needed to do was make open shots and play off the pick and roll. He couldn't even do that.
    He definitely sucked real bad. No doubt about that.

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    IMO the difference maker was Barbosa. All he needed to do was make open shots and play off the pick and roll. He couldn't even do that.
    to be fair, Barbosa was making crazy shots in the 1st half. IMO he played a decent game.

    But he is nothing more than a good role player. He will never lead his team to victory. He lacks the killer instinct and cold blood.

    Brazil should avoid trying to ride on Barbosa's back, because the only destination they will reach is failure. IMO they need to feed Splitter the ball and pray Varejao gets healthy.

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    Actually Barbosa has all star level talent, he's just re ed.

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    Kevin Durant scored 27 points and Chauncey Billups added 15 for the Americans (3-0), who essentially clinched Group B with the victory. But this was further proof that a world le won't come easily for this young U.S. team — if it comes at all.

    After the Americans trailed most of the first 2½ quarters, Lamar Odom's dunk with 7:14 left put them ahead 64-62. But they couldn't build on the lead during a tense final few minutes, and Brazil had two chances to send the game to overtime.

    Following a miss by Billups, Brazil got the ball and Marcelo Huertas was fouled on a drive to the basket with 3.5 seconds remaining. He missed the first free throw and then the second intentionally, tracking it down in the corner and firing it underneath to Barbosa, who put up a shot over Kevin Love, only to have it bounce off the back and front of the rim.

    Barbosa finished with 14 points after a strong start for Brazil (2-1). Marcus Vinicius scored 16, and Tiago Splitter had 13 while battling foul trouble in the second half.

    With NBA big men Nene, Anderson Varejao and Splitter, Brazil was considered one of the teams with enough size to topple the undersized Americans. Nene had to pull out with an injury and Varejao sat out again while continuing to rest a sprained right ankle, so the Brazilians turned to a speed game to lead for much of the game.

    They just couldn't finish the upset, leaving the Americans needing only a victory over Iran or Tunisia, the bottom two teams in Group B, or another Brazil loss to earn the top seed from the group and three full days off before meeting the No. 4 seed from Group A on Sept. 6.

    The Americans have plenty to work on before worrying about that, after needing a huge night from Durant and 31 minutes from Billups, the old man of the team at 33, to pull this one out.

    The U.S. team has none of its 2008 Olympic gold medalists, and nowhere was it more apparent than in the matchup with Barbosa. When the teams last met, in their 2007 Olympic qualifier, Barbosa entered as the tournament's leading scorer before Kobe Bryant led a defensive effort that held him to four points on 1-of-7 shooting in an easy U.S. win.

    There's no defenders like Bryant here, and Barbosa took advantage in the first quarter by making two 3-pointers and scoring eight points. Brazil made 12 of its first 16 shots in the period and its first four 3-pointers, streaks that were snapped when Barbosa was just short on a halfcourt heave at the buzzer, leaving them with a 28-22 lead.

    Brazil extended its lead to eight early in the second quarter and was still up seven midway through the period, but with Splitter on the bench with two fouls, and Barbosa and Alex Garcia joining him, the Americans cut it to one a couple of times.

    Splitter's dunk sent the Brazilians to the half with a 46-43 advantage.

    The Americans finally grabbed the lead midway through the third, extending it to 61-55 after consecutive baskets by Durant. Barbosa scored the final four points of the period, though, and pulled Brazil within two heading to the fourth.

    The crowd grew solidly behind the underdogs, cheering loudly for Brazil baskets and booing loudly when a small "U-S-A!" chant broke out in the fourth.

    Brazil is coached by Ruben Magnano, who guided Argentina to victories over the U.S. in the 2002 worlds and 2004 Olympics, when the Argentines won gold. He nearly authored another upset.

    U.S. coach Mike Krzyzewski used his reserves liberally in the first two games, but gave much longer runs to the starters Monday after the backups were ineffective during their first stints.

    Durant flourished with the extra workload, making four 3-pointers.

    The Americans had been pushed at times in their victories over Croatia and Slovenia, but hadn't had to work after halftime. But this tournament isn't expected to be easy for a young U.S. team that lacks the big-game experience of its Olympic predecessors.

    And Monday's game proved it won't be.

    http://www.ajc.com/sports/us-survive...ds-602779.html

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    Actually Barbosa has all star level talent, he's just re ed.
    the same can be said about Lamar Odom.

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    Is Brazil like the new Spain?

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    to be fair, Barbosa was making crazy shots in the 1st half. IMO he played a decent game.
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    5-18 is not a decent game, not when scoring is the only thing you can do to help your team.

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    I liked what I saw from Splitter. Intelligent, quick Big with good hands and nice court vision. We'll have to see how well he will be able to defend NBA bigs, though.

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    fyi, splitter is a top 10 center (in this tournament) for points, rebounds, assists, steals, FG%, FT% (not counting yi jianlian as a center - please, the guy is a SF)

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    5-18 is not a decent game, not when scoring is the only thing you can do to help your team.
    Yeah, Barbosa will always be a stupid player.

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    Splitter really reminds me of that Robin Lopez guy. Actually he might be a better Robin Lopez already.

    He needs to work on his toughness tough

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    Splitter really reminds me of that Robin Lopez guy. Actually he might be a better Robin Lopez already.

    He needs to work on his toughness tough
    Splitter's fundamentals and basketball IQ is way higher, Lopez's physical talents are way better. If Splitter has Lopez's athleticism he'd be a sure thing all star. In the end though they're around the same quality player.

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    Splitter really reminds me of that Robin Lopez guy. Actually he might be a better Robin Lopez already.

    He needs to work on his toughness tough
    He doesn't have the size to block shots like Lopez. I think he will be a bit more mobile, too, like a white Francisco Elson (lol)

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    Very nice game. Tiago will help the Spurs a lot.

    Knowing our battles against Phoenix I knew Leandro would choke in the end. No surprise

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    Splitter's fundamentals and basketball IQ is way higher, Lopez's physical talents are way better. If Splitter has Lopez's athleticism he'd be a sure thing all star. In the end though they're around the same quality player.
    good point. that is what I meant he needs to work on his athleticism and toughness.

    He is way better passer than Robin already though

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    He is way better passer than Robin already though
    Well yeah, and his touch around the rim is way better. Lopez has this goofy ass line drive hook shot that's surprisingly effective but it's not a fundamentally good shot at all.

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    Rofl @ Max Player Rudy Gay getting 1 point.
    What about Tyson Chandler and his rebound. Impressive that the Mavs were able to use Dampier's huge expiring contract to land such a supremely talented rebounder.

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    good point. that is what I meant he needs to work on his athleticism and toughness.

    He is way better passer than Robin already though
    Those are two areas that are difficult to improve. Toughness, maybe but athleticism, not so much.

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    Those are two areas that are difficult to improve. Toughness, maybe but athleticism, not so much.
    true. But he needs to get tough like Scola. He seemed a little weak in the paint.

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    Is Brazil like the new Spain?
    Brazil was settled by the Portuguese, not Spain.

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