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    I'm not sure what you think Al Jefferson is going to 'become' by playing for the Jazz.
    My guess is they hope his knee gets healthy and he keeps his weight under control. If that happens, he might actually be capable of playing on both sides of the court, and he might be athletic enough to be a p/r threat. If they end up getting 2010 Jefferson though, they're gonna hate him.

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    Jefferson's lateral quickness is non-existent and he's an abysmal post defender with a very low defensive IQ.
    Irregardless...

    However bad you thought Boozer was at defense Jefferson is going to be overall worse.
    Impossible.

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    My guess is they hope his knee gets healthy and he keeps his weight under control. If that happens, he might actually be capable of playing on both sides of the court, and he might be athletic enough to be a p/r threat. If they end up getting 2010 Jefferson though, they're gonna hate him.
    The thing about his weight. Is last season he came in 30 pounds lighter. But that wasn't normal because he was just coming off the injury. So he got back to his normal weight and has been working out all summer

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    And the whole pick and roll part of our offense is way overrstated we actually run the pick and roll less then more then half the teams in the leauge statistically

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    Playing 76 games coming off acl surgery is a major accomplishment. But averging 19/10 off one is crazy.
    Empty statistics and horrid defense that contributed to one of the worst records in the NBA. What an accomplishment.

    And how ever bad I thought Boozer was as a defender? YOu mean the guy who could never block a shot? Always went for the rebound instead of defending? Got beat by every simple spin?
    Jefferson is seriously one of the worst team defenders in the NBA. You actually believe he's a better defender than Booze? Yeah he doesn't block shots but he's decent as a position defender. He doesn't usually blow simple rotations like Jefferson routinely does.
    And actually Jefferson is very effective in pick and rolls.

    Since January 4th he hasn't missed a shot rolling to the basket off a pick and roll. And is actually more accurate rolling to the basket then Boozer. And gets to the line more
    Jefferson's jumper is nowhere near as consistent as Boozer's and that makes the pick and roll infinitely easier to defend for obvious reasons. Jefferson will get some good looks from Deron naturally but he's not replacing Boozer there and especially not replacing Booze's ability to work the high-post.

    Oh and good luck playing Jefferson/Millsap on the floor together

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    Yeah he doesn't block shots but he's decent as a position defender. He doesn't usually blow simple rotations like Jefferson routinely does.
    No he's not. He gets blown by or shot over all the time. And ignored rotations as much or more than any player the league.


    Jefferson's jumper is nowhere near as consistent as Boozer's and that makes the pick and roll infinitely easier to defend for obvious reasons.
    The pick and pop. As a pick and role player he's probably gonna be better. In addition, he opens up a whole chapter of our playbook that was lost when Malone left our low block.

    Oh and good luck playing Jefferson/Millsap on the floor together
    I'd sure as rather pair Al Jeff with Millsap than I would undersized Boozer with undersized Millsap. And speaking of the pick and pop, Millsap's jumper is so under-rated it isn't even funny. Dude drains those 15-18 footers.

    I agree though that we lose something in the iso high post. And it remains to be seen whether or not Jeff can effectively pass out of the double team. That's a key for our low post sets. We'll see.

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    Empty statistics and horrid defense that contributed to one of the worst records in the NBA. What an accomplishment.



    Jefferson is seriously one of the worst team defenders in the NBA. You actually believe he's a better defender than Booze? Yeah he doesn't block shots but he's decent as a position defender. He doesn't usually blow simple rotations like Jefferson routinely does.


    Jefferson's jumper is nowhere near as consistent as Boozer's and that makes the pick and roll infinitely easier to defend for obvious reasons. Jefferson will get some good looks from Deron naturally but he's not replacing Boozer there and especially not replacing Booze's ability to work the high-post.

    Oh and good luck playing Jefferson/Millsap on the floor together
    Except for the fact that Minny would have had a horrible record anywhere.

    And Boozer is seriously one of the worst defneders in the Nba you think he's better then Jefferson

    And how do you know about Jefferson's high post abilities if he only tries to catch it in the low post.

    And Jefferson shot mostly jumpshots last season coming off the injury and he does have a consistant mid range jumpshot though not as good as Boozer. But the difference between their post games far exceeds the difference between their jumpshots. Like I said with Jefferson we get to run plays like this that we weren't able to play with Boozer.


    And his chances of improving his mid range game throughout the season are much better then Boozer trying to improve his Post game.

    Remember the left side clear-out; that play started with Stock passing the ball to Karl on the low left block, John running a hard cut past Karl and looping past 2 screens all the way around to the top of the key. Meanwhile Horny starts on the opposite 45 and cuts off a BRuss screen on the right elbow and cuts hard down the lane, while Tag moves up to the high post in the right block and sets a screen for BRuss, who then goes to the low right side and sets a second pick for Stock while he runs his curl and then BRuss flares to the right 45 extended. That all took about 5 seconds, and it all happened only if Karl didn't pass to Stock on the give and go on Stock's first cut past him in the post. Karl would start to back his man down, but because everyone else was in motion the defence couldn't gamble and double team Karl. If they did we moved the ball and found Horny streaking down the lane, or Stock at the top of the circle, or BRuss on the elbow, or Tag open on the right block... or several combinations of open players on the one play.

    And actually Boozer and Millsap never had the abilty to work on the floor together. Because Boozer and Millsap tried to do the exact same thing. So that's why it was either Memo - Millsap or Memo-Booze. We were least productive with Boozer and Millsap on the floor

    Jefferson and Millsap are more compatible because Jefferson can post up down low which makes it easier for Milly to get easy looks. Whiles Jefferson can draw a double team unlike Booze

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    Well since we're wating for him to respond how about some entertainment


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    No he's not. He gets blown by or shot over all the time. And ignored rotations as much or more than any player the league.
    So you're in for a rude awakening when you finally actually watch Al Jefferson attempt to play defense for your team.

    I know Jazz fan hates Boozer like a cheating ex-girl right now so I understand but come on.

    The pick and pop. As a pick and role player he's probably gonna be better. In addition, he opens up a whole chapter of our playbook that was lost when Malone left our low block.
    The threat of a pick and pop is what makes the classic p/r dangerous. You could do that with Boozer, not really with Jefferson unless the defense is giving him a direct line to the basket. In a playoff situation..good luck with that.

    I'd sure as rather pair Al Jeff with Millsap than I would undersized Boozer with undersized Millsap. And speaking of the pick and pop, Millsap's jumper is so under-rated it isn't even funny. Dude drains those 15-18 footers.
    Jefferson is sort of undersized as well and Millsap needs to be crashing the boards not shooting jumpers but really, I hope it works out for you guys so you don't lose Deron.

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    Except that Jefferson has an inch on Boozer

    Btw I responded to your post.

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    Except that Jefferson has an inch on Boozer
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    Yet shoots about 5% lower from the field for his career. Sad.

    Btw Jefferson does not get to the line more than Boozer like you claimed.

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    Yet shoots about 5% lower from the field for his career. Sad.
    And he faced 80% more double teams/triple teams and plays with a much worse coach and a much worse point guard

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    I hope it works out for you guys so you don't lose Deron.
    Thanks, but like I said, if he leaves I bet it's not for DAL. He'll go to LA. That franchise loves him and he could. Book it (if he leaves).

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    We'll throw you Odom and Blake's pale corpse as a parting gift.

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    We'll throw you Odom and Blake's pale corpse as a parting gift.
    Throw in Khloe and it's a deal.

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    =D

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    That franchise loves him
    As opposed to the other 29 teams who hate great basketball players.

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    Utah's defense will be worse this year. It's going to be tough for them.

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    Utah's defense will be worse this year. It's going to be tough for them.
    Wait why would our defense be worse by replacing Matthews with Bell a proven defender and replacing Korver with Hayward who was a good defender in college? And we got rid of our worst defender in Boozer. And Ak-47 is healthy.

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