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  1. #101
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    Losing Amare will come back to bite them. I see them as having enough talent to contend for the 6th, 7th or 8th seed in the 2011 playoffs, but it's also possible they don't make the playoffs at all.
    SFs like Amare are a dime-a-dozen.

    Hedo will affect outcome equal or better than Amare with a lot less headache & drama. He's white (after a fashion), a straight arrow and soldiers like a MF'er when he's content, and here he'll be content. The local gentry & Media will fawn all over him. It's a match made in heaven.

    Getting Amare to walk away was a stroke of luck. Getting Hedo to cross paths on the way back in was a stroke of genius.

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    Hedo Turkoglu will throw up bricks and rack up DNPs from partying too hard the night before.

  3. #103
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    Hedo Turkoglu will throw up bricks and rack up DNPs from partying too hard the night before.
    No, Red, yer wrong. He'll be a bonafide sage in Phoenix. He'll make Nash better. Vice versa, yes, but, he'll increase Nash's effectiveness.

  4. #104
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    Hedo's best season was 2007-2008. He has only gotten worse since then and he is already 31.

    Culburn, why do you think he will benefit the Suns more than Amar'e? The man has clearly lost motivation to play once he signed that contract and has been slacking off.

  5. #105
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    More or less just a hunch. The Suns rarely make mistakes on special case acquisitions. Their commitment to Nash is unconditional. He runs it (top to bottom). They would not have brought Hedo in if they hadn't had a sit with him & Nash and got assurances that made them feel confident in his mind & body.

    Amare brings nothing to the Phoenix table. And they realized that two years ago and just strung him along, let him goose the gate, sell his wampum, praying and waiting for his departure.

    They're not eyeballing LOB. They're satisfied to compete on the edges, sniping, guerilla warfare style. If somehow they can catch somebody nappin', or, down with a sickness they'll pounce, bark their heads off and try for something.

    There is no pressure here for Hedo. It will be a little slice of heaven for him.

  6. #106
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    I do not know how Hedo Turkoglu would ever bring more to the table than Amar'e. If the Suns' goal is getting to the Finals, they certainly will not have a better chance of beating the Lakers with Hedo than they did with Amar'e. If they are satisfied with only getting to the second round, as you claim, then I don't even think Hedo will help with that.

    Hedo is old and unmotivated. Even if he does return to 07-08 form, he still won't be as good as Amar'e was for the Suns. Hedo did absolutely nothing last season while Amar'e stepped up his game for the most part.

    To be honest, I thought this Turkoglu bandwagon came and went after the 09 Finals.

  7. #107
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    Hedo is old, but, he'll fit into Nash's patterns.

    Amare was not worth the max, and Sarver bluffed him out of town by agreeing to the money, but, the not the years and by not guaranteeing all the money. Media helped Sarver here keep that on the qt from going National. I'm just shocked that Amare didn't get the extra year from NY when they sent that gigantic trade exception over. I don't understand what Amare gained out of that decision...nothing, but I guess goodwill in AZ.

    I just feel Hedo is home now, for only the second time, the first being in Sacramento. Nash is the defacto leader, but, Hedo will lead as well, with Nash's urging and blessing.

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