Boise State vs Virginia Tech

[CubanSucks]

scheduling

Because Auburn had a weaker schedule than OU and USC in 04? Or Texas in 08 who even beat OU while in the same conference?

[DesignatedT]

playoffs

[Blake]

it might (mistakenly) happen this yearIts not hard to see vast talent gap between BSU and the likes of Florida and Texas, the only reason BSU has beaten teams like Oklahoma, TCU, and Va Tech, is that none of those teams had a good passing QB, and their only offensive strategy was to try and run over and out-athlete their opponents, this was a significant weaknesses that BSU preyed on, and still it took mistakes and luck for BSU to BARELY win those games.

but BSU won.

if you can't see that BSU has no chance to beat the true elites then you just aren't watching College football real close

then move BSU down to FCS where they apparently belong.

when you consider how many more teams there are in college, and how many more games there are that people care about, it should be obvious that college football has the much more successful regular season, the NFL gets the nation to watch a few big games every week involving the top teams, college football gets lots of people to watch lots and lots of games involving lots of irrelevant teams.

college football regular season will definitely not suffer with the implentation of a playoff system

with a playoff system, depending on how many teams get in, regular season viewership would drop substantially.

proof?

also, with a playoff, teams like Florida and Texas, actually all the AQ teams would have even less incentive to schedule quality OoC opponents, cause they're in with 0 or 1 loss, no matter how easy their schedule, no need to impress anyone or get beat up before the playoffs

Teams have little to no incentive to schedule OoC now unless there is a big pay day or a chance at big exposure.

you still get your champion, your compe ion, the BCS finds the 1 and 2 teamss if you're team was #3 you lost, you came up short, you failed.

And if three teams come up undefeated, team #3 didn't fail. They got screwed. The system failed them.

I shed no tears for any of the teams you mentioned, none of them were the best team in college football, they all controlled their own destiny.

Auburn went undefeated in the SEC in 04?. The voters controlled their destiny, dumbass.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

scheduling

When you have a standing open invitation to play anybody anywhere, as Boise St. has done, this scheduling argument is bull .

Why anyone who isn't making direct money off it defends this crackerjack BCS system is utterly beyond me.

[vander]

When you have a standing open invitation to play anybody anywhere, as Boise St. has done, this scheduling argument is bull .

they just rejected a 2 for 1 with Nebraska because $750,000 wasn't enough, wanted a million.

no major programs want to play on that BS blue field, BSU should have jumped at that offer

Why anyone who isn't making direct money off it defends this crackerjack BCS system is utterly beyond me.

if we ever do get a playoffs, after a few years of it, you'll start to see just how right I was, you'll begin to long for the days of the BCS. this is all just a "grass is greener" illusion you all are falling for

[chunticakes]

playoffs?

playoffs?!

[Brutalis]

I haven't read this entire thread but..

No block in the back called? They reviewed that TD pass by Boise and counted it when it shouldn't have been... not to say they wouldn't have scored anyway.

VT played poorly and didn't benefit from the refs either.

Boise gets Ole Miss next year.

[Blake]

if we ever do get a playoffs, after a few years of it, you'll start to see just how right I was, you'll begin to long for the days of the BCS. this is all just a "grass is greener" illusion you all are falling for

[vander]

Game got a 6.8 rating, which is apparently pretty good

if there were a playoffs in college football, it would have gotten a 5.2, maybe worse

[CubanSucks]

Game got a 6.8 rating, which is apparently pretty good

if there were a playoffs in college football, it would have gotten a 5.2, maybe worse

First of all, you don't know that. Second, so what? We already know the BCS generates more money, that's why the assholes in charge don't want it to change. In the end it's not about ratings and popularity of the game, which will ALWAYS be strong, it's about the integrity of the game.

[Blake]

Game got a 6.8 rating, which is apparently pretty good

if there were a playoffs in college football, it would have gotten a 5.2, maybe worse

maybe better than a 6.8

[vander]

First of all, you don't know that. Second, so what? We already know the BCS generates more money, that's why the assholes in charge don't want it to change. In the end it's not about ratings and popularity of the game, which will ALWAYS be strong, it's about the integrity of the game.

it generates more money because of it's lack of integrity? because it puts out a lesser product?

don't know about that, I think people would watch less not more if they really thought the BCS was selling out and compromising the integrity, the compe ion, of the game.

so you think college football fans are tools?

the BCS gets it right, you're fooling yourself if you think anything isn't decided on the feild just because of the BCS. it's all decided on the field, and the BCS does a damn good job of comparing teams of vastly different pedigrees and levels of compe ion.

it's like if the NFL had to crown a champion that included the CFL and Arena league and whatever other semi-pro leagues are out there, how could you do that based on record alone?

[vander]

maybe better than a 6.8

why would more people watch when it's post-season implications are much less, perhaps none. it would mean nothing to Va Tech, and depending on the playoff setup could even mean nothing to BSU. how does that translate into more viewer interest?

and why would more people watch if BSU was just some team that lost playoff games in 06 and 09.

it's amazing that you can't see ANY of the unintended consequences of a Playoff, all you can see is some occasional 3rd undefeated team getting a chance to play for the le, or some team that blew a game in the regular season getting a second chance.

Schedule quality opponents
Beat them all, be great every week of the season
Go to the Championship Game
No excuses

[Blake]

why would more people watch when it's post-season implications are much less, perhaps none. it would mean nothing to Va Tech, and depending on the playoff setup could even mean nothing to BSU. how does that translate into more viewer interest?

and why would more people watch if BSU was just some team that lost playoff games in 06 and 09.

it's amazing that you can't see ANY of the unintended consequences of a Playoff, all you can see is some occasional 3rd undefeated team getting a chance to play for the le, or some team that blew a game in the regular season getting a second chance.

Schedule quality opponents
Beat them all, be great every week of the season
Go to the Championship Game
No excuses

one loss, Boise St is done. Nobody watches them rest of season.

Playoffs, one loss, Boise St still alive, people watch, they win conference, get at large playoff birth, people watch the playoff game.

It's amazing that there are still a few that just don't get it.

[vander]

one loss, Boise St is done. Nobody watches them rest of season.

Playoffs, one loss, Boise St still alive, people watch, they win conference, get at large playoff birth, people watch the playoff game.

It's amazing that there are still a few that just don't get it.

the casual fans, the viewers that drive the ratings aren't going to watch a one-loss BSU team play NMSU or Idaho or whoever anyways. the casual fans will watch the other games that week that have immediate BCS bowl implications, there are usually plenty of them.

you're not seriously arguing that the networks would make MORE money with a playoff system are you? you think ESPN, Fox, CBS, the NCAA, and the BCS don't know what they're doing? even most of the people wanting a playoff recognize that the current system is more profitable, because more people watch every week, because there are many games that matter, that will have an immediate impact on the postseason landscape, Every. Week.

[CubanSucks]

it generates more money because of it's lack of integrity? because it puts out a lesser product?

I never said that. I was admitting the BCS MAY generate more money and for the reasons you're saying. Still can't see how a playoff wouldn't do just as well in the ratings. The thought of all these juggernauts having to play each other is awesome. And personally I think we could still keep the smaller bowl games as like an NIT type thing just without the tournament. That's what they practically are already

don't know about that, I think people would watch less not more if they really thought the BCS was selling out and compromising the integrity, the compe ion, of the game.

so you think college football fans are tools?

um...yeah. Maybe not tools but they're gonna watch whatever is on tv. People who hate the BCS, like me, still watch because it's college football and I still want my team to beat the other

[Blake]

the casual fans, the viewers that drive the ratings aren't going to watch a one-loss BSU team play NMSU or Idaho or whoever anyways.

so at the least, there's no difference there.

the casual fans will watch the other games that week that have immediate BCS bowl implications, there are usually plenty of them.

more fans will watch games with playoff implications, imo.

you're not seriously arguing that the networks would make MORE money with a playoff system are you? you think ESPN, Fox, CBS, the NCAA, and the BCS don't know what they're doing?

I'm sure they can make just as much if not more with a playoff system in place.

This is more about college presidents being against a playoff system than the networks.

even most of the people wanting a playoff recognize that the current system is more profitable, because more people watch every week, because there are many games that matter, that will have an immediate impact on the postseason landscape, Every. Week.

I never hear anyone advocating a playoff system say such a thing.

The only people that say that are the BCS honks.