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  1. #51
    TwoHandJam
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    Just read over Larry's salary cap stuff again and what the Spurs are doing looks legit as far as the bonus. Quite ingenious actually.

    The only part I'm wondering about is that I've heard the Spurs had placed some other performance incentives in there as further poison pills. Is this true? If it is, I'm concerned about this passage:

    Incentives are included in team salary if they are "likely to be achieved." They do not count if they are not likely to be achieved. (Except in the first year of the contract, where the salary, likely bonuses and unlikely bonuses must all fit within the salary cap or exception.) The league office determines what is likely and what is not. Their general guideline is whether the criteria was achieved in the previous year. For example, if a player had seven assists per game the previous season, then an incentive based on seven assists per game would probably be classified as "likely to be achieved," but an incentive based on eight assists per game would probably be classified as "not likely to be achieved."
    I heard something about incentives like "making the playoffs" and such. Wouldn't this be considered "not likely to be achieved" for the Clippers?

  2. #52
    Aggie Hoopsfan
    Guest
    TwoHand,

    Incentives pertain to statistics and award a player financial bonuses.

    In the case of the clause for Elton and LA and the playoffs, that is more of unique way of structuring a player opt-out clause.

    AHF

  3. #53
    TwoHandJam
    Guest
    Can you give me more info on this "opt out clause" that's supposedly in there AHF?

  4. #54
    Aggie Hoopsfan
    Guest
    I wish we knew more TwoHand...

    AHF

  5. #55
    timvp
    Guest
    There is some sort of opt-out clause and some other stuff in there besides the front-loading to deter Sterling from matching it from what I was told. When I told you guys (in chat) about this yesterday, I didn't know the specifics and unfortunately I still don't.

    I hope to get some info late tonight about everything that's happening last minute. If I do, of course I'll share.

    In the meantime, the National League is up 6-3.

    2

    --Kori

  6. #56
    TwoHandJam
    Guest
    Thanks Kori. You rock.

  7. #57
    Whottt
    Guest
    I don't see why we would ditch Malik..you start all 3..yeah you lose something on offense...but man you have a beastly interior defense..you will see some ball getting swatted..I think all 3 of them could work..they all have pretty decent jumpers..none of them are really 3 shooters, Duncan would probably be the closest.. but you can cirumvent that a little..

    I don't see why anyone has to be moved...as far as getting 3 pt shooters...if you have that kind of frontline 3 shooters are going to be paying us to come here when they want to have a big year for contract purposes...

  8. #58
    ALSPURS
    Guest
    I really do not see even if we heavy load the rfont of his contract why Sterling will not match.

    Brand is there best player...I can not see them letting him go.

    With all that said...I wish we could get the guy.

  9. #59
    KoriEllis
    Guest
    Hi ALSPURS, welcome.

    Sterling doesn't care if he's the best player. He doesn't care about winning. And Sterling won't be happy about s ing out that much cash. But it's still a long shot.

    Keep your fingers crossed.

  10. #60
    gunawanspurs
    Guest
    Man, Brand as a Spur would be a GODSEND for us, a hint that GOD the almighty wouldn't allow a jackass team like the fLakers get another ring while a more righteous, classy, deserving team like our are ready to form a dynasty of its own right now !

  11. #61
    ALSPURS
    Guest
    I hope so......

    Thanks for the welcome....

  12. #62
    Adrienne18
    Guest
    I'm torn between not wanting yall to get Brand because of compe ion, and dying for yall to get brand so the Spurs can whoop up on the Lakers next year...hmmm...:p

  13. #63
    exstatic
    Guest
    Hey ALSPURS - Sterling cares nothing about winning. He only wants to keep his payroll as small as possible to turn a profit by taking his share of the TV revenues, while fielding an inferior product. He has several other good young big men "in the pipe": Chris Wilcox, Melvin Ely, and Chris Kaman. They make LOT less than our offer to Brand would be...

  14. #64
    scott
    Guest
    I think "Adrienne" is a closet Spurs fan.

  15. #65
    Adrienne18
    Guest
    I do like the Spurs, but the Mavs are my team...if I didn't like the Spurs at all, would I be here? I think not.

  16. #66
    scott
    Guest
    You may be a pretty face, Adrienne, but that alone won't cut it around here.

    We all thrive upon constant conflict- you aren't being very fun!

  17. #67
    Adrienne18
    Guest
    Okay, you want me to pretend like I hate the Spurs? Will that make you happy?

  18. #68
    scott
    Guest
    The rolling eyes is a start.

  19. #69
    Adrienne18
    Guest
    haha...sorry, it's too hard to pretend like I hate the Spurs...or for me to be mean to you...notice even with the rolling eyes, I had to add a smiley face?

  20. #70
    scott
    Guest
    hmmm... we'll have to work with you.

  21. #71
    Dunkel Weizen
    Guest
    One good incentive to put in would be an opt-out clause after 5 years if he is the team's leading scorer. That would be considered "likely to be achieved" in LA, but not SA.

    That brings up a question: if the opt-out incentive is unlikely to be achieved in SA but likely to be achieved in LA, does that change the number of years over which the bonus must be prorated for the purposes of calculating player salary?

    How would this be handled? Would LA have a contract it could not match, giving the Spurs a brilliant victory by exploiting a loophole, or would they be allowed to "match" a contract with an adjusted bonus that could be prorated over 5 years instead of 6?

  22. #72
    Shaq H8ter
    Guest
    So am I right in guessing that this isn't going to happen since Miami is throming 82+ Million at him!?

    espn.go.com/nba/news/2003/0716/1581398.html


  23. #73
    bigzak25
    Guest
    correctamundo. ^^^^^^^^

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