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    The team defense was broken last season because of the lack of mobility to cut off the pick and roll. It wasn't the fault of the point guards. They led them to the bigs like they were supposed to, it just so happened the big was a step slow, or the bigs just weren't big enough.
    And adding Splitter alone will not change that much at all.

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    Spurs fans, has History2B said his "Community Service" speech? As you all might know, History2B is a troll. He is a laker fan troll from the Spurs ESPN messageboard. He makes it his job to "put spurs fans in their place." He will use the word "delusional" and "irrelevant" to explain Spurs fans and their team. He wants attention and will eventually get bored if he doesnt get it. His life revolves around spurs fans and their thoughts and opinions about basketball. His hate for the Spurs organization and their fans is so tremendous, it's hard for him to talk civilly and not be such a troll. He is broken. Ignore him just like the other trolls.

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    Sad that for every decent Laker fan we come across at ST, another half dozen trolls come along to balance things out.

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    I don't buy it. I think the spurs will contend for the le this year. No Question. Other teams can prove me wrong on the court.

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    I disregarded the 2b part...INTENTIONALLY. Because the only history to be made is, again, a Bean led team will be the 1st PJax team to not get a 3peat. Book that!
    Sugarcoat it all you want, why is it that Bean himself says it? Kobe said his knee was "extremely, extremely painful during the NBA Finals." Said he feels better, but is at about "60%" tonight."
    That's not made up drivel, that's reality coming from Bean himself.
    Wrong. You said I was "aptly named." My name is not "history," it is "history-2-b."

    So when you say I am "aptly" named you can't "intentionally" leave out parts of my name. Unless you want to be an illogical moron of course.

    Kobe is probably around 60% right now. And? How are you claiming this is pertinent? Lol. I said the Lakers won the championship with his knee hurting and you just said Kobe said his knee is less painful than it was in June, so your point is???

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    I don't buy it. I think the spurs will contend for the le this year. No Question. Other teams can prove me wrong on the court.


    And they will. Just like last season... and the season before.

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    Whatever the case, the Spurs are built to beat the Lakers. I have no doubt about that.
    BWAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA!!!!

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    Last season, the Spurs got swept by the Suns, the series could have gone both ways just as easily as it could have been a sweep. The Lakers would have lost to the Suns if it were not for Jason Richardson not knowing how to box out Ron Artest, same thing for the Thunder series and could have lost to the Celtics when the Celtics were up going into the 4th quarter. The lucky Los Angles Lakers and their y Laker fans were then able to celebrate the 2010 NBA championship.

    While I don't buy that the Spurs are necessarily contenders, statistical measures last season have shown that they are contenders. If anyone believes that the Lakers are championship contenders, one must admit that statistically, the Spurs are also one of the best in the NBA. One must also recognize that the NBA playoffs are all about matchups and sometimes good fortune and it is no wonder the Spurs lost to the Suns because we were not fast and quick enough and the Suns were hot from 3 the entire series.

    The Spurs were rated a 5.07 via the SRS, Simple Rating System, good for 4th in the NBA. The Lakers were a 4.78 via the SRS, good for 5th in the NBA. Both teams had injury concerns throughout the season, so injuries are just an excuse for the Lakers having a lower SRS than the Spurs. For a simpler translation to team records, the Lakers' 57-25 record in the 2009-2010 season would be 54-28 through the Pythagorean Wins formula. The Spurs' 50-32 record would be a 55-27 through that same formula because of point differential. Obviously, no one can argue against facts. So, lets move on.

    In the West, the Spurs were also the only team to be top 10 in both offensive (higher the better) and defensive (lower the better) ratings, with 110 and 104.5 respectively for offensive and defensive ratings. The Lakers were 108.8 and 103.7 for offensive and defensive ratings. The Spurs, via this ratings which were converted through points scored per 100 possessions and points against per 100 possessions have a higher point differential in 2010 than the Los Angeles Lakers.

    Although you can't argue about pace now, the Lakers are a 92.8 possessions per game team, which is 14th fastest in the league, compared to the Spurs, which were a 91.7, which is 20th in the league. Both teams have only a differential of about 1.1 possessions a game, so don't come complain about math here.

    Throughout draft and free agency, both the Spurs and Lakers made key additions to their lineups. The Spurs drafted James Anderson, big 12 player of the year and signed draft pick of 2007 best big man in Europe in Tiago Splitter. The Spurs also signed free agents, Gary Neal and Bobby Simmons, both excellent shooters from beyond that 3 point line.

    The Lakers have done a few things themselves too, signing Steve Blake and Matt Barnes, both good 3 point shooters themselves and drafted 2nd round picks, Devin Ebanks and Derrick Caracter.

    Now, if you want to call Devin Ebanks and Derrick Caracter, both 2nd rounders, mega-talented, it would be an absolute joke. While Ebanks was touted to be a late 1st round pick, while Caracter a 2nd rounder, both do not have the accolades that James Anderson has. The average 43rd pick in the NBA would have a 60% chance of being a non-contributer to an NBA team, the pick number of Ebanks. The average 58th pick, which is Derrick Caracter's pick position, has a 0% chance of not contributing to any NBA team, so Caracter, for now, is useless to any NBA team, absolutely useless at least . To sum it up using the rating system in 82games, the average 43rd pick, has a rating of 7.8 while the average 58th pick has a rating of 1.3, which is the worst out of the whole rating system, which is based on basic stats.

    Let's take a look at the average 20th pick, which has a 50% chance of contributing to the NBA and has a 10.2 rating, higher than both the 43rd and 58th pick combined. Enough said, the Spurs lone draft pick has a higher success rate than both the 43rd and 58th pick combined. Of course, you can't argue facts so kindly just get out of the Spurs forum if you can't come up with constructive criticism if you can't come up with facts to support your argument.
    LOL! The first series sweep in history that "could have gone either way." LMFAO! Delusion defined. And of course in typical moron fashion you make a claim with absolutely no foundation. Lakers would have lost to the Suns had Jason Richardson boxed out Artest. That game would have gone into overtime first of all. Second it was Game 5, not game 7. Way to go showing how unbelievably homeristic you are.

    The Suns sweep of the Spurs "could have gone either way" but the Lakers beating the Suns in 6 games would have been different if Richardson had boxed out Artest in game 5. Wow. Logical. Spurs fans should never wonder why they've been deemed the dumbest fan base in pro sports.

    Statistical measures mean jack . Obviously. This is why the lowly Phoenix Suns can sweep a team like the Spurs; They simply weren't contenders. Contenders are teams that can matchup with anyone and win a series. This is whay seperates them from the rest of the teams with holes that can't. Save the stat crap talk for internet stat happy fan boys who don't know the game of basketball and use stats as their non-thinking, uncritical crutch.

    I'm not concerned with Ebanks or Caracter the Lakers 12th and 13th men respectively. No team in the history of the NBA wins a championship based on the strength of 2 players that far buried in their rotation.

    What I do know is that the Lakers have the best assembled core in the league. Kobe-Pau-Bynum-Artest-Odom-Fisher is the best core that works together and wins. It is a proven fact. Everything else that is added onto this core is strictly complimentary. Collegiate "accolades" don't mean in the NBA either. It's about filling a role within a system. From what I've seen from both Laker rookies, I see that as a remote possibility from both although I couldn't care less if that transpires this season or next or at all because, again, neither will tip the championship scales.

    I do believe Splitter and Anderson can make positive contributions to the Spurs this season offensively. Defensively I have my serious doubts. But even more importantly is that the Spurs need their contributions a of a lot more than the Lakers need their rookies. I like our chances to be successful regardless.

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    That looks like me, Shao and Truth and that steed looks like what used to be Tim Duncan's legacy.

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    Sad that for every decent Laker fan we come across at ST, another half dozen trolls come along to balance things out.
    They will be out in droves once the Spurs end the career of the great phil jackson!

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    Laker troll.

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    Laker trolls... in October?

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    I want Spurs fans to know in October that you are not contenders.

    Some here seem to recognize this fact while others stubbornly want to fight about it. No problem we can do whatever it takes.

    But I can assure you all that I'll be here all season to talk about the Spurs and I have strong feeling that a lot of the d bags that are name calling will not be here.

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    Laker trolls... in October?
    That's the life of certain laker trolls.

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    i enjoy seeing the hate the Spurs have ignited in LA fans. keep it coming, guys. and, our forum is your Forum, since you don't have one anymore after that ass assault back in '99.

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    i enjoy seeing the hate the Spurs have ignited in LA fans. keep it coming, guys. and, our forum is your Forum, since you don't have one anymore after that ass assault back in '99.
    Hate? lol.

    Talking about the game realistically is not hate. No one here should misinterpret my tone for being anything but matter of fact.

    In the grand scheme of things, as a Laker fan spanning several decades, 1999 means absolutely nothing to me, lol. One shortened lockout season? lol.

    Count them...



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    Hate? lol.

    Talking about the game realistically is not hate. No one here should misinterpret my tone for being anything but matter of fact.

    In the grand scheme of things, as a Laker fan spanning several decades, 1999 means absolutely nothing to me, lol. One shortened lockout season? lol.

    Count them...


    it could've been 18, though. instead we conquered your ass.

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    it could've been 18, though. instead we conquered your ass.
    Spurs did beat the Lakers during a couple of down years.

    During the Phil-Kobe years, our record in the playoffs versus Pop-Tim is 4-1. And you can take that to the bank.

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    I want Spurs fans to know in October that you are not contenders.

    Some here seem to recognize this fact while others stubbornly want to fight about it. No problem we can do whatever it takes.

    But I can assure you all that I'll be here all season to talk about the Spurs and I have strong feeling that a lot of the d bags that are name calling will not be here.
    how the do you know if you haven't been here in this forum the whole season, you just singed up

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    I don't buy it. I think the spurs will contend for the le this year. No Question. Other teams can prove me wrong on the court.
    What don't you buy?

    You don't buy the fact that teams will be going at Tony and George? If you were going up against a team with little to no defense in the back court positions, would you attack them there too?

    If you knew there was ''Tapioca'' Splitter and an aging Duncan behind these guards with no defense, would that discourage you from attacking?

    At some point, you have to look reality in the eyes and say 'they are who we thought they were' -- NOT 'they are who we wish they could be'.

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    That looks like me, Shao and Truth and that steed looks like what used to be Tim Duncan's legacy.
    LOL



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    Wrong. You said I was "aptly named." My name is not "history," it is "history-2-b."

    So when you say I am "aptly" named you can't "intentionally" leave out parts of my name. Unless you want to be an illogical moron of course.

    Kobe is probably around 60% right now. And? How are you claiming this is pertinent? Lol. I said the Lakers won the championship with his knee hurting and you just said Kobe said his knee is less painful than it was in June, so your point is???
    I can intentionally do anything I want. I can choose to say that part of your poster name is apt. I can DISREGARD everything else if I choose to. Why not? You do it to Spurs fan. You DISREGARD the Spurs chances, that's fine. You're a LAL wannabe troll. It's par for the course. Just remember, the forum says, Spurstalk. If you're going to come in here, prepare for a beatdown. I know more about the LAL than most LAL fans and while I respect them to be a good team, you won't see me genuflect. Just because the LAL is higher ranking, for the moment, it doesn't make them SUPERIOR. 2 real key guys with knee issues, 1 cog guy with back issues, a turnstile for a starting PG, and a possible lame duck coach. Sounds like a winning situation to me...NOPE.

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    Just because the LAL is higher ranking, for the moment, it doesn't make them SUPERIOR. 2 real key guys with knee issues, 1 cog guy with back issues, a turnstile for a starting PG, and a possible lame duck coach. Sounds like a winning situation to me...NOPE.

    You are proving to know less and less about the game of basketball with each and every post I've seen from you.

    For the past two seasons the Lakers have won the championship.

    During those seasons, the Lakers had 2 real key guys with knee issues, 1 cog guy with back issues, a "turnstile" for a starting PG, and Phil Jackson (lame duck coach in your words).

    Lesson of the day for you.

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