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  1. #51
    scott
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    You think the Spurs will have enough clout to sign Rasho and Brand?
    Assuming a cap of $42.5 million, the answer is yes.

  2. #52
    Ghost Writer
    Guest
    I can read the numbers being thrown around, Emmy. I just don't think the Spurs will sign Nesterovic and then go after Brand, too.

    I bet they puss out and just settle on Nesterovic, which would be a clossal mistake.

    Of course for a goof like you who thought all this cap clearing was just supposed to bring in a decent free agent or two, you're probably thrilled at the prospect of Nesterovic rather than going after Brand.



  3. #53
    picnroll
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    If they have the money and Brand goes for it then we have do it. Not much to lose. Odom will likely wait. Question is will he wait for us or Miami though? Reilly is supposed to lust for Odom and Odom's a nightlife kind of guy. Who'll have more money? Miami I think.

  4. #54
    gospurs21
    Guest
    more ifs and buts from Ghost. Let it go, the past cannot be changed, no matter how you want to spin it. Look to the future, it is just as bright.

    question: Is the glass half empty or half full?

    GW: what glass, if it haddened rained 5 years ago there would be no water in the GD glass. If the glass maker didn't ship the glass to the store and someone didn't buy the glass there would be no water in it....

    I could go on but I think everyone gets the picture. How can anyone be so angry after a championship but I guess GW is just that way. GW, all your anger is just a waste of energy.

    Go after Brand AND Rasho

    Go Spurs...

  5. #55
    timvp
    Guest
    I bet they puss out and just settle on Nesterovic
    Why would they do that? What are they going to do with the extra $10M+?

    Pop specifically got Rasho to sign for less for a reason.

    --Kori

  6. #56
    Marcus Bryant
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    What I find curious is that there are reports of the Spurs offering a $22 million signing bonus to Brand and Ghost thinks that is a "puss out." WTF?

  7. #57
    Ghost Writer
    Guest
    I hope you're right. There certainly seems to be enough money left over to entice Brand or at least Odom.



  8. #58
    Aggie Hoopsfan
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    Give it a rest Ghost, they wouldn't have ed around with all the clauses for Brand's deal if they weren't serious on tendering him an offer.

    I look at it as more like whereas the LA Times was talking about how we'd back out because we needed to find a replacement for DRob, now that we have "insurance" in Rasho, let's play some Texas Hold 'Em and call Sterling's bluff.

    If he matches, turn around and offer Odom, and let's see how far he's willing to go.

    IMO the Spurs have all the leverage, we are more attractive, we are willing to s out a truly max deal, and we can afford to wait now we have Rasho in our back pocket.

    AHF

  9. #59
    T Park Num 9
    Guest
    Rash+Brand
    Rasho+ Odom
    Rasho + Arenas
    Rasho + any great wing or post up player = VERY successfull summer.

  10. #60
    MannyIsGod
    Guest
    Even if we do wait the 15 day period at this point, we have our replacement for drob, and if sterling matches at that point, we have the opportunity to trade the capspace away.

    Options galore and they are playing their cards just right.

    Ghost

  11. #61
    Ghost Writer
    Guest
    Slow your role, Aggie. Don't come in here trying to tell me about strategy that I myself argued for last week at this time.

    I hope the Spurs won't stop here. They shouldn't. Convincing Brand to sign an offer sheet is the hard part. Offering the deal is the logical thing to do.



  12. #62
    Marcus Bryant
    Guest
    So the Spurs ensure they get a decent role player to start and they can still make a run at Brand or Odom.

    There are worse things.

  13. #63
    KoriEllis
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    Ghost, they had an offer on the table with Brand yesterday. I don't think they are going to back off just because they got Rasho. I think they'll push harder now. Nothing to lose, everything to gain.

  14. #64
    o0drpill0o
    Guest
    Why not offer the front loaded deal, then give Sterling his options:

    1. Match the front loaded offer and watch your books get seriously f'd up this year.

    2. Don't match and let Brand walk for nothing.

    3. Watch Brand sign the one year sheet and then walk away for nothing or for whatever you can get in the regular season for him.

    4. Agree to a sign and trade with us right now, wherein we will give you Speedy Claxton (if Clax agrees), the rights to Scola (don't need him anymore, too much front court depth already), draft picks, and cash (if this is possible).

    That looks like a deal Sterling would be willing to take. He gets a good starting quality point guard at a decent rate, the rights to a potentially very good Argentinian power forward, those draft picks he loves so well, and most importantly he doesn't have to pay Brand 20 million this year.

    This is the Spurs' last chance IMO. Odom is unlikely to come here. Brand wants to play here; I recall a while back he said he wants to play alongside a dominant big man and the Clippers will not even have anything close to that if Kandi leaves. I think if Sterling does not agree to the sign and trade option, and doesn't resign Kandi, Brand will walk sext summer. I think Sterling knows it too. The increased offer he put out there is just a feeble attempt to scare the Spurs away. Pop is too smart to fall for it.

  15. #65
    Marcus Bryant
    Guest
    If the Clippers matched an offer sheet with a signing bonus of $22 million then Sterling would have to come up with actual cash money of $50 million next year! No way he does that.

  16. #66
    o0drpill0o
    Guest
    How obscenely rich is Sterling? Is he Mark Cuban rich or Peter Holt rich?

  17. #67
    Ghost Writer
    Guest
    Seriously, I am sorry for spiralling into negativity, folks. Marcus Bryant brings out the worst in me!

    But I am still skeptical that Faulk/Brand will sign the Spurs offer sheet.

    We need a lot of things to go right. We need:

    • The Spurs to continue to offer that creative contract to Brand
    • Brand to sign that offer sheet
    • Sterling not to match


    With Maggette, Miller and Olowokandi leaving, who else will Sterling sign to make minimum payroll? Would Odom be enough?

    I'm concerned.


    P.S.

    Nesterovic does indeed take the pressure off of maintaining our championship rotation, but we'll need Brand or Odom to keep up with the Lakers now.



  18. #68
    Marcus Bryant
    Guest
    drpill,

    Sterling has money but has an aversion to blowing it on his basketball team. I'm sure if the Clippers front office comes to him and tells him that he has to match a $79 million offer to Brand and that he has to come up with $30 million of that in the first year he will cut the cord.

  19. #69
    o0drpill0o
    Guest
    Well, what do we have to lose, Ghost? If the Clippers match this crazy Brand deal, it would at least make it more likely that Sterling would be willing to let Odom go. He might end up in Miami, but that could happen anyway. At least in Brand we are going after a charcter guy who wants to be here. You want a superstar, I think this is our only real shot. Can't accuse Pop of not trying...

  20. #70
    o0drpill0o
    Guest
    I'm sure if the Clippers front office comes to him and tells him that he has to match a $79 million offer to Brand and that he has to come up with $30 million of that in the first year he will cut the cord.

    I totally agree MB. Especially if he wants to also retain Odom, who will command big dollars. This is getting me pretty excited. I never in my wildest dreams imagined we might be adding Brand this summer. WAY better than Kidd IMO. But we'll see, as nothing is set in stone yet.

  21. #71
    T Park Num 9
    Guest
    Weirder things have happened Marcus.

    Well see.

    I think Brand wants out, but Im afraid of Sterling sucking it up and signing it.

  22. #72
    Ghost Writer
    Guest
    You have to convince Brand to accept our offer first.



  23. #73
    T Park Num 9
    Guest
    Ghost,


    U dont think the Spurs might have worked with Falk on this contract first maybe do ya???

    nahhhh, pop isnt smart enough for that....

  24. #74
    CosmicCowboyXXX
    Guest
    Sterling has money but has an aversion to blowing it on his basketball team. I'm sure if the Clippers front office comes to him and tells him that he has to match a $79 million offer to Brand and that he has to come up with $30 million of that in the first year he will cut the cord.
    don't be so sure...

    the Clips franchise is profitable and has steady and predictable revenue.

    the front loaded deal just means he pays less later.

    with interest rates at historic lows Sterling could finance that upfront kicker with a phone call.

  25. #75
    TwoHandJam
    Guest
    Sterling would be a fool to sign it if Brand really doesn't want to play for him. It really all comes down to how badly Brand wants to leave. No use signing a guy to a long term deal and forcing him to stay when he's unhappy. Bad situation for both parties.

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