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    No.

    I do not believe they exist.

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    No.

    I do not believe they exist.
    That must mean they don't. I mean, surely only what you believe exsists, exsists.

    This isn't the tooth fair, its records of what the person occupying the most important post of our government does. They most certainly exsist. If you want to see them, look for them.

    If not? Then STFU or make a point already.

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    You missed the point then already. If there are not verifiable facts of how much each president has worked, then jim is talking out of his ass.

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    2 paths
    "that it is"
    and
    "that it is not"

    surely we can dismiss the second path because we can never know "that it is not" and if we did, then it would be "that it is"

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    That must mean they don't. I mean, surely only what you believe exsists, exsists.

    This isn't the tooth fair, its records of what the person occupying the most important post of our government does. They most certainly exsist. If you want to see them, look for them.

    If not? Then STFU or make a point already.

    Are you drunk Manny or did TPark steal your login info?

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    Until now, probably no modern president was a more famous vacationer than Ronald Reagan, who loved spending time at his ranch in Santa Barbara, Calif. According to an Associated Press count, Reagan spent all or part of 335 days in Santa Barbara over his eight-year presidency -- a total that Bush will surpass this month in Crawford with 3 1/2 years left in his second term.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...201703_pf.html

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    Hey, Bush ran for the job voluntarily - he fought for it - he knew what the job entailed - he should have known how stressful it would be (if for no other reason than the fact that he watched his father go through it) - so him taking so many extra vacation days doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. You act like someone forced him into it.

    jekka is fun to quote

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    No, he took the job of his own volition, he isn't "volunteering" - he's working on $400,000 tax payer dollars a year (which was $200,000 until the day Bush Jr stepped into office).


    Well, we're in the middle of a war, I'd say EXTRA days are a problem.


    Not all conservatives are evil, only the ones that can't seem to use their brains. And to be fair, that goes for "liberals" as well.

    Jekka's like a white/female Hitch

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    now for Thomas Jefferson and James Polk's vacation days.

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    and does them being on a ranch mean they are not working

    copies of time cards are needed

    what if they are always at the white house but not working?

    how do we account for that


    i need video

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    Assuming you meant "which" - God forbid I use the same root word two different ways - holy ! If you worked on your contextual comprehension maybe you wouldn't have asked - unless ... you were trying to make me look in the wrong by pointing out valid word choices? Smooth.

    You get so flustered when people disagree with you - calm down and accept that not everyone will agree with your conclusions and disparity is not necessarily an attack. You're not going to convert us all - especially not with insults, profanity, and petty technicalities.


    LOL


    Jekka should get a Spur for this thread

    "Jekka earned this spur for making TPark seem re ed"

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    We are born to inquire after truth; it belongs to a greater power to possess it. It is not, as Democritus said, hid in the bottom of the depths, but rather elevated to an infinite height in the divine knowledge.

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    I'm bored tonight, but not bored enough to do all of the research for you. Like I said, use google. He's the one calling it a vacation (Bush), not me. I know what the president does, but its a vacation none the less.

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    LOL


    Jekka should get a Spur for this thread

    "Jekka earned this spur for making TPark seem re ed"
    If they gave out Spurs for making TPark look stupid, there would be no room for anything else.

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    God damn super-patriot, you do this in every thread. You make it really hard to defend another Republican. Calmly say "So what?" Then point out the type of facilities Bush has at his ranch. He's not really "On vacation" in this day and age with so many means of technology and communication.

    But the fact is that yes, technically he has taken more "vacation" days than any other president. But it's not like he leaves the office, shuts off his cell phone and catches a plane to Cancun. Besides, had he cut his vacation short the moment it was realized that Katrina would hit New Orleans, the left would have jumped on him for trying to play on people's emotions, or something predictable like that.

    The Astrodome is heaven compared to living in sitting water with no bathrooms, AC, clean water, or a dry place to rest your head.

    A Foofida classic

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    now for Thomas Jefferson and James Polk's vacation days.
    Jefferson went to Monticello to bang Sally Hemings, but in all fairness his estate was about 100 miles away from DC.

    I don't know about James Polk. Sorry if that makes me less of an American.

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    OMG i just read this thread (backwards first, then forwards)

    this has to be a ing classic


    Every time i read a TPark post i think of that scene in Team America World Police when Michael Moore is holding 2 hot dogs and swaying his hips as he's about to blow up HQ while making crude noises

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    @ Moore and the hot dogs.

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    rofl rofl

    man what did i do before spurstalk

    you guys are in hilarious

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    Jefferson went to Monticello to bang Sally Hemings, but in all fairness his estate was about 100 miles away from DC.

    I don't know about James Polk. Sorry if that makes me less of an American.
    I would now like to see some pics of Sally Hemings

    she must have been smokin

    to go 100 miles on a horse to a girl in those days is quite the journey

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    rofl rofl

    man what did i do before spurstalk

    you guys are in hilarious
    You ing beat me too it! I had just opened google!

    Oh I nearly spit my Coke over the desk.

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    lol my internet is running at tortoise speed
    i just typed in "team america michael moore" and that was the only result

    i was hoping for one when he was in HQ but this had to suffice

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    I would now like to see some pics of Sally Hemings

    she must have been smokin

    to go 100 miles on a horse to a girl in those days is quite the journey
    The way there shouldn't have been so bad considering he knew how he was going to rid himself of his saddle-rub erection.

    I bet the ride home was awfully rough. Ouch.

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    Verifable facts of vacation days of every President in history. I want them.

    Here we are, off topic againks to TPark.
    Here is the article that I read on this in the Post, it was also reported on CNN Sunday morning. If you would read a newspaper or watch the news every now and again...then you would know these things.


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    Vacationing Bush Poised to Set a Record
    With Long Sojourn at Ranch, President on His Way to Surpassing Reagan's Total

    By Jim VandeHei and Peter Baker
    Washington Post Staff Writers
    Wednesday, August 3, 2005; A04



    WACO, Tex., Aug. 2 -- President Bush is getting the kind of break most Americans can only dream of -- nearly five weeks away from the office, loaded with vacation time.

    The president departed Tuesday for his longest stretch yet away from the White House, arriving at his Crawford ranch in the evening for a stretch of clearing brush, visiting with family and friends, and tending to some outside-the-Beltway politics. By historical standards, it is the longest presidential retreat in at least 36 years.

    The August getaway is Bush's 49th trip to his cherished ranch since taking office and the 319th day that Bush has spent, entirely or partially, in Crawford -- nearly 20 percent of his presidency to date, according to Mark Knoller, a CBS Radio reporter known for keeping better records of the president's travel than the White House itself. Weekends and holidays at Camp David or at his parents' compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, bump up the proportion of Bush's time away from Washington even further.

    Bush's long vacations are more than a curiosity: They play into diametrically opposite arguments about this leadership style. To critics and late-night comics, they symbolize a lackadaisical approach to the world's most important day job, an impression bolstered by Bush's two-hour midday exercise sessions and his disinclination to work nights or weekends. The more vociferous among Bush's foes have noted that he spent a month at the ranch shortly before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, when critics assert he should have been more attentive to warning signs.

    To Bush and his advisers, that criticism fundamentally misunderstands his Texas sojourns. Those who think he does not remain in command, aides say, do not understand the modern presidency or Bush's own work habits. At the ranch, White House officials say, Bush continues to receive daily national security briefings, sign do ents, hold teleconferences with aides and military commanders, and even meet with foreign leaders. And from the president's point of view, the long Texas stints are the best way to clear his mind and reconnect with everyday America.

    "I'm looking forward to getting down there and just kind of settling in," Bush told reporters from Texas newspapers during a roundtable interview at the White House on Monday. "I'll be doing a lot of work. On the other hand, I'll also be kind of making sure my Texas roots run deep."

    "Spending time outside of Washington always gives the president a fresh perspective of what's on the minds of the American people," White House press secretary Scott McClellan told reporters Friday. "It's a time, really, for him to shed the coat and tie and meet with folks out in the heartland and hear what's on their minds."

    Just as Bush has made these August trips a regular feature of his presidency, so, too, have Democrats made a tradition of needling him about them. This year, opposition politicians are tying his departure from Washington to the CIA leak case that has swept up his top adviser, Karl Rove.

    "The White House stonewalling operation is moving to Crawford for the dog days of summer, but they can't hide from the legitimate questions dogging the president and his refusal to keep his promise and fire Karl Rove," said Josh Earnest, a spokesman for the Democratic National Committee.

    Presidents have often sought refuge from the pressures of Washington and from life in the White House, which Harry S. Truman called the crown jewel of the American prison system. Richard M. Nixon favored Key Biscayne, Fla. Bush's father preferred Maine. Bill Clinton, lacking a home of his own, borrowed a house on Martha's Vineyard, except for two years when political adviser Morris nudged him into going to Jackson, Wyo., before his reelection because it polled better.

    Until now, probably no modern president was a more famous vacationer than Ronald Reagan, who loved spending time at his ranch in Santa Barbara, Calif. According to an Associated Press count, Reagan spent all or part of 335 days in Santa Barbara over his eight-year presidency -- a total that Bush will surpass this month in Crawford with 3 1/2 years left in his second term.

    "The Oval Office is wherever the president of the United States is," said Kenneth M. Duberstein, who was Reagan's last White House chief of staff. "With the communications being what they are, the president can communicate instantly with whomever he wants anywhere in the world."

    Bush will not return to the White House until after Labor Day, but his staff has peppered his schedule with events to dispel any impression that he is not on duty. He will visit at least seven states, mostly with quick day trips, including New Mexico, where he plans to sign energy legislation into law. He gets off to a quick start this week, with a speech Wednesday in nearby Grapevine, Tex., then he plays host to President Alvaro Uribe of Colombia at the ranch Thursday. His schedule is clear Friday through Sunday.

    At some point, Bush told reporters Monday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld will visit for consultations. "I have a busy couple of weeks down there," Bush said.

    But he will make time for fun, or at least his idea of it. Bush rarely takes the type of vacation one would consider exotic -- or, to some, even appealing. His notion of relaxation is chopping cedar on his ranch or mountain biking through rough terrain, all in 100-degree-plus temperatures in dusty Texas where crickets are known to roast on the summer pavement. He seems to relish the idea of exposing aides and reporters to the hothouse environment.
    "I just checked in with the house -- it's about 100 degrees," he told reporters Monday. "But no matter how hot it gets, I enjoy spending time in Texas."

    Baker reported from Washington.


    © 2005 The Washington Post Company



    "Spending time outside of Washington always gives the president a fresh perspective of what's on the minds of the American people," White House press secretary Scott McClellan told reporters Friday. "It's a time, really, for him to shed the coat and tie and meet with folks out in the heartland and hear what's on their minds."
    Yes, he is really out and about with the masses. The masses are locked out and have no chance to talk to him. He is morte isolated at the ranch than he is in Washington. It might just be me, but when the country is not doing well, I just feel a whole lot better knowing that the man in charge is in the Oval Office a few steps away from Congress, who are in this with him.

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    where are my facts on every president, i need to compare, james polk, thomas jefferson

    cmon son

    i need time cards as well, and video

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